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^ You could always become the confident ****hole that nobody wants to put the energy into questioning. Comes with a +2 to desirability. I think it helps your charisma score too. I don't have the manual with me, but it might affect bluff-checks as well.

This is the case about 80% of the time when a woman sais that. Just simply a nice let down.

It doesn't necessarily mean to leave her alone though, just that she's not interested in you romantically or more than friends.

Then next time ask "Ready for what?"?

I've asked before, and then queue the silence, like I don't exist. So I drop it, because there is no point in repeating the question when they don't want to spell it out for me. When I was a teenager, I did ask and nagged, but that got me nowhere either. The only difference now is that I don't bug them, but it eats me on the inside.

Are you referring to the PUA manual?

That means it's a letdown.

The question is why is she letting you down?

Think about why you got let down in your teenage years, and then ask yourself what has changed between those years and the present.

It's not a matter of who likes you for who you are. The majority of people will not like you for who you are. They will judge, tell you who you are to them and you will either agree or disagree with what they say. You will get 100's, maybe even 1000's of different answers and ideas about how to be more attractive. That is too much to take in, and a lot of advice and opinions to misapply when attempting to get out and date. Apply the KISS (Keep it simple stupid) rule when it comes to dating. Be present, and confident in yourself

Ok people, the OPer is speaking of the woman he wants to ask out, with a married know it all who is the woman's friend.
He is not asking the woman he wants to date anything yet.
Personally, unless the woman is going through tough stuff at that time she says it to you,
her friends have no business telling you to back off at all.
It is up to the woman you want to date whether you are too immature for her or not.
The only people you have to worry about are the parents.
Any friend she has that is a woman, is just going to be a nosey tosser and try and
get who she thinks is right for the woman you want to date to date her, not you.
Your killing your game right from the start asking these woman about the other woman you want to date.
Ask the woman you want to date these questions before you ask her on a date.

I didn't have the answer then, and I am still at a loss as to what it is currently.

If I have to guess, it could be because I had insecurities, maybe because I can't read the situation. To see if it is safe or good to go and ask the person out. I don't think anything has changed since then. When I eventually do get to ask a woman out, I get turned down which in turns, fuels my fears even more.

But the point of this thread is, that in this instance it is a 3rd party letting me down, not the person of interest. So I'm not dealing directly with the person of interest.

Opps. This dynamic wasn't clear to me before. What you need to do is get a wingman to nuke this married woman from orbit. He'll need to be highly skilled to pick off a married woman however. And no, he's not supposed to sleep with her, but distract her. In fact you probably need a wingwoman. Married women are very effective game-shields. The best path is pure avoidance, and isn't that hard to pull, since there is usually a disconnect between a single friend and their married friend, both idealogically, and in the real world, as one probably prefers places where hooking up is possible, and the other avoids said places. However, if you want to take the risky route, just act like her husband. Or 'how she see's her husband' aka a positive version of her husband. If done right, it'll throw her for a loop.

This married woman is probably just a barrier. If you don't have the selfconfidence to believe you can bring a positive relationship to the table for her friend, you didn't have much game to begin with. In which case, meh.

I mean, you're admiting to the 'first line of defense' that you don't know what you're doing. Big mistake.

I think you should only really approach the person of interest about this.
A 3rd party might give you the wrong advice for a number of reasons:
*Jealousy of their friend being liked but not them.
*Don't approve of you for their friend.
*Had a fallout with their friend over something.
*Does not like their friend hooking up while they're married and stuck with the same person etc.

Also, it shows insecurity and youthful mentality on your part. Women talk, and if the woman you like finds out you've spent more time asking her friend rather than her she's going to think less of you.
This might have been ok to do in your teen years but not now. If I were you I'd find a way of talking to this woman you like rather than her friends.

Last edited by JanuaryMan on 06 Oct 2013, 1:56 pm, edited 1 time in total.

^ I think the biases that JanuaryMan points out, validates my (slightly flippant) barrier theory a being a possibly within the realm of reality.

That is some nice regulation JM. So concise.

the ripples sank my boat

Thanks everyone, I guess this is something only a guy could answer for me.