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03 Mar 2016, 7:54 pm

Just don't try too hard, my friend. Just be yourself.

You seem like an okay bloke.

Have you ever posted your music here on WP?



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03 Mar 2016, 8:15 pm

Posting on reddit impressions is the exact place where I wouldn't be able to get an objective opinion, as that's the place where neckbeard geeky atheist congregate.

I see nothing wrong with dressing a bit sharply, it's simply how I enjoy dressing. My clothes fit and match, unlike some of the fedora males I see who wear it with jean shorts and a regular t-shirt.

Here's a pic of me dressing 'normal' http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=2lu44k2&s=9

I like to think I come across relatively neutral, but since the main attention I get is from these types:

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=scho ... Z0PhKkM%3A

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=scho ... jCKnSLM%3A

I think I must come across in a way to them that maybe they think I'm 'one of them'. Back in school the popular kids were also very welcoming to me and treated me as an equal, but I just didn't fit in with them. Meanwhile the nerd/geek crowd I hung out with decided to turn around and betray me after high school. I think I know which crowd I should have went with in the end.



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03 Mar 2016, 8:18 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Just don't try too hard, my friend. Just be yourself.

You seem like an okay bloke.

Have you ever posted your music here on WP?


Thanks. And a few short demos to my youtube, yeah, but I don't post online too much. I'm working on being a bit skilled first before sharing anything major.



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03 Mar 2016, 8:23 pm

You do come across like a bro on your other picture. I can see why you're attracting that type. I guess there's no good vintage stores where you live. Once you move you may be able to find some cool vintage stores and start coming across like a sharp hipster.


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03 Mar 2016, 8:45 pm

Exactly.

I look like a bro, the kind of guy that might like partying and drinking and clubbing and all that, and to be honest I am a bit of a bro - I'm ambiverted and can handle some drinking, clubbing and partying, and I'm good friends with a bro.

I do work out and, while not absolutely ripped, have a decent physique for a 17 year old. I am mildly sporty and like parkour.

I can be friends with the bro crowd, but I'd just never want to date the females the bro's usually hang out with - the shallow, uptight women with very few real interests. But they're usually what I attract.

It seems nerds/geeks can look like one without any sort of effort. You can instantly recognize one when you see them. This might sound bad of me to say, but maybe I just look 'too good' to come across as one - nerds/geeks are usually out-of-shape and less hygienic looking. At least, steretypically compared to 'bros'.

What do you mean 'thrift stores in my area'?

Funny enough my clothes in my profile are thrift store clothes.

If you have suggestions for how I could come across the way I'd like to, I really have no idea what you'd have in mind and what exact clothing I could wear to come across how my personality is.

My personality is: Electronic musician (Trance/retro/classic stuff, not modern crap), likes acting, writing, reads harry potter, sci-fi, philosophy books, video games I like are Harry Potter, Sims, Halo, I like parkour and working out, I'm a new ager. I'm not truly a geek at all - I'm not your otaku anime-loving sci-fi fantasy convention-loving gamer type. My best friend is, and has introduced me to a lot of it, and I like it all slightly. I'm also friends with a 'bro', and he's the sporty one who I can play sports with or club with or go to EDM festivals with.

I feel my problem truly is, is that I'm not some specific stereotype but a 'jack of all trades, master of none' mix of a nerd, bro, hipster, hippy, regular person, etc.

I can be friends with a surprisingly diverse amount of people, and simply show the parts of my personality that best conform to the situation - e.g. I show my 'bro' side around other bros and hide my geek side, and do the opposite with geeky friends.



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03 Mar 2016, 10:55 pm

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Exactly.

I look like a bro, the kind of guy that might like partying and drinking and clubbing and all that, and to be honest I am a bit of a bro - I'm ambiverted and can handle some drinking, clubbing and partying, and I'm good friends with a bro.

I do work out and, while not absolutely ripped, have a decent physique for a 17 year old. I am mildly sporty and like parkour.

I can be friends with the bro crowd, but I'd just never want to date the females the bro's usually hang out with - the shallow, uptight women with very few real interests. But they're usually what I attract.

It seems nerds/geeks can look like one without any sort of effort. You can instantly recognize one when you see them. This might sound bad of me to say, but maybe I just look 'too good' to come across as one - nerds/geeks are usually out-of-shape and less hygienic looking. At least, steretypically compared to 'bros'.

What do you mean 'thrift stores in my area'?

Funny enough my clothes in my profile are thrift store clothes.

If you have suggestions for how I could come across the way I'd like to, I really have no idea what you'd have in mind and what exact clothing I could wear to come across how my personality is.

My personality is: Electronic musician (Trance/retro/classic stuff, not modern crap), likes acting, writing, reads harry potter, sci-fi, philosophy books, video games I like are Harry Potter, Sims, Halo, I like parkour and working out, I'm a new ager. I'm not truly a geek at all - I'm not your otaku anime-loving sci-fi fantasy convention-loving gamer type. My best friend is, and has introduced me to a lot of it, and I like it all slightly. I'm also friends with a 'bro', and he's the sporty one who I can play sports with or club with or go to EDM festivals with.

I feel my problem truly is, is that I'm not some specific stereotype but a 'jack of all trades, master of none' mix of a nerd, bro, hipster, hippy, regular person, etc.

I can be friends with a surprisingly diverse amount of people, and simply show the parts of my personality that best conform to the situation - e.g. I show my 'bro' side around other bros and hide my geek side, and do the opposite with geeky friends.

There's a difference between thrift stores and vintage stores. Thrift stores usually have clothing that is five years old. Vintage stores have clothing that is older and cooler. Try looking at American Apparel for ideas. They're expensive, but they will give you a good idea on how to dress. Another issues you might have is your hair style and facial hair. I think that's what's making you look like a bro.


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04 Mar 2016, 1:48 am

I thank you for the advice, but I generally like the fashion and way I dress now. I'm just being myself but both styles probably come across how I don't want them to. I don't want to have to completely change my look just to appeal to what I'm looking for.

And American Apparel http://store.americanapparel.net/new_cat33157 looks like crap to me.

And, no, I just don't think the 'hipster' look is for me, which is what American Apparell comes across to me as.

That just means I'll attract hipster women, and I'm mostly turned off by them.

Besides, some of the clothes on that website, such as V-neck t-shirts, just make you look even MORE like a bro in Australia, as those type of shirts, and a lot of the shorts and pants on that website are fashionable among bros.

Thing is, even when I dress fancy like in my profile picture, I still attract bro males as friends and 'diva' females (for lack of a better term) for friendships or relationships, so it must be less my fashion but actual behavior and body language.

I have no idea what could make me come across that way to them. But it's been that way my whole life, every high school where I've been a new student, every situation where I meet new people my age, the first day the bro's are drawn to me and try to welcome me, the weed smokers, the douches, the laidback guys, the jocks, the party animals, the clubbers, etc. while the nerds/geeks or more 'normal' people don't give me the time of day, and some have a very snobby and uptight attitude towards me.

I'm not disgusting, I'm not rude or anything. At most I'm a bit rough-mannered and not mild-mannered or a sensitive softy.

Maybe I come across a little hypermasculine/alpha male like the other bros, but I always feel like the most intelligent, mature, level-headed and voice of reason when I hang out with them.

Anyway, I'm very happy and flattered I get attention from these types - it must mean I look attractive and confident, as the bros and divas are usually the types that are popular in high school and university life, it's just the women I'm not interested in any more than friendships.

I want the cute, shy, nerdy adorkable gal. I want girls similar to my ex-girlfriend...

I think nerdy females just aren't interested anyway. In my experiences, most I've come across have been very Feminist and like a skinny and slightly effeminate nice guy male. One just as nerdy/geeky they are and very silly in their humor. I am not that guy and never will be.



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04 Mar 2016, 2:48 am

Fine. You can hate on American Apparel all you want. I guess it's your haircut and facial hair. What makes you a new ager anyways? Maybe you should go hang out with other new agers.


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04 Mar 2016, 2:54 am

You're too dark for a Brit descendant, what's your ethnicity?



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04 Mar 2016, 3:35 am

"Fine. You can hate on American Apparel all you want. I guess it's your haircut and facial hair. What makes you a new ager anyways? Maybe you should go hang out with other new agers."

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound aggressive over it if that's what you think. I can see why you suggested it.

I was a little agitated before over unrelated things, rough day and all.

That look just isn't to my taste, that's all. A.A makes me think of lumberjack bearded, plaid t-shirt, man-bun, skinny jean, v-neck t-shirt hipster look. That's never going to be my style. For all I know, it could just be because the models really aren't that good-looking at all and it doesn't fit any of them.

The only reason I call myself a 'hipster' is my non-mainstream taste in music, books, movies, etc.

What makes me a new-ager? My beliefs. A mix of Agnosticism, Indigenous beliefs, spiritualism, and a few of the other New Age beliefs.

If I seem aggressive for a new ager, I'm not always this way. I'm a walking contradiction sometimes, and when I'm calm and relaxed come across as very 'hippy' in many ways.

That wouldn't be a bad idea, though there's not many to meet at age 17. Even the 'hippy' girls are usually weed smoking candy raver rainbow girl types and not genuine hippies (vegan, new ager, organic eater, environmentalist, green-living, etc.)

I just feel hopeless, that's all because I seem to be destined to attract the wrong crowd for me. I get plenty of attention for my looks from the opposite sex, but they're just never my type.

I'm trying to change my fashion/style, but I thought I already did. You agree I look like a geeky type guy when I'm all dressed up, but it makes no difference. My facebook profile picture is the same as this one and yet my Tinder matches are still surfer dude bros from the nearby coast or diva women, and they're still the people who approach me.

At the very least, I want to appear neutral to the point no one could possibly guess my personality whatsoever or make assumptions about me. Would you know how I could do that?

Face of Boo: 1/4 Indigenous Australian, 3/4s white. It seems to give me an advantage as I can attract other Mixed race australian females.



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04 Mar 2016, 11:50 am

Sorry I sounded aggressive. It was just late at night.


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04 Mar 2016, 8:39 pm

It's just if I want to change my style, it has to be stuff I like.

I've done some research and found a few styles I'd like, but some feedback would be good. I'll show some pics of some styles I like, and my attempts at copying or imitating some of them:

1. Nate Reuss - Suit, dress pants and dress shirt. http://www3.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/Nate ... Da3uTl.jpg

Me: http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... h4l5k2TGxc
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... to5iYx97h4

2. Man with casual dress shirt and dress pants or jeans: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/23 ... c3ff08.jpg
http://blog.gotstyle.ca/wp-content/uplo ... sing-5.jpg

Me: http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... to6TIx97h4
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... to6TIx97h4

3. Jason Mraz - I'm Yours music video: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/3undoxJ1F8M/hqdefault.jpg
http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos ... 62-330.jpg

Me: http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... h4l5k2TGxc
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... to6Dox97h4
http://tinypic.com/usermedia.php?uo=uW4 ... to6EIx97h4

I'll make a new thread on this, as this is a new topic entirely....If I look like a bro that's just dressed for a job interview in most of these pics, it's definitely the facial hair and head hair.



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05 Mar 2016, 1:20 am

For the first ones, you should iron your shirt. You're doing a pretty good job of copying Jason Mraz's style. You should get better sunglasses. It will make your outfits look way better.


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05 Mar 2016, 3:16 am

DevilKisses wrote:
You should get better sunglasses. It will make your outfits look way better.

Yes, with it fully agree!



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05 Mar 2016, 3:39 am

What kind do you suggest?

My thoughts:

1. I thought white glasses with blue tint look pretty cool and fit with my clothes decently.

2. Non-perscription, clear, 'hipster' glasses are a no.

3. Sunglasses are ideal, just not sure what kind.



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05 Mar 2016, 4:00 am

Rayban or club master style sunglasses work pretty well for most people. The sunglasses you're wearing right now make you look like a neckbeard. They're only really acceptable when you're riding a bike or playing sports.


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