NT gf wants to party, I don't

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Tori0326
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02 Jul 2013, 5:23 pm

Oh, I told her that it was not responsible parenting to have a child out that late. (Despite the fact he was sleeping on their couch.)
Problem was she was intoxicated and nothing I said meant anything to her at the time.

My son is 5. I would not leave him home alone to go down the street let alone half hour to where we were that night. I'd have to go get her the next morning or she'd have to catch a ride. The other thing that threw me off is that this wasn't a "party", we were only "stopping by". I really didn't want to be there any longer but I thought that maybe I was being too anal and therefore it was my issue. I mean a lot of people do go out and drink. I'm probably in the minority to think it's not all that much fun. I'm trying to be somewhat flexible to NTs, after all there's more of them than us out there.



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02 Jul 2013, 5:28 pm

There's no point trying to fix anything when one or both of you are in an altered state.



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02 Jul 2013, 6:01 pm

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Oh, I told her that it was not responsible parenting to have a child out that late. (Despite the fact he was sleeping on their couch.)
Problem was she was intoxicated and nothing I said meant anything to her at the time.

My son is 5. I would not leave him home alone to go down the street let alone half hour to where we were that night. I'd have to go get her the next morning or she'd have to catch a ride. The other thing that threw me off is that this wasn't a "party", we were only "stopping by". I really didn't want to be there any longer but I thought that maybe I was being too anal and therefore it was my issue. I mean a lot of people do go out and drink. I'm probably in the minority to think it's not all that much fun. I'm trying to be somewhat flexible to NTs, after all there's more of them than us out there.

Iven if it was just stopping by for a cup of coffee and a a cookie, you are the responsible (as in the responsibility is on your shoulders) parent and when you think your child has had enough, and most definately when you have had enough, you can and should leave. Your job is to be a parent first of all, and a partner second. Like I suggested before, talk to your gf when this latest incident has died down, when you are both sober and not arguing about other stuff. Have an adult conversation.



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02 Jul 2013, 6:03 pm

I believe you were being too flexible on this occasion and it was due in part that you didn't take the necessary stand against your gf's friend when it came to your kid. The dogs are secondary in this scenario. Maybe the gf can drink, but you take the kid home. It's your choice after all, but stuck in that scenario I believe I would have taken my kid home.

As for the drinking, you will have to find a way to communicate how her attitude when drinking has made you feel and the way she acts the next day and how it makes you feel if you haven't already.



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02 Jul 2013, 9:32 pm

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Yesterday afternoon, my NT partner and I took my son to a kid birthday party at Chuck E. Cheese. I was overwhelmed by all the people and noise, and ready to go home when it was over. As we’re walking out to the car, my partner says she’d like us to stop by her cousin’s house on the way home to visit a bit. I’m not thrilled but agree to the detour.

They’re all having a few beers and talking. The kids are playing. I was social and ok for the first couple hours. At 9pm I remind my partner that we have to get home to let the dogs out and feed them, and get my son to bed. She says ok we’ll go soon. 10pm comes and goes. I’m getting annoyed. The cousin asks me if I don’t like her or something. I tell her I do but our dogs haven’t been out for 8 hours and they need to be fed. She then says “So, you like your dogs more than me?” I didn’t know how to respond to that.


It's possible the cousin's intent was to lighten your obviously annoyed mood, but whether it was that or she was serious, she was being inconsiderate. A decent person would have shown some concern for the dogs that depend on you.

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At 11pm I’m pissed. I ask my partner to step outside and I try to convince her we need to go. By the time we get home it’s going to be 10 hours since we left. The dogs still haven’t been fed, they’ve probably relieved themselves on the floor by now. She says she just wants one more beer. We go back in and she has at least 3 more. I lost count because I went in to sit with my sleeping son on their couch. We didn’t leave until after 1am.


Your son is your get out of jail free card. When it's his bedtime, you go, no questions. Anyone who objects is a selfish, irresponsible jerk.

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I was livid when we got in the car and start spouting off a list of grievances. She said she never gets to go out anymore and I should lighten up. We got in a big argument and she decided to sleep on the couch last night. This morning she’s all happy like nothing happened last night. Is it an NT thing to have, or pretend to have, amnesia the next day?


She's in a relationship with a parent. It sounds like she's not ready for the limits and responsibilities that entails.

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I don’t know if she’s right and I need to cut her some slack, I’m just being too Aspie, or if I was really justified to be angry by NT standards too.


She's wrong, you're right, by any standard.

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I guess if I was an NT I’d just drink myself silly too and we’d all wake up on somebody’s floor the next morning.


That's not an NT thing, that's irresponsible and immature.

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She’s put me in this position a couple times before but not this late. About 6 months ago we went to a party and I left at 10pm and she came home later with friends who live a couple streets over.

She wants people to come to our house next weekend for a barbeque. I’m not sure what to do.


Talk to her about the ground rules now. Who's coming, for how long, what to do with anyone who has too much to drink - call them a cab, let them sleep on the sofa (ideally no one would put their host in this position) - and anything else you think is important. Your need for an orderly life is just as important as her desire to have fun. More important, actually, because you have others depending on you.



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02 Jul 2013, 10:18 pm

thewhitrbbit wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
Its an NT thing they always want to party and get drunk and do stupid stuff all the time and use it as an excuse to be horny and hook up!


That is such an over broad generalization it's almost sad.

And the OP isn't even talking about hooking up. They are in a relationship.
Sorry thats what it seems to me when it comes to NTs 9 out 10 of NTs I have hung out seem to be like that!


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02 Jul 2013, 10:54 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
Its an NT thing they always want to party and get drunk and do stupid stuff all the time and use it as an excuse to be horny and hook up!


That's interesting I used to do just that and I am an "aspie" not an NT. Between the ages of 17 and 21 all I wanted to do was party and I did not care about anything, myself or anyone else. I was a nihilist and still am kind of. Although drinking was the only time I had serious run ins with the police and a DUI accident where I could of died. Got sober when I was 22 and now am 33 and no alcohol or drugs has passed my lips.



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05 Jul 2013, 10:43 am

While I agree with most of the advice on here, I feel like you need to be willing to compromise on w few things if you both want to be happy. How often does your partner go out? Is there a reason she can't go out on her own occasionally?



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11 Jul 2013, 3:03 pm

Geekonychus wrote:
While I agree with most of the advice on here, I feel like you need to be willing to compromise on w few things if you both want to be happy. How often does your partner go out? Is there a reason she can't go out on her own occasionally?


Her group of friends she used to hang with before we got together have parties at least monthly it sounds. I've told her she's welcome to go. I've gone to two parties with her and left early from one. She went to one by herself but returned early saying she wasn't really having fun without me. I think I'd be more willing to suck it up and go with her to these parties if she didn't insist on taking my son. Other families take their kids too but they're older so he really doesn't have anyone to play with. I just don't like my son being in an adult party atmosphere to begin with. Sure it starts off like a BBQ but then it starts getting late and people are clearly intoxicated.

I think another aspect of this beyond Aspie/NT is that I'm originally a yankee and she's a southerner. I'm used to a more formal, calm atmosphere and she doesn't think people drinking and brawling on the lawn is unusual or necessarily a bad thing. Almost everyone I've met since I've moved to the south has been arrested at some point for a DUI or an assault or something. The most trouble I've ever gotten into was a couple parking tickets, and one was because I was lost and couldn't find my way back to my car.