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cathylynn wrote:
drinking diet soda DOES help. i got my fiance to switch from regular pepsi to diet and he lost ten pounds with no other changes. sweeteners have been unfairly demonized.
Diet probably helps lose weight more than regular soda, but some of the weird chemicals in diet are likely bad if consumed a lot in the long term. That's why it's best to alternate between diet and regular soda. Some sodas also have a 10 calorie version which tastes closer to the regular stuff, like Dr. Pepper for example.
I personally think giving up or almost giving up soft drink in general is the way to go. I only have it in the rare occasional event e.g. parties etc. and only if there's nothing else to drink. Even diet and 'sugar-free' has so many strange chemicals and other issues.
I only drink milk (good protein and fats source) and water.
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I disagree. Being fat and planning to become fit is just like being unemployed and planning to get a job. People won't generally look at your intent, or what might happen in the future. They look at who you are then and there. Just like when investors are planning to invest in a company. They don't invest at a valuation of what it will be worth in the future. They look at how much it's worth today.
From a superficial point of view yes, but once someone might get to know you they will realize at least you are trying.
It might not always result in a healthy and fit person in being interested in you romantically or phyiscally, but at the very least you should at least earn their respect/admiration.
You'd be quite surprised. Usually bodybuilders and other health-dedicated people don't judge a fat person in the gym (a generalization, yes, but just go onto the actual forums and you'd see it's true), but silently applaud them. The fat man on the treadmill is not silly and not something to laugh at, but to respect - he's doing more than the fat man sitting at home on the couch shoving bad foods down his mouth all day.
But I think someone who wants to be healthier but is not only being ungrateful for help but also doing it
wrong (by thinking they must have a healthy diet just because they have 'a salad and diet coke here and there' instead of actually looking into what they eat and counting their nutrients, etc., or doing exercises incorretly and becoming frustrated when someone tries to help them) is not something I respect.
I'm an example myself. I'm not a 'man' but a teen but I work hard to eat well and strength train 5 days a week, anyway the girls i've been attracted to or dated usually skinny (which isn't always 'healthy') with high metabolism and eat extremely unhealthy/don't exercise but I accept them for how they are but hey if they ever wanted help I'd give it.
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^^ agree with the this, this to a degree. However, I also think how one chooses to define "fat" is worth considering - the stupid BMI chart (height/weight ratio that kicks out a number telling you if you're under, healthy, overweight or obese) is incredibly imprecise. There are tons of people who are supposedly overweight / underweight according to that chart but are perfectly healthy in real life. Plus plenty of different height/weight ratio charts out there.
(I'm from a family of stringbeans and am healthy/proportional despite a BMI of 16.5 that technically makes me severely underweight. The WHO's global chart says I'm overweight. I'm not).
The BMI system is notoriously flawed, especially to the bodybuilding community, who usually are in the overweight range of the BMI.
The BMI just doesn't differntiate weight from muscle and weight from fat.
I don't really know of any good, accurate alternatives though. If I could I'd make the system so that if your body fat percentage and lean body mass (your muslce) ratio is 3:1, you're overweight.
For example I'm about 65kg, and my LBM is about 58. So 7kg of my body weight is fat. If that was 43.32kg instead (2/3rds of my bodyweight) would make sense as overweight imo.
Just like a 120kg bodybuilder with 8% body fat, his LBM would be about 100kg, and 20kgs of his weight body fat. But if it was 80 instead (120/3 x 2)? Overweight.
Again, this idea would also have many flaws.
I'm 5'11 and maybe 110-115 lbs... healthy but skinny (though I think I look better about 15 lbs heavier, which isn't really in the cards. It super hard for me to put on weight, so I'm assuming it's equally hard for others to lose it).
My BF is slightly chubby, maybe 20 lbs overweight, and I think he's hot just as he is. He thinks I'm hot just the way I am (and I'm built like a 10 yo boy!).
There's a LOT of wiggle room around both fit AND fat. I do think hardcore athletes/workout folks probably are happier dating each other -- I can think of nothing less fun than a partner that eschews cheese, wine and chocolate and expects me to work out 5x per week!
22 Nov 2015, 7:41 am
