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24 Nov 2013, 6:29 am

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I don't understand why they make it so hard. They obviously want sex and obviously don't care that much if the guys a bastard.

So why not have sex with a socially awkward guy at least once? Why would that be worse than having sex with someone you know is a bastard?


Because humans are apes.

Her ex made her feel feminine while Shau wasn't seen man enough in her eyes.


Wrong.

Her ex makes her feel sexually alive.

He would not have had a problem if... well, yeah.



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24 Nov 2013, 6:56 am

sorry to hear that shau. that's pretty sh***y.


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24 Nov 2013, 7:11 am

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Meh. I tried playing the "nice guy with a spine" role and now the whole world can witness how well it works out.


Yes, you tried playing that role with her and it did not work out with her. That doesn't mean that it can't work out with someone else. Since you called it a role, think of it like a stage actor would a role. He might bomb in one or two cities but get good and even great reviews in others. It depends on the audience. Play your role in front of another audience or two before deciding that it won't work.

I'm sorry you are going through this. I know how bad it sucks.



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24 Nov 2013, 7:36 am

Tequila wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
jerry00 wrote:
I don't understand why they make it so hard. They obviously want sex and obviously don't care that much if the guys a bastard.

So why not have sex with a socially awkward guy at least once? Why would that be worse than having sex with someone you know is a bastard?


Because humans are apes.

Her ex made her feel feminine while Shau wasn't seen man enough in her eyes.


Wrong.

Her ex makes her feel sexually alive.

He would not have had a problem if... well, yeah.



We're saying the same thing, do you realize that?



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24 Nov 2013, 7:38 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
jerry00 wrote:
I don't understand why they make it so hard. They obviously want sex and obviously don't care that much if the guys a bastard.

So why not have sex with a socially awkward guy at least once? Why would that be worse than having sex with someone you know is a bastard?



Because humans are apes.

Her ex made her feel feminine while Shau wasn't seen man enough in her eyes.

This.



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24 Nov 2013, 7:40 am

Well it's kinda weird how "feeling feminine" seems to coincide with "feeling like s**t". Feminine seems to be a pretty bad emotion.



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24 Nov 2013, 10:47 am

Sorry to hear about that, I really am. Did she have feelings for her ex all along? Did you know about it?
Personally, although it hasn't always been like this, I'd rather have my heart broken than be the bastard who breaks someone else's. or be so protective of myself that I put walls around me and stop trusting the people around me. Fulfilling relationships require vulnerability, and vulnerability entails risk, and this time it didn't work out. For what it's worth, you have now more experience, and are a better judge of character. Do you mind PM's? I am not an expert but I do know a few things. All in all, if you feel you can't trust people anymore that is normal, and if you want to give up for a while it's fine, but don't let that become who you are, happiness is not down that road.


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24 Nov 2013, 8:11 pm

I'm so sorry mate.

This is why I personally never get into a relationship with someone who just got out of one. I will date them or be friends with benefits but no relationship. It's too dangerous.



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24 Nov 2013, 8:42 pm

dude, she clearly wasnt worth it. And now u have the best reason and motivation in the world to never again give her a single moment of your life.

I probably wouldn't think about her again for the rest of my life.

not even trying either. It's like, worse than dead to me, she would cease to exist from the moment she did something like that. No crying, no emotion, she's not worth anything but waking up the next day with sun shining through the window and life ready to be lived again.

Its much better than realising she wasnt the kind of person u liked. Cheating is a more definite end to it than anything and in a way it's not that bad at all because there's no point wasting time on what ifs with a person like that and that is a massively good thing.

Really, i wish the last thing i was involved in had ended so definitely. Its such a better closure to know theres nothing at all worth salvaging and you can move on like it never existed.

people you dont care about cant hurt you.



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24 Nov 2013, 8:58 pm

Ehhhhh

I'm seeing this prospective new girl later on this week to nerd out with some Settlers of Cataan and Chess. She seems ok with me coming over to her place with it being just us alone as her flatmates are gone. Could be a good sign.

Either way, this is not exactly what a recovering misanthropist needs...I did perfectly right by her, even turned down a girl who was interested in sex while I was in a relationship with her, and she betrays my honorable deed with infidelity. It's the ultimate kick in the crotch.

In reality, she's probably one of those girls hopelessly drawn to playboys and needs a "nice guy" to mend her heart after it gets periodically shattered to pieces. I wouldn't doubt she's used many guys like this. Oh well, I know better now.



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24 Nov 2013, 9:27 pm

Shau wrote:
Ehhhhh

I'm seeing this prospective new girl later on this week to nerd out with some Settlers of Cataan and Chess. She seems ok with me coming over to her place with it being just us alone as her flatmates are gone. Could be a good sign.

Either way, this is not exactly what a recovering misanthropist needs...I did perfectly right by her, even turned down a girl who was interested in sex while I was in a relationship with her, and she betrays my honorable deed with infidelity. It's the ultimate kick in the crotch.

In reality, she's probably one of those girls hopelessly drawn to playboys and needs a "nice guy" to mend her heart after it gets periodically shattered to pieces. I wouldn't doubt she's used many guys like this. Oh well, I know better now.



i do know how you feel. Its hard enough to make the attempt to be interested in someone without some idiot playing selfish games with you. Just treat it as a lesson on the morality of selfish females. i.e. its all about them and nobody but them matter. They SHOULDN'T exist, giving the world the benefit of the doubt says that it doesn't make sense to be like that, but there really are girls out there like that and knowing to watch out for them is a good way to stop yourself getting caught up in their selfish little worlds.

At least it makes you grateful when the good ones come along.



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24 Nov 2013, 9:38 pm

I'm so sorry to hear. You obviously deserve someone way better than her.



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24 Nov 2013, 9:42 pm

Hey there... Hope you hold up well. would have to agree with Leafplant, take the positives from this if you can. It sucks to have to deal with it, I know.

Anyway... one pointer I can give for dating experience is to remember what happened with each person you date and look for a pattern. Eventually, you'll come across the type of girl you attract, and in my case.. it was girls that didn't get over an ex yet (there were a few of them). I also observed that if I pushed too soon, the girl would pull away. Another pattern I observed was that the majority didn't know what they wanted either and would use that as an excuse to be with multiple partners. I got used to some pretty immature girls... and they sure didn't like feeling guilty either.


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25 Nov 2013, 5:33 am

Shau wrote:
Well it's kinda weird how "feeling feminine" seems to coincide with "feeling like sh**". Feminine seems to be a pretty bad emotion.


It's nothing to do with that. It's nothing to do with him being an as*hole either.

I don't want to make it too obvious (because of how humiliated you will feel - this is on a whole other scale), but it's there for me to see, plain as day.



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25 Nov 2013, 5:42 am

You were the rebound guy.



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25 Nov 2013, 5:45 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
You were the rebound guy.


Er, no.

She really did like him and was desperate for him to make a move and show that he could take charge. She was aching the whole time for him to sexually excite her, to bring her passion. She was aching for that. And he did nothing the entire time because he was that terrified of violating boundaries that were not only not there, but that she wanted him to steamroller over in a momentous tidal wave of male passion.

She was begging OP to do something, anything, to show that he actually has a strong sexual desire for her and is willing to act upon it. The 'cultural' stuff is an awful lot of absolute BS.

No wonder she went back to her ex. It's not nice or right, but it's the truth.