Physical Attractiveness - Nature vs Nurture

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I was in love with a woman who was about 250 to 300 pounds many years ago. I loved her personality and she had a pleasant face. And she could perfectly imitate the voice of a cartoon chipmunk and Jiggly Puff on Pokémon. Not that I generally ever watch that cartoon. But it was very cute.

I never ended up asking her out, and we moved on. I have only ever been friends with women, and really nothing more.

But still, there are some physically ugly people who are very pretty inside. Their souls are attractive. And there are super models that are incredibly ugly underneath all that makeup and plastic surgery. Because they are mean nasty personalities. Not all super models, I suppose.

Looks are very secondary to me. And there are many things a person can do with their bodies that can make them more physically attractive of they are not. Having healthy teeth, good hygiene, nice modest clothing, nicely kept hair, good diet and exercise all play an important role. And also a nice smile and countenance.

Generally, judging beauty by how a person physically appears is a very shallow perspective.

I'm a bigger guy myself so I personally prefer bigger women who are my size. I last girlfriend was really skinny and I found her super attractive. I really don't care too much about weight. I also think a lot of bigger women out there underestimate their attractiveness. Despite the media's constant pressure for women to be skinny, there are plenty of guys like who like curvier women.

Do women like young guys who went bald? Do they care at all?

I was showing a shiny spot by age 20, by 25 I was bald all the way up to the back of my head. I never got comfortable with it.

Some girls like bald men...it's a fact.

It is Johnny Rotten

Just my way of saying personality is a lot more attractive than some aesthetic template anyone can follow.

My boyfriend is 21 and has a bit of a balding spot (it runs in his family). I can't say I'm attracted to it but I don't even notice it because it is just part of him.

I love his little imperfections like his wonky smile, his thick eyebrows and his scars.

My point is that someone who loves you will love the things you don't like about yourself. I hate my full on smile but my boyfriend likes it.

If that's you in the avatar: you have very pretty and full lips. No wonder why your boyfriend likes your smile.

My full on grin isn't great, when I smile my eyes go all squinty and it's a really toothy grin. Also because I hit my head when my teeth were coming though my 2 front teeth have marks on them

I think when you have low self esteem like alot of us on here it's difficult to realise that people either like or don't actually care about there little imperfectons.

I am guilty of over thinking about people's views

Your smile is cute because it's not totally perfect. It's unique.

I have one tooth missing in the front. And my lips are very small. Still, people like my smile.

For ladies, if you can somehow unambiguously communicate to a guy that you find him physically attractive and wouldn't mind having some private time with him, then he may start finding you attractive even if he wouldn't have thought of you that way otherwise. Especially if he's not the sort that gets that sort of offer every day.

I know because it happened to me.

Admittedly a lot of folks here aren't keen on the idea of starting things at the physical level, but so far as I am concerned, it's a legitimate starting point nonetheless.

Sorry I don't have similar advice for guys except try to be more open-minded as to what women to consider as prospective partners, given their "looks."

Is it not the same for guys aswell.

Assuming I correctly understand your response - no, it's not the same. There are basically 2 possibilities:
1.) She already considers herself attractive and tells the guy to sod off.
2.) She doesn't consider herself attractive and so assumes the guy is trying to take advantage of her, and tells him to sod off.

Hahaa that's a bit presumptuous. What am I if I don't fit in those options?

This wasn't meant to be about you, exactly, but what if indeed? Given the two options, is there a third? or a fourth? Please feel free to add options!

I meant presumptuous about women. I can't speak for all women but I know many of us are happy to consider a guy we may not initially consider attractive.

I was always happy to talk to someone whatever they looked at. To get to know them. I only told them to sod off If they were rude or only wanted sex

You know alot of women appreciate personality over looks. I wouldnt want to be with a good looking douche

Please let me restate my original comment. So a guy meets a girl whom he does not find especially attractive, but then she makes evident to him the fact that he is physically attractive to her. I mean strictly in the physical sense. After which, his whole attitude towards her changes, and he wants to be with her as much as he can. I know this can happen because it happened to me. I don't think it would happen to a guy who has never had much problem finding female companionship.

So my second point was that I don't believe the opposite to be true, that a girl would change her mind about a guy once he explained to her that he was attracted to her physically. I presented what I believed to be the two most likely scenarios in that situation. I will admit there might be outliers.

As for guys "just wanting sex" which is the usual complaint, I can recall two situations in which a female propositioned me for just this reason, in fact I learned later that one of them didn't even especially like me. But I cooperated without giving it a second thought. So males and females are definitely different in that regard.