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14 Aug 2015, 3:48 pm

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Ah no no, if I ask a guy out one on one, that's a date. That's why I'm crafty and organise a way to see him without it being too in your face "I really like you please like me back!! !". Why aren't men as crafty as me? You would at least get to know each other that way with no pressure.

Ok until that moment where you change the pace and ask for the one on one date. But I'm not going to ask the guy for a one on one date until I get some sort of response back from him, otherwise I can only conclude that he doesn't even like me as a human and has no real interest in me.


I still think we talk about the same thing. In the neurodiverse courtship, it's the woman's task to find crafty ways to see him, and often she will ask help from her friends in doing it. She will typically not talk much, not approach and certainly not ask for a date. The man will typically only flirt at a distance, and be at places where he knows the woman might play her game. The next step is the tricky one, and it's the role of the man: He must convince himself that the woman has done her thing in order to break the approach block (and the processing-delay). Once he has done that, he can approach the woman and talk. Although I don't think dating has any role here. It's part of NT courtship.



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14 Aug 2015, 3:52 pm

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hurtloam wrote:
Where does one meet hot guys anyway?

Korea's Next Top Model, I guess.



If it's North Korea, then there's only one Top Model allowed to exist.

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14 Aug 2015, 3:54 pm

Oh oh oh! I'm joking, I'm not looking for hot guys. I just want someone normal. Yeah, I don't go to bars or the gym, well Zumba, but guys don't do Zumba.

What if I'm the good looking one with the good job and that intimidates them. I am from a wealthy family and I have a public school accent. Do you think that might freak out regular guys?

Maybe that's why I never got a second date after that last date I went on. We were talking about our families and I mentioned that I grew up on a country estate and half of my family have villas abroad. Maybe not a good move. I was just telling the truth. I didn't think about how that would come over.

Not sure why I don't hang out with anyone from a similar socio-economic background, but I am quirky and don't fit in with posh people.



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14 Aug 2015, 3:56 pm

Yeah, honestly I wouldn't even try with a girl coming from a wealthy family.



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14 Aug 2015, 3:58 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
If it's North Korea, then there's only one Top Model allowed to exist.

South Korea. Also you might strike gold in Poland's Next Top Model, Vietnam's Next Top Model and maybe a couple of other versions.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:03 pm

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Yeah, honestly I wouldn't even try with a girl coming from a wealthy family.


I would like to think I'm more Miranda Heart/Benedict Cumberbatch goofy and not at all like the Made in Chelsea types. It's not like I have money myself. Even thought I have a good job now, I left home young and struggled for a long time. I'm still getting out of debt from those years actually.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:09 pm

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Yeah, honestly I wouldn't even try with a girl coming from a wealthy family.


I would like to think I'm more Miranda Heart/Benedict Cumberbatch goofy and not at all like the Made in Chelsea types. It's not like I have money myself. Even thought I have a good job now, I left home young and struggled for a long time. I'm still getting out of debt from those years actually.




It doesn't matter, if your family is so known there to be wealthy, you would be assumed to be wealthy too, or at least you will be wealthy after all.
And you would also be assumed that you want someone as wealthy or more.

Why we guys think like that? Because ....we learn these stuff from interactions with women themselves.

So when a wealthy oddball comes to me and claims how she likes me and doesn't care, I would have to be punched in the face to believe it.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:12 pm

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Oh oh oh! I'm joking, I'm not looking for hot guys. I just want someone normal. Yeah, I don't go to bars or the gym, well Zumba, but guys don't do Zumba.

What if I'm the good looking one with the good job and that intimidates them. I am from a wealthy family and I have a public school accent. Do you think that might freak out regular guys?

Maybe that's why I never got a second date after that last date I went on. We were talking about our families and I mentioned that I grew up on a country estate and half of my family have villas abroad. Maybe not a good move. I was just telling the truth. I didn't think about how that would come over.

Not sure why I don't hang out with anyone from a similar socio-economic background, but I am quirky and don't fit in with posh people.


it might scare me away from messaging you . most women like that see me as trash and wont' even talk to me. well non wealthy women see me as the same too. you might even idk you're stance.

if you went on a date with me knowing my situation then while I'd still be worried you'd going dump me. I'd still ask you out on another date. itd be up to you to decide then . women who know my situation or dinf out about it on the first date don't accept the next one.

that would worry me if I'd be good enough for you. like why would you take a guy like me to those places will you be upset or feel embarrassed to be seen with me. the one girl I talked with for a year owned a big farm and I worried about that and turns out I was right. :cry: seems only rich guys will date and marry poor women, it doen't work the other way. but I'd give you every chance til you rejected me. but I'm an odd guys I guess. I tend to be loyal and give me more chances then they maybe deserve

whats Zumba?



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14 Aug 2015, 4:13 pm

There can be many reasons why a guy doesn't ask a girl out. It could be anything from fear of rejection and embarassment, to not being totally sure she is into him. Many girls can be friendly and flirty, even if they aren't interested, so this can make things confusing.

When I am attracted to someone, I automatically assume they are already in a relationship (most of the ones I have liked in the past, were). With me, their interest level would have to be pretty obvious, for me to feel confidant about asking them out.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:13 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
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Yeah, honestly I wouldn't even try with a girl coming from a wealthy family.


I would like to think I'm more Miranda Heart/Benedict Cumberbatch goofy and not at all like the Made in Chelsea types. It's not like I have money myself. Even thought I have a good job now, I left home young and struggled for a long time. I'm still getting out of debt from those years actually.




It doesn't matter, if your family is so known there to be wealthy, you would be assumed to be wealthy too, or at least you will be wealthy after all.
And you would also be assumed that you want someone as wealthy or more.

Why we guys think like that? Because ....we learn these stuff from interactions with women themselves.

So when a wealthy oddball comes to me and claims how she likes me and doesn't care, I would have to be punched in the face to believe it.


yes though I'm perhaps too trusting and naive so I'd believe them mostly :(



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14 Aug 2015, 4:38 pm

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whats Zumba?
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In the old days, in the dedicated gymnastic rooms, there was something called AEROBICS, and while it was more popular among girls back then, a lot of guys attended aerobics classes too, It was a class of pure exercising and gender-neutral.

Nowadays, the aerobics are replaced by new fancy latina aerobatic dances like Zumba, bumba, fight-doo, Oriental, the-hell-I-know...etc which are all basically aerobics with 'sexy' shakira-like ass-shaking feminine movements with loud crazy music, to the extend that straight guys would be so embarrassed and feel so gay to do any of them, hence why you no longer see guys in these new 'aerobic' classes.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:41 pm

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it might scare me away from messaging you . most women like that see me as trash and wont' even talk to me. well non wealthy women see me as the same too. you might even idk you're stance.
whats Zumba?


I'm British, American's are just American's to me, I probably would have no opinion of an American's social class or whatever.

Ah, ha I need to find a chap from another country who just thinks I sound English because that's how actors sound on tv.

Zumba is dance based exercise. Samba and Salsa. I can't dance, so it's mostly jumping around to music and trying not to fall over to me. Boo's description is accurate.



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14 Aug 2015, 4:46 pm

hurtloam wrote:
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it might scare me away from messaging you . most women like that see me as trash and wont' even talk to me. well non wealthy women see me as the same too. you might even idk you're stance.
whats Zumba?


I'm British, American's are just American's to me, I probably would have no opinion of an American's social class or whatever.

Ah, ha I need to find a chap from another country who just thinks I sound English because that's how actors sound on tv.

Zumba is dance based exercise. Samba and Salsa. I can't dance, so it's mostly jumping around to music and trying not to fall over to me. Boo's description is accurate.


I imagine its the same. replace nobitlity wtih rich company owners.

would you date aguy making min wage or less?
or a guy making 20 pounds or less?

I tr to be non judgmental. fyi its mostly women liking British dudes, men mostly like women with southern accents.

some women think i have british accent o.O

men there judge you by your accent?



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14 Aug 2015, 4:53 pm

I like British accents in ladies.

By the way: glad to see you back after a long absence, Hurtloam.



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15 Aug 2015, 3:36 am

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Are men incapable of feeling attracted to a woman unless he thinks she's attracted to him?


Huh? Then I'd have never been attracted to any woman, which is far from true.


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15 Aug 2015, 4:34 am

Some guys just don't have a lot of experience I guess, even in their twenties, it's not uncommon. Even if they are attracted to someone, they don't know what to do with it so they just sit on it for a while, maybe waiting for what may seem to be a perfect opportunity to get to know someone. Usually it never happens and that's that. I've learned that the hard way a few times.