25 Jul 2015, 11:45 am
Spiderpig wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So guys have trouble picking up a date....girls with their easy picking up of dates are more prone to rape, abuse, being taken advantage of for sex ect. all wonderful things the self identified 'forever alones' should be totally jealous of. Oh yeah geting unsolicitated hits on you from guys twice your age who only want sex is great....let me tell you, so much better than being single not 
Being always single and not by choice sucks. We heterosexual male foreveralones envy you because you are desired by a lot of people of the opposite sex, many more than you desire yourself, while we are in the opposite situation: we desire females, and they don't want to have anything to do with us.
The thing is, most men and women (not just WP members) do not really understand the other side's point-of-view, because they have never been in their shoes.
I hear many women tell the guys on this site to "buck it up", quit being so negative, and down on themselves, etc., when they complain about not being able to find a girlfriend, yet many of them have never been in a position, where they were rejected constantly. You can't imagine what this does to your self-esteem, and overall outlook on life. To me, this is a very insensitive thing to say, and shows a real lack of understanding on the woman's part.
And yes, I can totally understand about not wanting to get hit on all the time, especially from people you aren't interested in, but according to many women (not all), it is the guy's job to do the initiating. So tell me, if guys are supposed to be the initiators, how are they supposed to "do their job", if they aren't allowed to show any interest in anybody?
25 Jul 2015, 11:52 am
The message I get is that I should know full well I'm not worthy of any woman's interest, so approaching them serves no other purpose than being annoying at best.
Amity wrote:
LOL.
I think everyone should wear shapewear undergarments... yikes they are uncomfortable, squeezing internal organs and all the related health complications, whats not to love. Equal opportunities for everyone to feel squished!
I think everyone should wear shapewear undergarments... yikes they are uncomfortable, squeezing internal organs and all the related health complications, whats not to love. Equal opportunities for everyone to feel squished!
You know exactly how a lot of us would like to be squished and it's not that way
25 Jul 2015, 12:22 pm
Spiderpig wrote:
The message I get is that I should know full well I'm not worthy of any woman's interest, so approaching them serves no other purpose than being annoying at best.
That must be quite disheartening. Spiderpig wrote:
Amity wrote:
LOL.
I think everyone should wear shapewear undergarments... yikes they are uncomfortable, squeezing internal organs and all the related health complications, whats not to love. Equal opportunities for everyone to feel squished!
I think everyone should wear shapewear undergarments... yikes they are uncomfortable, squeezing internal organs and all the related health complications, whats not to love. Equal opportunities for everyone to feel squished!
You know exactly how a lot of us would like to be squished and it's not that way
Lol, I have no idea what you are talking about, perhaps I should have been clearer, I didn't mean that men should experience a squish, though I think that would be quite nice for anyone to experience, I meant more like this:
You know... squashed!
25 Jul 2015, 1:49 pm
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25 Jul 2015, 2:56 pm
25 Jul 2015, 3:14 pm
^basically, this is most of why I normally prefer to forget 'dates' and just chill...
A female friend of mine mentioned recently that guys experience most of the same hormonal fluctuations as women, only much more rapidly, something I'm inclined to believe. Relationships aren't exactly something I compartmentalize though, I see them as the sum total of multiple people's lives, so I make decisions about them with the ambiguous goal of a nicer future for the few girls I am familiar with. As far as environments go, the modern social landscape isn't very approachable in general, even on the NT end. Sometimes people wind up intensifying a bunch of unwritten rules and it backfires on us. Usually when I can relax enough to account for everyone's perspectives or at least find some encouragement in doing so things work out just fine.
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25 Jul 2015, 3:25 pm
Spiderpig wrote:
Sweetleaf wrote:
So guys have trouble picking up a date....girls with their easy picking up of dates are more prone to rape, abuse, being taken advantage of for sex ect. all wonderful things the self identified 'forever alones' should be totally jealous of. Oh yeah geting unsolicitated hits on you from guys twice your age who only want sex is great....let me tell you, so much better than being single not
Being always single and not by choice sucks. We heterosexual male foreveralones envy you because you are desired by a lot of people of the opposite sex, many more than you desire yourself, while we are in the opposite situation: we desire females, and they don't want to have anything to do with us.
Sweetleaf wrote:
I mean really what do you guys think it is we chicks get so easily, and as if you can go out just dressed in normal casual comfy dress and get a date.....no women are expected to have make up on, wear an outfit that compliments their figure, or use weird undergarmet items to make your body appear more appealing as in the hour glass shape.
And where do you think that pressure comes from? Certainly not from heterosexual male foreveralones---it's not like our tastes matter after all.
The usual complaint is that we like your bodies too much. You can't have it both ways: we like your body much more than what you wrap it in. If I were cuddling with a woman at a nice place, the last thing that would bother me is that she's wearing casual, comfy dress. Even a boilersuit à la 1984 wouldn't rob her of her femininity, especially if she hugged me tightly. And, if she put her legs on top of mine and let me play with her feet, I wouldn't care whether she was wearing stilettos.
Sweetleaf wrote:
Oh and its rude for a women to get offended by some street a** saying 'hey baby you're hot' when they are just trying to go about their buisiness......oh yes women have it so f*****g easy compared to men in all circumstances ever.
Well, I wish my problem were being too hot. But I don't think it's rude for you to get offended.
It would be great for women if all we were out for was sex, but that isn't the case. Women are looking to fill an emotional void and that is definitely harder to find in a person than a sex partner.
25 Jul 2015, 3:42 pm
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25 Jul 2015, 4:19 pm
25 Jul 2015, 4:41 pm
rdos wrote:
Kiriae wrote:
rdos wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
It would be great for women if all we were out for was sex, but that isn't the case. Women are looking to fill an emotional void and that is definitely harder to find in a person than a sex partner.
Exactly, and so are at least a few men as well.
And it's very hard to distinguish if a guy really likes you or just wants to have sex with you.
If you do dating, absolutely. Having sex is expected after a few dates, so that will interfere with knowing whether they like you or not.
The best way to make sure he likes you is to deny him sex until you know for sure.
I had the six month rule before having sex with a guy you're with and some people here accused me of playing a game
25 Jul 2015, 4:44 pm
Spiderpig wrote:
No, you were clear the first time; I was joking.
I know, I understood the word play, my response is in kind 
.League_Girl wrote:
rdos wrote:
Kiriae wrote:
rdos wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
It would be great for women if all we were out for was sex, but that isn't the case. Women are looking to fill an emotional void and that is definitely harder to find in a person than a sex partner.
Exactly, and so are at least a few men as well.And it's very hard to distinguish if a guy really likes you or just wants to have sex with you.
If you do dating, absolutely. Having sex is expected after a few dates, so that will interfere with knowing whether they like you or not.The best way to make sure he likes you is to deny him sex until you know for sure.
I had the six month rule before having sex with a guy you're with and some people here accused me of playing a game
25 Jul 2015, 4:58 pm
League_Girl wrote:
rdos wrote:
Kiriae wrote:
rdos wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
It would be great for women if all we were out for was sex, but that isn't the case. Women are looking to fill an emotional void and that is definitely harder to find in a person than a sex partner.
Exactly, and so are at least a few men as well.
And it's very hard to distinguish if a guy really likes you or just wants to have sex with you.
If you do dating, absolutely. Having sex is expected after a few dates, so that will interfere with knowing whether they like you or not.
The best way to make sure he likes you is to deny him sex until you know for sure.
I had the six month rule before having sex with a guy you're with and some people here accused me of playing a game
I don't see anything wrong with this at all. A few months is no time to really get to know anybody.
25 Jul 2015, 5:02 pm
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25 Jul 2015, 5:10 pm
25 Jul 2015, 5:16 pm
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
A six months of "sex denial"* from a religious girl would be interpreted as a religious reasoning.
*(I would rather calling it "she is not allowing relationship to develop sexually" instead of 'sex denial' because it's not like I am going to feel entitled to it to the point to explicitly demand sex in order to be denied for it in return).
But if it's coming from a non-religious or atheist girl whom I know she has no problem with pre-marital sex, then I would interpret that as an absence or lack of physical attraction from her side toward me - and yeah, that would be a turn off that would ruin the relationship.
*(I would rather calling it "she is not allowing relationship to develop sexually" instead of 'sex denial' because it's not like I am going to feel entitled to it to the point to explicitly demand sex in order to be denied for it in return).
But if it's coming from a non-religious or atheist girl whom I know she has no problem with pre-marital sex, then I would interpret that as an absence or lack of physical attraction from her side toward me - and yeah, that would be a turn off that would ruin the relationship.
Six months sounds like a great idea. That will select-out all the sex-manics for sure. I'd prefer "until I want a child", but six months will be ok too.
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