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08 Jun 2015, 8:31 am

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You are correct, love and relationships are not easy, but just because it takes longer for some people doesn’t mean it’s not going to happen.


Maybe. I don't care anymore about that. I have more interesting things to do rather than chatting with random girls.



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08 Jun 2015, 8:33 am

Don't be, as most with a verified disorder haven't.

Internet forums aren't a good depiction of reality.



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08 Jun 2015, 9:05 am

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If I'd ever start dating again, my job, career and if I have a car would be the last things to discuss with girl - so as about her career or possessions.

Wow. That's pretty much the first thing that comes up when I meet a person, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Career reflects personality quite well. I go for the caring and selfless type so I end up dating teachers and social workers. Besides, wouldn't you like to be appreciated for something you put an effort into instead of something you were born with?



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08 Jun 2015, 9:18 am

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If I'd ever start dating again, my job, career and if I have a car would be the last things to discuss with girl - so as about her career or possessions.

Wow. That's pretty much the first thing that comes up when I meet a person, but I don't think it's a bad thing. Career reflects personality quite well. I go for the caring and selfless type so I end up dating teachers and social workers. Besides, wouldn't you like to be appreciated for something you put an effort into instead of something you were born with?


Achievements are often a matter of luck - if say Steve Jobs will live all his life in Syria (I assume you know he's Syrian adopted by American parents) he'd probably end his career as owner of small pc store in Damascus despite all his numerous talents and passion.

So what I wannt to see in other person - what is his/her character, then - what are the passions and talents, and only after that what is his job.

Personally, my job always was just for money and none of my real achievements was ever connected with job. When I was unpaid journalist I got an interviews with representatives of Taliban, Hezbollah, various Russian gang leaders - it was difficult, risky, and it wasn't related with a career of software developer at that time.

Then I was a leader of social movement - and again, it was not a career, I had no money from it but got some significant successes there as I think.

And so on. That is why I don't judge people by their career and amount of money.

Or maybe I'm just such a looser and the only one who wasn't able to get money for volunteering, social activism and independent journalism.



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08 Jun 2015, 10:08 am

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When I was unpaid journalist I got an interviews with representatives of Taliban, Hezbollah, various Russian gang leaders - it was difficult, risky, and it wasn't related with a career of software developer at that time.

But it's related to who you are as a person. Even if you didn't get any money out of it, I bet you've got some amazing stories to tell on a date. :)



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08 Jun 2015, 11:15 am

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When I was unpaid journalist I got an interviews with representatives of Taliban, Hezbollah, various Russian gang leaders - it was difficult, risky, and it wasn't related with a career of software developer at that time.

But it's related to who you are as a person. Even if you didn't get any money out of it, I bet you've got some amazing stories to tell on a date. :)


You'll wonder how small amount of girls is interested in such stories. I assume one of hundred at best - never met one.



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08 Jun 2015, 2:28 pm

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At this time, it is a very good idea to learn about saving and investing. And keeping a reasonably clean and neat household. If you can do all that, and perhaps get promoted once or twice, you should be reasonably attractive dating material to someone.


This topic is really interesting!
I have a question again - doesn't quote above mean that such things can rather attract some girl who will love your money and social class rather then your personality? I mean - if she is judging mostly by money she behaves as bitсh imho, thinking how to sell her vagina for bigger price. Why one would ever need such wife? I'm curious.
Both girlfriends I had were not into materialistic things at all so as me. And I had several years of relations with each - not too small time together.


Women has traditionally earned less than men. Which means that a lot of women can't earn enough money to support a husband and familiy, even though they would like to. But, this is changing--and it is likely that in a generation or two after salaries have equalized, I think this bias is likely to disappear.

You might try dating university students who are away from home and less likely to be influenced by their families. Many universities sponsor special interest clubs as a recreational activity for students.



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08 Jun 2015, 2:50 pm

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At this time, it is a very good idea to learn about saving and investing. And keeping a reasonably clean and neat household. If you can do all that, and perhaps get promoted once or twice, you should be reasonably attractive dating material to someone.


This topic is really interesting!
I have a question again - doesn't quote above mean that such things can rather attract some girl who will love your money and social class rather then your personality? I mean - if she is judging mostly by money she behaves as bitсh imho, thinking how to sell her vagina for bigger price. Why one would ever need such wife? I'm curious.
Both girlfriends I had were not into materialistic things at all so as me. And I had several years of relations with each - not too small time together.


Women has traditionally earned less than men. Which means that a lot of women can't earn enough money to support a husband and familiy, even though they would like to. But, this is changing--and it is likely that in a generation or two after salaries have equalized, I think this bias is likely to disappear.

You might try dating university students who are away from home and less likely to be influenced by their families. Many universities sponsor special interest clubs as a recreational activity for students.


Hmm, I am just going to college (US) again this Fall, for Political Science major. At least one advantage of this idea :-)



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08 Jun 2015, 4:40 pm

BTDT wrote:
Andreger wrote:
BTDT wrote:
At this time, it is a very good idea to learn about saving and investing. And keeping a reasonably clean and neat household. If you can do all that, and perhaps get promoted once or twice, you should be reasonably attractive dating material to someone.


This topic is really interesting!
I have a question again - doesn't quote above mean that such things can rather attract some girl who will love your money and social class rather then your personality? I mean - if she is judging mostly by money she behaves as bitсh imho, thinking how to sell her vagina for bigger price. Why one would ever need such wife? I'm curious.
Both girlfriends I had were not into materialistic things at all so as me. And I had several years of relations with each - not too small time together.


Women has traditionally earned less than men. Which means that a lot of women can't earn enough money to support a husband and familiy, even though they would like to. But, this is changing--and it is likely that in a generation or two after salaries have equalized, I think this bias is likely to disappear.

You might try dating university students who are away from home and less likely to be influenced by their families. Many universities sponsor special interest clubs as a recreational activity for students.


THIS. It is my postgraduate degree I am doing at the moment at third university I attended and second university I graduating in. I have two more semesters left after this one where my exam finishes next week. I am heavily involved in many student society clubs and that. I am member of four different clubs and I am active with them. I am balancing between them and my postgraduate work, and other commitments quite well. My grades so high, around 6 and a 7 sometimes. I do get distracted, but I am still smart at my own work, which I am not concerned with. Never experienced loss of intelligence myself.

But, I did meet women from these groups. They rarely available. It a same happened to my other uni when I did my undergraduate degree. They always always always not available for me, but available for others. They make lot of excuses, by saying:
1. too busy with uni workload
2. does not want a relationship
3. too drunken and party animal probe
4. already with someone
5. never liked me
6. never find me attractive, same for fwb stuff too

So, that happens to every single single single single rejections I get. I never came across accepting lady who go on a date with me or have fwb if she likes it too. I don't understand what is wrong with me? Is it my mild ASD in combination with my hearing loss makes to scare all women away because they see me too highly maintenance in terms of trying to understand me?

I can't find answers, nor does all those 100 counselling appointments I attended over past 8 years. It seems every women on this planet hates me for some reason. What I meant I have unique, special and awesome traits is that what everyone as friends I met from groups and classes told me. They kept saying I am good person and every values in positive way and they said I can easily get a girlfriend with that. I am missing something here?



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08 Jun 2015, 5:03 pm

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Or maybe it is not about the money but about the stability? Sure certain women are only interested in what they can get just like certain men. I think those sort of people will reveal their true nature quickly.

You said that you ask girls out after a few days/weeks, maybe that is to short of a time? Maybe you should try waiting longer until you know them better? Maybe some girls say no because it goes to quickly forward for them?


stability they think can only come from money, ie its about the money. saying its about stability is just a around the way way of not looking like a gold digger. if you don't care about money you'd wouldn't care about their job or how much they make. often though women leave guys who are stable but just don't' make enough. funny how guys dont' care about women being stable or how much a woman makes. well most guys anyways.

men are only as good as the money they make. problem is most men are worthless now a days. :cry:



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08 Jun 2015, 5:11 pm

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Women has traditionally earned less than men. Which means that a lot of women can't earn enough money to support a husband and familiy, even though they would like to. But, this is changing--and it is likely that in a generation or two after salaries have equalized, I think this bias is likely to disappear.

You might try dating university students who are away from home and less likely to be influenced by their families. Many universities sponsor special interest clubs as a recreational activity for students.


so idk maybe both the men and women work and live together. :o i know shocking idea.
it doens't have to be the male supports both or the female supports both. they can both work and support each other.

most low middle classs or lower salaries are equal. yet the bias i still going strong. as long as women tell their daughters they have to seek men who make tons of money and anything else isn't good enough the bias will always be around. its a culture thing passed down generation to generation. at the rate its going away it'll be another 200 years or more. as its relying on one or two women to go against it while 98 go with it. providing all have a daughter that's another 98 taught to support it and 2 to avoid it. maybe another 2 of that 98 go against it. anyways its slow going. most women support the system as is. men then have to compete and insult each other in a attempt to obtain the good money to be able to gain these women's ok to date. leading men to embrace a system that bases their worth solely on the money they make. making men less than human.

university students are getting degrees, that they for now falsely assume will land them high paying jobs. so they want men who will land or have higher paying jobs then their jobs. this is basing dating on idea future worth of a man. I'd hate to be the guy that doesn't live up to that future worth and get throw out.



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09 Jun 2015, 12:13 am

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Andreger wrote:
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At this time, it is a very good idea to learn about saving and investing. And keeping a reasonably clean and neat household. If you can do all that, and perhaps get promoted once or twice, you should be reasonably attractive dating material to someone.


This topic is really interesting!
I have a question again - doesn't quote above mean that such things can rather attract some girl who will love your money and social class rather then your personality? I mean - if she is judging mostly by money she behaves as bitсh imho, thinking how to sell her vagina for bigger price. Why one would ever need such wife? I'm curious.
Both girlfriends I had were not into materialistic things at all so as me. And I had several years of relations with each - not too small time together.


Women has traditionally earned less than men. Which means that a lot of women can't earn enough money to support a husband and familiy, even though they would like to. But, this is changing--and it is likely that in a generation or two after salaries have equalized, I think this bias is likely to disappear.

You might try dating university students who are away from home and less likely to be influenced by their families. Many universities sponsor special interest clubs as a recreational activity for students.


THIS. It is my postgraduate degree I am doing at the moment at third university I attended and second university I graduating in. I have two more semesters left after this one where my exam finishes next week. I am heavily involved in many student society clubs and that. I am member of four different clubs and I am active with them. I am balancing between them and my postgraduate work, and other commitments quite well. My grades so high, around 6 and a 7 sometimes. I do get distracted, but I am still smart at my own work, which I am not concerned with. Never experienced loss of intelligence myself.

But, I did meet women from these groups. They rarely available. It a same happened to my other uni when I did my undergraduate degree. They always always always not available for me, but available for others. They make lot of excuses, by saying:
1. too busy with uni workload
2. does not want a relationship
3. too drunken and party animal probe
4. already with someone
5. never liked me
6. never find me attractive, same for fwb stuff too

So, that happens to every single single single single rejections I get. I never came across accepting lady who go on a date with me or have fwb if she likes it too. I don't understand what is wrong with me? Is it my mild ASD in combination with my hearing loss makes to scare all women away because they see me too highly maintenance in terms of trying to understand me?

I can't find answers, nor does all those 100 counselling appointments I attended over past 8 years. It seems every women on this planet hates me for some reason. What I meant I have unique, special and awesome traits is that what everyone as friends I met from groups and classes told me. They kept saying I am good person and every values in positive way and they said I can easily get a girlfriend with that. I am missing something here?


I thought this thread is about how aspies here are dating and that etc. Not the mention of men with good money. That is rather shallow. I am bumping up my last post to get this back on topic.



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09 Jun 2015, 1:14 am

Dating and good money are closely related.

Especially if you are a man.



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09 Jun 2015, 2:50 am

Well what about this?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 7188036041

Is that true? Can't believe I am missing out on everything for some purpose and reason. It gives me chills and at loss. Don't understand what is wrong with me.



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09 Jun 2015, 3:10 am

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Well what about this?

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victor ... 7188036041

Is that true? Can't believe I am missing out on everything for some purpose and reason. It gives me chills and at loss. Don't understand what is wrong with me.


In Russia it's the same as in the article.

"Friends with benefits"... damn, how else will those writers call sex without responsibility and true emotions?



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09 Jun 2015, 6:10 am

Dating sites' surveys are BS.