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13 Jun 2013, 10:05 am

^^^^This is why I just say random things on these threads, it gets more confusing if I don't. What if I had a tigerwolf for a pet, and it thought I was alpha, but thought it could boss around my friends, but then I didn't have to put him in his place because my friends were other wolfs because I'm a wolf man not a cat lady????? Try to figure that one out. Geese it isn't that complicated calm down.


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13 Jun 2013, 10:08 am

It's not that confusing. Just need to have a more organized mind and see things from multiple perspectives.



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13 Jun 2013, 10:13 am

MCalavera wrote:
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There's a difference between the nice guy who is just being nice to get sex (the creep) and the nice guy who is polite and actually cares about the other's feelings. There is an art to it, women like nice guys, just not creeps.


You're oversimplifying things, and I'm seeing this way too often here with regards to this subject. Whether one is a creep or not depends on how you perceive that person, regardless of what he's after.

And what about being nice in order to have a romantic involvement with the girl? What about someone who's nice in general being even nicer to a girl he wants to have a relationship with? Is this guy not a genuinely nice guy because he acted nicer than usual with a girl even though he is normally nice with everyone else? What about the nice guy who does care about your feelings but wants to have a romantic connection and aims to achieve it by being overly nice only to end up failing?

What point is there in assuring a genuinely nice guy that he's not the typical condemned Nice Guy even though he still fails at love and relationships? So this nice guy A is not considered the condemned Nice Guy by you or some other girl, but what does this serve if both he and nice guy B who is considered the condemned Nice Guy by you fail at romance or sex or whatever goal they are wishing to achieve anyway?


My point is that there is a difference in genuinely caring about the other person's feelings & being nice just to get laid. Usually women can sense this hence you hear " the nice guy always finishes last" but the genuine guy that pays attention to what the girl likes doesn't finish last.

Yeah, if one is perceived as a creep by the desired than good luck finding a relationship.

If you want to get into money, looks, etc. than that's on you but this thread was about being nice.



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13 Jun 2013, 10:16 am

lost561 wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
lost561 wrote:
There's a difference between the nice guy who is just being nice to get sex (the creep) and the nice guy who is polite and actually cares about the other's feelings. There is an art to it, women like nice guys, just not creeps.


You're oversimplifying things, and I'm seeing this way too often here with regards to this subject. Whether one is a creep or not depends on how you perceive that person, regardless of what he's after.

And what about being nice in order to have a romantic involvement with the girl? What about someone who's nice in general being even nicer to a girl he wants to have a relationship with? Is this guy not a genuinely nice guy because he acted nicer than usual with a girl even though he is normally nice with everyone else? What about the nice guy who does care about your feelings but wants to have a romantic connection and aims to achieve it by being overly nice only to end up failing?

What point is there in assuring a genuinely nice guy that he's not the typical condemned Nice Guy even though he still fails at love and relationships? So this nice guy A is not considered the condemned Nice Guy by you or some other girl, but what does this serve if both he and nice guy B who is considered the condemned Nice Guy by you fail at romance or sex or whatever goal they are wishing to achieve anyway?


My point is that there is a difference in genuinely caring about the other person's feelings & being nice just to get laid. Usually women can sense this hence you hear " the nice guy always finishes last" but the genuine guy that pays attention to what the girl likes doesn't finish last.

Yeah, if one is perceived as a creep by the desired than good luck finding a relationship.


You didn't really think much about the questions I posed.

What does this matter if they still have this one thing in common, which is that they both fail anyway even though one is genuinely nice?

Many guys act nice to have sex with girls and succeed, so they must not be creeps. Why then is this the defining issue when some succeed anyway in being nice to get what they want?

What I'm trying to say is it's not as simple as 1 + 1 = 2



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13 Jun 2013, 10:24 am

MCalavera wrote:
lost561 wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
lost561 wrote:
There's a difference between the nice guy who is just being nice to get sex (the creep) and the nice guy who is polite and actually cares about the other's feelings. There is an art to it, women like nice guys, just not creeps.


You're oversimplifying things, and I'm seeing this way too often here with regards to this subject. Whether one is a creep or not depends on how you perceive that person, regardless of what he's after.

And what about being nice in order to have a romantic involvement with the girl? What about someone who's nice in general being even nicer to a girl he wants to have a relationship with? Is this guy not a genuinely nice guy because he acted nicer than usual with a girl even though he is normally nice with everyone else? What about the nice guy who does care about your feelings but wants to have a romantic connection and aims to achieve it by being overly nice only to end up failing?

What point is there in assuring a genuinely nice guy that he's not the typical condemned Nice Guy even though he still fails at love and relationships? So this nice guy A is not considered the condemned Nice Guy by you or some other girl, but what does this serve if both he and nice guy B who is considered the condemned Nice Guy by you fail at romance or sex or whatever goal they are wishing to achieve anyway?


My point is that there is a difference in genuinely caring about the other person's feelings & being nice just to get laid. Usually women can sense this hence you hear " the nice guy always finishes last" but the genuine guy that pays attention to what the girl likes doesn't finish last.

Yeah, if one is perceived as a creep by the desired than good luck finding a relationship.


You didn't really think much about the questions I posed.

What does this matter if they still have this one thing in common, which is that they both fail anyway even though one is genuinely nice?

Many guys act nice to have sex with girls and succeed, so they must not be creeps. Why then is this the defining issue when some succeed anyway in being nice to get what they want?

What I'm trying to say is it's not as simple as 1 + 1 = 2


I agree that it's not as simple as 1 + 1 = 2

It's really hard to explain this stuff about dating on an Internet thread. I'm just giving the best advice I can.



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13 Jun 2013, 10:33 am

Your intentions may be good, and now that I reread my posts, they do seem a bit too passionate with the severe questioning, but that aside:

You have a definition for a subset of guys in a whole set of guys who consider themselves nice guy but fail at love. The subset is a set of fake nice guys who only act nice to get sex. Ok, that's good. What next? How does what you said help the genuinely nice guys to be successful?



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13 Jun 2013, 10:45 am

MCalavera wrote:
Your intentions may be good, and now that I reread my posts, they do seem a bit too passionate with the severe questioning, but that aside:

You have a definition for a subset of guys in a whole set of guys who consider themselves nice guy but fail at love. The subset is a set of fake nice guys who only act nice to get sex. Ok, that's good. What next? How does what you said help the genuinely nice guys to be successful?


Just being genuine in itself will help them. I can't solve everybody's problems, I mean I'd be down to give fashion advice and stuff like that but everybody has to make it work for themselves. All I can say is that I needed medication before I could be confident and relaxed with myself which are the other personality traits women like.

These things will increase your chances:
-having your own place
-having your own car
-being healthy & in shape
-being fashion savvy & being clean cut
-having a group of friends to socialize with
-being passionate about something
-having money

If you have all those things than you just need to focus on getting the right person. A lot of people try to date someone outside of their league and get rejected.



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13 Jun 2013, 10:49 am

MCalavera wrote:
It's not that confusing. Just need to have a more organized mind and see things from multiple perspectives.

Trust me I know what it feels like, not just do I see it from their point of view. So knowing it this way I could relate to others most people can't I guess. Anyways, where is the thread going now, I don't know what you guys are talking about.


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13 Jun 2013, 11:02 am

lost561 wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Your intentions may be good, and now that I reread my posts, they do seem a bit too passionate with the severe questioning, but that aside:

You have a definition for a subset of guys in a whole set of guys who consider themselves nice guy but fail at love. The subset is a set of fake nice guys who only act nice to get sex. Ok, that's good. What next? How does what you said help the genuinely nice guys to be successful?


Just being genuine in itself will help them. I can't solve everybody's problems, I mean I'd be down to give fashion advice and stuff like that but everybody has to make it work for themselves. All I can say is that I needed medication before I could be confident and relaxed with myself which are the other personality traits women like.

These things will increase your chances:
-having your own place
-having your own car
-being healthy & in shape
-being fashion savvy & being clean cut
-having a group of friends to socialize with
-being passionate about something
-having money

If you have all those things than you just need to focus on getting the right person. A lot of people try to date someone outside of their league and get rejected.


I must have destroyed those expectations like knife through butter then. I got a lady too fast, and she was nowhere near where I lived, so we had to break up. I actually felt quite guilty for making her fall in love so fast. And I would never put her in a league, she was sweet, and I hope she finds what she is looking for in someone else.


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13 Jun 2013, 11:46 am

lost561 wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Your intentions may be good, and now that I reread my posts, they do seem a bit too passionate with the severe questioning, but that aside:

You have a definition for a subset of guys in a whole set of guys who consider themselves nice guy but fail at love. The subset is a set of fake nice guys who only act nice to get sex. Ok, that's good. What next? How does what you said help the genuinely nice guys to be successful?


Just being genuine in itself will help them. I can't solve everybody's problems, I mean I'd be down to give fashion advice and stuff like that but everybody has to make it work for themselves. All I can say is that I needed medication before I could be confident and relaxed with myself which are the other personality traits women like.

These things will increase your chances:
-having your own place
-having your own car
-being healthy & in shape
-being fashion savvy & being clean cut
-having a group of friends to socialize with
-being passionate about something
-having money

If you have all those things than you just need to focus on getting the right person. A lot of people try to date someone outside of their league and get rejected.

To contribute to your universal stereotype list: tanned, muscular, tall, shaven, broad shouldered and huge cocked.



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13 Jun 2013, 12:24 pm

Uprising wrote:
lost561 wrote:
MCalavera wrote:
Your intentions may be good, and now that I reread my posts, they do seem a bit too passionate with the severe questioning, but that aside:

You have a definition for a subset of guys in a whole set of guys who consider themselves nice guy but fail at love. The subset is a set of fake nice guys who only act nice to get sex. Ok, that's good. What next? How does what you said help the genuinely nice guys to be successful?


Just being genuine in itself will help them. I can't solve everybody's problems, I mean I'd be down to give fashion advice and stuff like that but everybody has to make it work for themselves. All I can say is that I needed medication before I could be confident and relaxed with myself which are the other personality traits women like.

These things will increase your chances:
-having your own place
-having your own car
-being healthy & in shape
-being fashion savvy & being clean cut
-having a group of friends to socialize with
-being passionate about something
-having money

If you have all those things than you just need to focus on getting the right person. A lot of people try to date someone outside of their league and get rejected.

To contribute to your universal stereotype list: tanned, muscular, tall, shaven, broad shouldered and huge cocked.


And has to party and like the same music as everyone else....

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-jOEAufDQ4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swmuqGWgZCc[/youtube]

No we aren't.... (just kidding, I know not all ladies think this, except maybe meems)


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14 Jun 2013, 1:25 am

m8 do u evr do anything othr than post on this forum aboutt loking 4 girls? Justt go outt and look m8! their out they're