Is life worth living when you're too ugly for girls?
Based solely on your photos I would describe you as an attractive person who has a neat kind of style and look. Definitely not ugly by any means. Your facial expression seems (going only on these photos) unapproachable and disinterested though, which would make it intimidating to initiate a conversation with you.
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Oh my god, dude, you're not ugly!
I clicked on the links expecting to see Charles Laughton as Quasimodo. I was expecting somebody sadly plain or disfigured.
Jeez you're totally normal and you even have really "regular" uniform facial features that I don't think anyone in the world would stare at thinking "OMG that poor ugly guy."
Seriously, you have completely "nice" looks.
A someone mentioned above, everything works, in your appearance. You dress nicely, your haircut is nice, your face is nice. It's just that maybe more of a smile might help -- I'm not saying people should walk around with a foolish grin, but you look like you're actively scowling in the pictures, so maybe maybe maybe you could work on "un"-scowling your features, maybe trying a very slight smile expression to lighten up the "dark and cloudy" look.
But that's the ONLY thing I can see that might put off a girl from wanting to talk to you, and that would be the same for any human; people are more concerned with whether or not someone's facial expressions look actively angry, scowling or unfriendly, rather than how handsome or pretty they are. Humans respond to good looks and the exceptionally beautiful, yes, but they also respond to pleasant facial expressions no matter what the actual physical face is like. A scowl even on someone who looks like Angelina Jolie or Brad Pitt would make someone think twice about how nice they might be to chat to.
But other than that -- you aren't ugly by ANY standards. Seriously.
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Now, I don't know what you look like, but truly, there's someone for everyone.
UPDATE I JUST SAW YOUR PIC! Darn it! It's a shame you're so young, my super pretty sister would date you in a heartbeat! You are NOT ugly at ALL!! !
My cousin is in his late 40s, was skinny, super tall, glasses, not a pretty smile, etc. and served in the Peace Corps. A very smart guy, but neve had many girlfriends. Yes, although LATER than the rest of us, eventually he did have a couple of girlfriends and got married. So, no, you are NOT too ugly to find a girl. I know some people who I don't consider cute in any way, yet they have been married for many years and their wives think they are the hottest thing around...and their wives are pretty nice looking ladies. You need to find people to hang out with who share your same passions. In Dallas, Texas for example, I know that one Museum does science nights once a month, cocktails and all! There are comic book places that have game nights/days and if you like that, go there. Find what you like and I promise you, that you will find a girl.
PS most guys claim they love a pretty smile on a girl, I have had a gap in my teeth ALL MY LIFE which made me very self-conscious...some guys I liked didn't pay attention to me, but others did...I am married now over 16 years together and actually the darn gap I was so concerned about was NOTHING in comparison to today lol yet my husband still loves me and I still have a few admirers...go figure!
so he got his first girlfriend when he was over 30?
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It's definitely the OP's depressive/negative thoughts and self perception.
All my life I've been told I'm good looking, but my perception was that relatives would say these things out of obligation and I believed I was unattractive. It's only over the last handful of years that I've realized it was my own thoughts that made me feel this way. I still don't think very highly of my appearance, but I don't think negatively of it, either. Kind of neutral. So, it's a bit of a pleasant surprise when I hear compliments from others on my appearance or physical fitness. It's a reminder, also, that perception is reality and that what I think of myself doesn't matter - it's what others perceive me as that dictates what they think of me.. whether aesthetically or professionally etc.
I had one coworker tell me last year that when she met me as a construction worker at the time she thought "where do they get these construction workers? Abercrombie & Fitch??" That was a very pleasant surprise of a compliment. Another young (hot) female coworker (at the bar/restaurant I work at that I helped construct), on a nude beach this Summer, said "here's Rich with The Body!" which again was a pleasant surprise.. and I told her so, kind of, as this is about the best shape I've ever been in and I don't spend any time looking at myself or thinking about what I look like, so never think of myself as the guy with "The Body" but it was kinda nice to hear as well as kind of awkward as I don't want to be made to feel self conscious about having to look good or anything etc. I've received other compliments from random strangers on that beach all Summer, too. A cook at work said my Halloween costume choice was fitting (King Leonidas - I've grown a beard out for a few months for it.) because I'm "shredded." I don't consider myself shredded exactly, but it was interesting to hear someone else' perception of my as that. Non aesthetic things, too.. I know I can do various work/professional things, but to hear a 0.1%er in terms of wealth state that "you are a salesman," - that was nice to know that's his assessment of me even though I didn't really think I was quite there yet myself. I'm not negative about my appearance or skill sets etc, just very neutral.. and I know I need to be more confident in them in order to truly leverage them all to my advantage in life/work/career/relationships/business etc. Bit by bit I'm working on that.
Anyways, my point is that it doesn't matter what I think of myself with all of these things, it matters what others think of me as that's what shapes their perceptions and realities. If others are telling you you're completely normal looking, or good looking etc, then THAT IS REALITY and your own thoughts and negative perceptions of yourself are simply flat out wrong and caused by depression. What the OP needs to do is figure out the cause of and solution to his negative depressive thoughts are & fix that first and foremost vs. anything aesthetic.
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Blatantly a self esteem issue here. What's probably driving girls off is the scowl, not your looks. A lot of people with half you looks get dates, so you are not at all "ugly". I think looking... mean when being neutral is probably more detrimental to us guys, as we are usually associated with violence. Your height probably amplifies the meanness.
As others have mentioned, really try to smile or at least try not to look so... grumpy. I know its hard, man.
I used to (and if I'm not thinking, still am) look grumpy/angry all the time. People who know me are aware that I am actually neutral, but to absolute strangers, I look like someone who would only say "f**k off", hence people rarely talk to me.
Heck, since I tried looking less pissed-off (practiced in front of mirror, asked friends to remind me etc), more people seem to greet me. Hell, a new girl in my lab kept talking to me (for no good reason). I'm pretty sure if I was wearing my usual "death face", she probably wouldn't even approach me...
Actually, your situation is normal. Most young guys aren't getting much of anything. If you're not familiar with it, I'd suggest you look up the 80/20 rule. My guess is your friends are in that lucky 20%. Or just exaggerating their success. Probably a combination of both.
You definitely aren't ugly, but you also don't look like the kind of guy who'd do well with young, slender chicks. Totally average for your age. You could try getting really lean (like 8-10% body fat) and see if that helps. That's where I'm at. Hasn't changed my dating situation one bit, but maybe you'll be different. *shrugs*
Don't get too worked up over this. Find a good escort agency in your city and book maybe a couple sessions a month. The sex is usually better than what you'd get with normal girls anyway, especially if you're relatively young and have a ripped body. Most hooker clients are old and fat, so you'll be a breath of fresh air to them. I did this smoking hot 20 year old Russian hooker the other day, and it felt so good that I wanted to cry.
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You definitely aren't ugly, but you also don't look like the kind of guy who'd do well with young, slender chicks. Totally average for your age. You could try getting really lean (like 8-10% body fat) and see if that helps. That's where I'm at. Hasn't changed my dating situation one bit, but maybe you'll be different. *shrugs*
Don't get too worked up over this. Find a good escort agency in your city and book maybe a couple sessions a month. The sex is usually better than what you'd get with normal girls anyway, especially if you're relatively young and have a ripped body. Most hooker clients are old and fat, so you'll be a breath of fresh air to them. I did this smoking hot 20 year old Russian hooker the other day, and it felt so good that I wanted to cry.
ya, I guess that's the only way for guys who are unable to get it
You definitely aren't ugly, but you also don't look like the kind of guy who'd do well with young, slender chicks. Totally average for your age. You could try getting really lean (like 8-10% body fat) and see if that helps. That's where I'm at. Hasn't changed my dating situation one bit, but maybe you'll be different. *shrugs*
Don't get too worked up over this. Find a good escort agency in your city and book maybe a couple sessions a month. The sex is usually better than what you'd get with normal girls anyway, especially if you're relatively young and have a ripped body. Most hooker clients are old and fat, so you'll be a breath of fresh air to them. I did this smoking hot 20 year old Russian hooker the other day, and it felt so good that I wanted to cry.
ya, I guess that's the only way for guys who are unable to get it
Don't pay for sex - it's basically conceding that you think you're such a vile and repulsive guy that no one will ever voluntarily have sex with you. If prostitution's illegal in your jurisdiction, you'll have no way of knowing if the girl you pay is a sex worker of her own free will, ie not an exploitedchild ("child prostitute"), trafficked, too scared to leave, under thumb of pimp, etc.
You might one day find a proper girlfriend who may well dump you for having been the pathetic exploitative lowlife who paid for sex. That goes triple if you pay to lose your virginity to a hooker.
I keep reading things like this in this subforum and sometimes I try to be silent, but it's really making my blood boil. We don't have to be their doormats and if she is such a judgy prude she might not be worth being with. I don't go to whores but I'd rather do it than be with someone like that.
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