Women, is i ok to beat your boyfriend?

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29 Aug 2014, 2:55 pm

I am shocked that this thread exists, I hold the view that it is wrong to beat your partner regardless of your gender.


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29 Aug 2014, 3:22 pm

I had a friend once that was a girl and I guess others thought we were dating, not not from my pov. I guess I was not really into the you have date and have sex with girls yet. middleschool. anyways she would hit me if I cussed or did something wrong. or said something wrong. but she could do all those things but not me or she'd hit me.

the old age teach of men can't hit women. seems to express that it is ok for a woman to hit men. I will never hit a woman except for if she trying to kill me. puts me at a disadvantage. plus I lean more towards being submissive. I honestly don't know if its ok for a woman to beat her bf.



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29 Aug 2014, 3:46 pm

Its never ok for someone to hit someone else, esp in a relationship.

I think some people say its ok to hit if someone does x or y, but my opinion is that that is what causes domestic abuse.

Exes who hit me have told me they dont agree with hitting women but that I deserved it, they had no choice but to hit me as Im so deranged.

I think they grow up thinking domestic violence is wrong and perpetrated against quiet weak women, however because they are taught to 'hit back against oppression' they resort to violence when they feel their rights violated (such as by someone nagging/shouting/disagreeing).

All the women who were in the refuge shelter when I was, were stroppy, gobby, opinionated women, strong women, annoying women. I think violence will continue while people think its ok to hit people who 'deserve it' or who are 'out of line'. We need to end the myth that only mousey women are hit (they probably not hit actually as do what told without it!)

I think aspies are esp vulnerable to being hit by a spouse as we tend to be more annoying and we tend to have trouble telling if we are in the wrong or if the other person is and weve been 'disciplined' all our lives as weve been getting things wrong since before we can remember so it seems very natural to be displeasing people (not a situation that shocks us into leaving).

And its not NTs or psychopaths seeking out victims as 2 men who hit me had ASD.

I wish there was more services available to help violent spouses not be violent.



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29 Aug 2014, 4:01 pm

Of course it isn't OK. Take it from me, humans can be a vicious species; that said, having watched my parents go down that road I'm willing to confront the reasoning behind it should this ever happen to me. As lotusblossom pointed out I might annoy the ladies in my life as a function of my biological programming, but we're non-violent people; instead of fighting, anyone who thinks like me moves past such inadequacies eventually. Another thing to keep in mind is that a dose of common sense can really help aggressive people confront and improve the consequences of those tendencies, if anything, it's something you should try to help them overcome.


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29 Aug 2014, 4:17 pm

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She knew that I could not and would never hit back and took advantage of that and taunt me and told me to hit her and I never did and she got angrier and told me that Im no real man and a pushover. I told her that a real man does not hit a woman no matter what and this really infuriated her to be more abusive. I loved her but she did not love me back.


She was a fool, abuse of power and violence doesn't make a man.



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29 Aug 2014, 4:54 pm

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I am wondering this if it is ok to beat your boyfriend in order to get what you want? Is this socially acceptable and is it a good thing? I am hoping no but want to know the true answer.

Do you really not know the answer? Why do think it could be acceptable for anyone to use violence against others to get what they want?

Are you trolling?



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29 Aug 2014, 5:43 pm

dilanger wrote:
Lesson of the story everyone. Under no circumstances a man should ever retaliate physically towards a woman.

You did well to control the vehicle.

Ideally you want to avoid violence.

I have to take issue with 'no circumstances'. If your life is in danger, than you may need to defend yourself. It doesn't matter it is a woman or man.

For think like punches and slaps, only you in the moment can gauge the situation. There are ways of minimizing damage, it is not something you can learn out of textbook however it takes practice.

I think that any concept of total impunity in one aspect of life is morally shaky.

I'm a big advocate of reporting assaults becuase examples need to be made sometimes.



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29 Aug 2014, 5:46 pm

Yuzu wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
I am wondering this if it is ok to beat your boyfriend in order to get what you want? Is this socially acceptable and is it a good thing? I am hoping no but want to know the true answer.

Do you really not know the answer? Why do think it could be acceptable for anyone to use violence against others to get what they want?

Are you trolling?


I think being abused saps confidence, to the point to start to doubt yourself. It is basically conditioning.

Even single incidents can do this too.



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29 Aug 2014, 9:02 pm

It is not okay. It is not socially acceptable (as far as I know). However, you are not alone in beating physically abused by your ex-girlfriend. I know of other men whose partners get angry and hit them. A lot of guys are ashamed to talk about it. I'm sorry that happened to you. I hope you find the courage to risk loving again.



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29 Aug 2014, 10:03 pm

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Yes, it's ok. Some men have medical issues with their hands, arms, and/or wrists, or maybe they're just too tired after a day at work, and cannot beat themselves. It helps to have a girlfriend do it for them. It's a very considerate thing to do.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
But seriously,it's not ok to hit anyone unless it's self defense.


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30 Aug 2014, 12:43 am

lotusblossom wrote:
Its never ok for someone to hit someone else, esp in a relationship.

I think some people say its ok to hit if someone does x or y, but my opinion is that that is what causes domestic abuse.

Exes who hit me have told me they dont agree with hitting women but that I deserved it, they had no choice but to hit me as Im so deranged.

I think they grow up thinking domestic violence is wrong and perpetrated against quiet weak women, however because they are taught to 'hit back against oppression' they resort to violence when they feel their rights violated (such as by someone nagging/shouting/disagreeing).

All the women who were in the refuge shelter when I was, were stroppy, gobby, opinionated women, strong women, annoying women. I think violence will continue while people think its ok to hit people who 'deserve it' or who are 'out of line'. We need to end the myth that only mousey women are hit (they probably not hit actually as do what told without it!)

I think aspies are esp vulnerable to being hit by a spouse as we tend to be more annoying and we tend to have trouble telling if we are in the wrong or if the other person is and weve been 'disciplined' all our lives as weve been getting things wrong since before we can remember so it seems very natural to be displeasing people (not a situation that shocks us into leaving).

And its not NTs or psychopaths seeking out victims as 2 men who hit me had ASD.

I wish there was more services available to help violent spouses not be violent.


I don't think i could ever hit a woman. yell at one in a fight sadly yes. but pretty much everyone does.

deranged??
when someone naggs or shouts at me my instinct is go to hide and cry. then not to talk as I shouldn't talk. me talking is bad.



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30 Aug 2014, 5:11 am

Sadomasochism is not actually abuse. For people who enjoy it, it is pleasure. If you do not like it, than I guess it is abuse. I don't even think sadomasochism is illegal. Some people like it rough. However, I'm sure if you break a jaw, or flatten someones face, you will probably go to prison. Unless you're a police officer.


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30 Aug 2014, 4:29 pm

It saddens me how many women I know who joke about stuff like this or who have hit their boyfriends. I remember a Jezebel.article about it and it disgusted me how casual they were about being abusive spouses (as if feeling bad about it later redeems you). I don't care how bad you feel about flying off the handle - you are responsible for your actions. Ladies, your supposed guilt means f**k all if you don't make the right steps to improve.

Worse is that some women I know blame their boyfriends for their own instability and even claim that HE is abusing her. Sorry, but people like that need to sort themselves out before going into a relationship.



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01 Sep 2014, 2:38 pm

MindBlind wrote:
It saddens me how many women I know who joke about stuff like this or who have hit their boyfriends. I remember a Jezebel.article about it and it disgusted me how casual they were about being abusive spouses (as if feeling bad about it later redeems you). I don't care how bad you feel about flying off the handle - you are responsible for your actions. Ladies, your supposed guilt means f**k all if you don't make the right steps to improve.

Worse is that some women I know blame their boyfriends for their own instability and even claim that HE is abusing her. Sorry, but people like that need to sort themselves out before going into a relationship.
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever ... uh-we-have they seem darn proud of beating on their boyfriends.


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01 Sep 2014, 3:23 pm

AspieOtaku wrote:
MindBlind wrote:
It saddens me how many women I know who joke about stuff like this or who have hit their boyfriends. I remember a Jezebel.article about it and it disgusted me how casual they were about being abusive spouses (as if feeling bad about it later redeems you). I don't care how bad you feel about flying off the handle - you are responsible for your actions. Ladies, your supposed guilt means f**k all if you don't make the right steps to improve.

Worse is that some women I know blame their boyfriends for their own instability and even claim that HE is abusing her. Sorry, but people like that need to sort themselves out before going into a relationship.
http://jezebel.com/294383/have-you-ever ... uh-we-have they seem darn proud of beating on their boyfriends.

They are disgusting, makes me ashamed to be human.

A perfect example of how people are what they are, not what you want them to be or think they should be (I can imagine lots of people saying 'women/feminists dont think/say that').



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01 Sep 2014, 5:14 pm

seems quite a bit think its ok or means nothing cause the guy is bigger then the woman therefore she can't really hurt him. cause you know women are incapable of hurting other humans, they just so weak. and no amount of hitting or using objects could they hurt a guy. :'( so its ok for them to hit their guys.

so if there's a tiny guy with no muscle then he couldn't hurt a woman so can he hit her now.

I am not that strong. and women can hurt me. especially cause I won't hit back or defend myself unless it becomes life threatening. so when my mom hits me its ok cause it doesn't hurt as bad as if my friend hit me?

this logic is stupid. should be bad to hit anyone even if you hitting them won't hurt them.
it can cause emotional and mental scars. perhaps this is why I am afraid of being hit by women when i am near them and they yell. cause in the pat I've been hit by mad women..

but part of me also feels its ok :"(