A Self-Made-Man girl discovers that life as a man is harder
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I wasn't talking about most men. Those were my impressions, and she certainly ran circles around me as a man. Going on thirty dates in a year and a half is impressive enough to me, and it's just the tip of the iceberg.
I may have a slightly more masculine build than she appeared to have, and be about two inches taller, none of which means any merit on my part, because I was simply born this way. In absolutely every other regard, she pwn3d me.
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This is a precious, a very precious experiment, I wonder if they did a filmed documentary about it.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/Entertainmen ... id=1526982
She was quickly reminded that in this arena, it's women who have the power, she said.
"In fact, we sit there and we just with one word, 'no,' will crush someone," she said. "We don't have to do the part where you cross the room and you go up to a stranger that you've never met in the middle of a room full of people and say the first words. And those first words are so hard to say without sounding like a cheeseball or sounding like a jerk."
Vincent encountered some pretty cold shoulders in her attempts at the bar, but she did manage to go on about 30 dates with women as "Ned," mostly arranging them on the Internet.
Vincent said the dates were rarely fun and that the pressure of "Ned" having to prove himself was grueling. She was surprised that many women had no interest in a soft, vulnerable man.
Ironically, Vincent said, it took experiencing life as a man for her to appreciate being a woman. "I really like being a woman. ... I like it more now because I think it's more of a privilege."
Boo, there's a book she wrote about it too that I read - pretty good (it's been awhile since I read it). The book is called "Self-made Man".
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
It took me months. Probably a good six months to really get back into being a woman. And this is partly because I had some unpacking to do. It wasn’t just a matter of returning to myself, because I am a different person now than I was before I embarked on this project. I feel more womanly now, more in touch with my femininity, than I ever did before I lived as Ned, and that has taken some getting used to, though it has been very pleasant.
I don’t miss anything about being Ned. The few social advantages I discovered in manhood—the swagger, the self-confidence, the entitlement—I’ve learned to incorporate into my life as a woman. Everything else I was happy to discard.”
-Norah Vincent on being Ned for 1.5 year"
I have to disagree with having "emotional freedom" as a woman. If women are emotional, they are said to be *itchy or having PMS or bipolar.
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Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
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I may have a slightly more masculine build than she appeared to have, and be about two inches taller, none of which means any merit on my part, because I was simply born this way. In absolutely every other regard, she pwn3d me.
Well, remember she's a NT, and obviously a sociable one, she's also a writer so she's more articulate than the average person. And she's a lesbian, so she had already some experience in dealing with women before, but even her admitted that those dates were rarely fun- just see her facial expression when she said "my god, not again" when that girl was acting cold and mean to her (apparently because she didn't find Net attractive), and I guess those few who still wanted to pursue her after knowing her gender, are either bi or closet bi.
It would be interesting to see what she wrote in her dating profile and first messages, we'll see if she did in her book.
I'd feel silly apologizing to a woman for mentioning porn in front of her. Most likely, she'll have lots more experience than I do in every aspect of life, including all the crude ones.
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It took me months. Probably a good six months to really get back into being a woman. And this is partly because I had some unpacking to do. It wasn’t just a matter of returning to myself, because I am a different person now than I was before I embarked on this project. I feel more womanly now, more in touch with my femininity, than I ever did before I lived as Ned, and that has taken some getting used to, though it has been very pleasant.
I don’t miss anything about being Ned. The few social advantages I discovered in manhood—the swagger, the self-confidence, the entitlement—I’ve learned to incorporate into my life as a woman. Everything else I was happy to discard.”
-Norah Vincent on being Ned for 1.5 year"
I have to disagree with having "emotional freedom" as a woman. If women are emotional, they are said to be *itchy or having PMS or bipolar.
Well, look how I see it.
She is probably, one of the very few humans in human history who has ever experienced both worlds first hand.
So what she says has way more credibility than what you say. No offense.
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It took me months. Probably a good six months to really get back into being a woman. And this is partly because I had some unpacking to do. It wasn’t just a matter of returning to myself, because I am a different person now than I was before I embarked on this project. I feel more womanly now, more in touch with my femininity, than I ever did before I lived as Ned, and that has taken some getting used to, though it has been very pleasant.
I don’t miss anything about being Ned. The few social advantages I discovered in manhood—the swagger, the self-confidence, the entitlement—I’ve learned to incorporate into my life as a woman. Everything else I was happy to discard.”
-Norah Vincent on being Ned for 1.5 year"
I have to disagree with having "emotional freedom" as a woman. If women are emotional, they are said to be *itchy or having PMS or bipolar.
Well, look how I see it.
She is probably, one of the very few humans in human history who has experienced both worlds first hand.
So what she says has way more credibility than what you say. No offense.
That because women need someone to represent them - a man to dress like a woman. Can you help us Boo?
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
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Darn, I flunked.
I may have a slightly more masculine build than she appeared to have, and be about two inches taller, none of which means any merit on my part, because I was simply born this way. In absolutely every other regard, she pwn3d me.
What's "pwn3d" mean?
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
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I have read similar stories from transgenders who went from one gender to another, but transgenders might still be somehow biased - because they always felt they belong to the other gender than the one they were born with.
Norah' story, is the first one I came across about seeing life as a man from a woman's eyes and always self-identified as woman.
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It took me months. Probably a good six months to really get back into being a woman. And this is partly because I had some unpacking to do. It wasn’t just a matter of returning to myself, because I am a different person now than I was before I embarked on this project. I feel more womanly now, more in touch with my femininity, than I ever did before I lived as Ned, and that has taken some getting used to, though it has been very pleasant.
I don’t miss anything about being Ned. The few social advantages I discovered in manhood—the swagger, the self-confidence, the entitlement—I’ve learned to incorporate into my life as a woman. Everything else I was happy to discard.”
-Norah Vincent on being Ned for 1.5 year"
I have to disagree with having "emotional freedom" as a woman. If women are emotional, they are said to be *itchy or having PMS or bipolar.
Well, look how I see it.
She is probably, one of the very few humans in human history who has experienced both worlds first hand.
So what she says has way more credibility than what you say. No offense.
That because women need someone to represent them - a man to dress like a woman. Can you help us Boo?
I am too hairy for that, ask the members who saw my pic how hairy I am.
You know from the book I found out that the way men act is actually because other men expect them to act like that and even their father's brought them up to be "manly". In the section about sex, she hits on the way the men that she hung around thought about women. An example of this was the four "F's" - Find'em, Feel'em, F**k'em, Forget'em.
This book would be good for both sexes to read because she told about both sides of the coin.
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Me grumpy?
I'm happiness challenged.
Your neurodiverse (Aspie) score: 83 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 153 of 200 You are very likely neurotypical
Darn, I flunked.
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