Tired of this "nice guy" and "bad boy"..
Unrealistic hope is a killer.
I never said that love would make things perfect. Did I ever say that? No.
You are right that it is not realistic but i never said I wanted anything perfect.
I accept that my life is not perfect. But I still feel that good things will happen if I stay positive. If I stay negative than I know for a fact it will never work. By staying negative you actually cause most of your own problems. It is a self-fulfilling prophecy. You actually make it so that you get nothing based on your attitude because what you do is reflected by how you feel.
I think we are more similar than you realize. I feel like you a lot that I might as well expect the worst. But I am trying to change that attitude because it is detrimental to my future.
Finding love is a process that takes years. You may have to date a whole bunch of women to find it or you never find. No guarantees. But if there is any chance of it I will not be able to live with myself if I die alone. Better to believe and hope than to scoff and be damned.
I can still find ways to be happy without but I am only happy when I go after what is good for me and what will improve me. A relationship is a job, and its hard, but it can be rewarding as well. Because with hard work comes accomplishment. I need to have a sense of worth. It is why people work at a career. They get a sense of accomplishment and pride. The pride I would have for a love that I helped to build between me and a woman is priceless. You cannot put a price tag on that.
Now if all this does not happen. It's okay. But I am still going to keep trying regardless. It is in our nature to find someone to spend the rest of our life with.
Any else sick of these stereotypes? Cause I sure as hell am!
I mean come on it's just labeling people, and it's wrong. There is no such thing as either a true nice guy, or a true bad boy, I don't believe either one exists. Look everyone is different we are individuals, and other individuals seem to forget that. You can't say the bad boys get laid more, that they get more chicks, because every women is different and will want to date whoever she wants to. Personality is different and unique for each person, I for example can be stereotyped as a "kind bad boy, who doesn't treat women like crap, but is still dangerous, yet is unable to get laid." You want the truth it's in that quote right there.
Now I agree women are attracted to danger, but danger is a very loose term. it can mean a drug taking alcoholic, or it could mean someone who is into extreme sports and the likes of that. Everyone is bringing up statistics in the modern times, to try and prove that bad boys get laid more, but guess what people STATISTICS AREN'T SCIENCE!! !! !! I can not stress that enough, 80% of women will go for the dangerous guy, or 75% of women say they are looking for a nice guys IT'S ALL COMPLETE sh**!
So I say it's finally time to break free from the shackles of stereotypes. Guys stand on the roof tops and shout "I AM A MAN AND I WILL BE WHO I WANT TO BE!" and ladies stand by them and say "I AM A WOMAN AND I WILL DATE WHOEVER I WANT TO DATE!" It's time to end this, time to stand up for individuality and the rights of the unique.
Anyways that's my two cents for the day. Hope yall have a great week!
Yeah!! ! Like it.
And I like what's going on with you at the moment. Sounds like you're loving the direction you are going in.
As a poster - Marcia I think - said on a previous thread a while agoi, it's just how surprising that this notion of 'average' just doesn't exist in reality - so why go for it. By going for the questionable stats (please no disputes on this! ) you might end up in more dating situations - with more people you don't want to be with. If someone is at the stage of their life when they want that, and lots of different experiences, fine. (just be careful you don't get bitten, haha )
But I suspect most people reading this finding dating a chore, and want it to be as efficient towards an 'end goal' of partner for life as possible. In that case, I wouldn't play the stats, I'd just be oneself (or a good version of oneself, for the self-improvers out there).
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I cannot stop laughing at this. I am surprised this topic does not come up once every day! But it sounds like a very consistent topic.
It seems though. this is different probably because the OP is actually saying he is tired of the the whole debate.
I just think its funny that this topic comes up so much. Why am I not surprised?
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This is exactly what I want. The most efficient way to a good relationship is to be yourself! Makes everything a whole lot easier. No mess, no fuss.
Yeah, but...don't hold your breath! By being yourself, you are filtering out a lot of potential matches or near-matches. This could mean a long wait for the 'real thing', rather than a shorter wait for a decent match.
And this sense of self - a lot is based on perception anyway - yours and the other parties. It doesn't matter what actually is the truth or not.
It's so hard desiring a logical, efficient way for a process that is pretty much bonkers, and hit and miss. It's madness.
What's better in dating, 3 5% chances in a year (not that it can be quantified!) or 40 1% chances in a year...and better for who...
Life didn't used to be this complicated. It used to be about the basics - staying alive...
This stereotype is obviously not only on here. A lot of the information out there like PUA stuff is basically just a way to make money off of people who have difficulty scoring woman. A lot of their techniques are complete and utter hogwash. You would more likely get laid if you put on a clown suit and danced on your head in the street than follow their nonsense about being alpha and "dark triad" and other such nonsense! lol. I just clicked on these because they annoyingly flash everywhere and I was curious. I wish i could erase this nonsense from my memory. I am scarred forever. I want to tear out my eyes but then I could still see the image burned into my brain. ugh!!
Anyways I think I got it out of my system. Oh wait, I just thought of one i keep seeing everywhere and it was "the three text messages that will get any girl into you!" or something like that. I was like, now they have gone too far!
This is exactly like cosmo or marie claire where they put things like "the three things that will drive any man crazy in bed". They do this and cram the cover with all this stuff just to get you to buy their magazine. Simple, effective economics. It is just marketing to get you to buy something that is completely useless to you. Hey, it stimulates the economy so no one is complaining.
It goes back to the whole salesman thing joke where you sell ice cubes to the eskimos. Do you think a place that cold, these guys need your ice cubes. They have a million already in their backyard! It is just plain trickery, and blue smoke and mirrors. Ahh, the magic of economics and capitalism. Only in America kids we got what you want! How about a side of poverty with that capitalist investment because you just made a million people poorer than they already were. There is no one starving anywhere so McDonalds throws away half a million burgers a year (well just a guess really). You know how much food they waste! I know because I used to wash dishes after breakfast at the local McDonalds when I was 17. A log time ago but still I think they probably still do it. I mean everyday there would be a whole stack of breakfast sausage patties being thrown away.
Basically people everywhere are becoming rich off of people for just about anything. And it seems most people just eat it up completely oblivious to the fact that they are the victims of the biggest con game ever. And that is marketing 101 and all you need to know in business school. I think I already got a degree just writing this! lol.
Sort of went off on a tangent but I hope you get the picture. We are swimming in unpaid bills, financial aid people calling for their money, and you still have to pay the damn mortgage on your house with money you do not even have. The government does not have any money even though they just robbed thousands of your hard earned money. We are in hell!
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I cannot stop laughing at this. I am surprised this topic does not come up once every day! But it sounds like a very consistent topic.
It seems though. this is different probably because the OP is actually saying he is tired of the the whole debate.
I just think its funny that this topic comes up so much. Why am I not surprised?
I've made once a Count thread for all NiceJerk-related threads.
It was locked, probably the mods realized it would go on infinitely.
You have identified the problem with what PUA is all about. It's not about anything meaningful or beyond dating, and sex. A lot of guys that have little or no success with women look up to guys like that, not realizing what it is they're actually looking up to. A lot of decent guys can get misled and lose sight of what they wanted in the first place. Others who were only fooling themselves into thinking they were decent guys will see PUA as a solution, without identifying what the problem is both with themselves and PUA in general. Women see right through it and yes some do like the fun and games but no healthy relationship will come of their techniques as they are not meant for relationships. Beta men who play will also get played.
And this sense of self - a lot is based on perception anyway - yours and the other parties. It doesn't matter what actually is the truth or not.
It's so hard desiring a logical, efficient way for a process that is pretty much bonkers, and hit and miss. It's madness.
What's better in dating, 3 5% chances in a year (not that it can be quantified!) or 40 1% chances in a year...and better for who...
Life didn't used to be this complicated. It used to be about the basics - staying alive...
I think in America, capitalism and technology are what is making life more difficult. Every body wants everything fast because we live in the "fast food nation". Pretty soon they will have one of those complete meal machines that give you a full meal with the push of a button! We live in dangerous times indeed. Fast does not equal a better life it means a lazier and more unproductive output.
Did you know that research has been done on how social functioning of everyone is taking a hit because of over use of social media? It is all just theoretical but I would say that it is making it more difficult for people to read body language because some people barely talk to anyone in person anymore. Everyone is pretty much glued to their facebook and twitter accounts. Most of these people would go through withdrawal symptoms if they were taken away. lol.
Anyways I know that by being yourself you reduce the amount of interested woman. This is one of the drawbacks of being yourself. Like you said, there are also too many variables to be able to determine what being yourself means and how you read it in everyone else. There is not much trust with people anymore and I think it is because people are talking less and less in person like the old days. I mean how many people use texting as a legitimate way to meet up with prospective dates. What happened? Can't people just pick up the phone and talk to someone. What have your ears stopped working. lol. I am sort of a luddite when it comes to texting cannot stand it. When I was growing up there were three things the telephone, letters, and in person. That was it. And cell phones in the eighties looked ridiculous anyways but had no texting! Yeah try putting that phone in your pocket looking stylish with a giant bulge in your pants. yikes! Is that what I think it is! Oh wait its a cell phone.
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Big promises for sexual fantasies.
Do you want to make ANY HOT girl f**** you every weekend?
Just buy the "FUKCMENOW: The Ultimate Seduction Science!"
Yea, something like that.
hahaha. There is this one douchebag who has a channel on you tube. Some bald dude with tattoos. Cannot remember his name.
Anyways, I am not into the idea of turning into a raving Machiavellian pyschopath ! I am sure a lot of people on here would agree. I like my personality the way it is.
It is like these guys have the ability to use the jedi mind trick. If you fall for it you must be weak-minded.
"You will go forth and become a douchebag to get women"
"I will go forth and become a douchebag to get women"
Watch as all the lemmings fall off the cliff to their death!
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