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^ I don't go for every girl I happen to see, MXH.

And that's a good thing.
Something I've noticed about desperation; it's a good motivator. Desperate people go to desperate lengths to get what they want. I wouldn't advise to become desperate, but to find good reasons that will motivate you to pursue women, it's just too easy to give up if you don't have them.

MXH, I had a funny little theory the other day at Six Flags, perhaps dating is like getting into a rollercoaster. It is scary when you see all those loops and the high speed, but once you're in and the restraints are there and the car starts moving it's just too late, and you have no choice but to take the ride . Then it ends up actually being fun, and next time the dread will be less, and next time you might even look forward to it! I am strongly considering to commit to having more dates next semester. Once I say hi, there is no backing off, just going ahead and seeing what happens

Ok, now imagine that i don't know any women, or anyone for a fact. Now write that answer with that piece of knowledge.

Ember, a major factor why a lot of guys struggle here is their lack of social life, this might be an AS-related reason but it does have a huge impact.

Okay... Practice with Boo?

Seriously though...
Do you have any online friends/aquaintances? I had a friend who used to make 'virtual dates' with people. He took to one person to a space bar in the future, another time a chinese tea salon, there are loads of stuff, only the imagination sets the limits.

You could always try to make new friends. Maybe joining a book club or a chess club or whatever you enjoy doing.

There are always dating sites, I don't know how well that works.

Trying to get a date with a random stranger is probably not the easiest feat.

I don't think having a pretend date with someone who will obviously play along will get anyone ready for the real deal.

And its not about the actual date itself, that's the easy part. The hard part is getting to a date

Well my hobby is working on my car by myself, Idk if there's a club for that.

Dating sites again bring back the same problem i have irl to the nitpicking world of online. Where gender rules are even more profound.

^^ THIS THIS, BASTARD THIS! ^^

And I can't think of a way to create one either. Or at least to create one in something I am interested in.

Well, the point was to practice asking people out, not the actual pretend date. But the pretend date might be fun anyways, and you know what? Getting to know others better is rarely a bad thing.

I don't know anything about cars, but I'm sure there are social venues for people who like tinkering with them.

What else can I suggest?

Take up a second hobby?

I saw this silly movie where a guy got a puppy for the sole purpose of attracting ladies to come over and talk to him.

^ a lapdog getting a lapdog.

I think that for most people, it's a fear of rejection. rejection shouldn't be a fear, it should be an inevitability.

If you are serious about wanting to get into the dating scene, the first step is to start asking people out. Do this and expect to get rejected. That way, when it happens, it wont be such a let down. And if they don't reject you, then all the better.

The more you do this, the easier it will get.

I get that. I truly do. I am trying to figure out ways of getting a social life. I have a total of three friends, and I do social things with them, virtually never. Unless you count getting a burger on the way home from work once every other week or so a social event. Quite honestly, hanging out in this forum is more socializing than I do IRL.

I know that before I started working full time, I had more time and energy to try to find social venues that worked for me. It had nothing to do with dating or finding a relationship, just to connect to other people. And sometimes, in those rare connections, there will be an opportunity for dating, and relationships. That is my experience, not a universal truth, so take it for what it's worth.

And I really wish I could do something more or better to help you guys, but sadly all I can do is offer up ideas and hope that maybe some of them would work, or maybe spark other ideas that will.

You're new here, I can tell.

I got past the first step, I've dated like dozen of girls since since 2012 - half of them didn't go past first date, the other half... well, long stories.

Oi!

Even for a shortarse you're doing better than me, alright?

So don't sweat it.

I know that you made this thread for a reason but you don't seem to have many problems right now in dating if you have dated that many girls since last year. That's way better than what I've done in the dating world since that time.

Believe me, other problems and issues you start discover after getting past the first step.

It might not happen to all guys here but I am noticing a certain pattern, Me, Maclevara, MXH, tech-something, Jono (what happened to that last date, Jono?), JanuaryMan, and Geeko (if his latest dates don't work out then he's joining the club) and other few users, not sure about wolfheart.

Those are guys who worked hard on themselves in some ways (whether by doing gym or activities or actively using dating sites.....etc).

My harsh theory: You have a damaged good, you try to fix it by covering the holes but they are still there, it was that damaged. You need to fix the holes in another way by filling them with materials that last and abolish the holes for good, or to give up the whole thing.
The things is, those 'materials' are hard to earn.

what about me,where do I fit in the whole dateless guys group. I am not shy.