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28 Jun 2016, 2:31 pm

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So....this thread turned into a public stoning and shaming of a guy just because he rejected a Nice girl for whatever reason?

And because he ghosted her for whatever reason?

People, ..... flash shokcing news for you: men also have the right to reject or to ghost a nice woman, any woman. Regardless if the reason of this rejection is good or silly - no one has to justify for a rejection.


Then that means there should be no more threads in the L&D section complaining from men how women always want a man who is their equal or higher in job, money and status. These women should not have to justify why or made to feel ashamed by men who don't measure up to these qualities. So no more threads for you Boo! :mrgreen:


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28 Jun 2016, 2:41 pm

I think the critique is justified in some cases. Like this one.

The rejection is not a problem. Its certainly his right. But in his situation just makes 0 sense. So something seems rotten in this guys denmark.

The main thing is him then treating her badly after rejecting her. Thats plain jerk.



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28 Jun 2016, 4:52 pm

Hi guys,
Thanks for the messages. Just to clarify: I respect and understand that he is not interested and do not mean to impose in any way. I just put off telling him for so long because I was afraid myself. The thing that convinced me ultimately was my best friends telling me that he was known as Mr Desperate and that I would probably be doing him the biggest favour of his life... I was so afraid and deep inside didn't think he would say yes anyway. But I was shocked though by the manner in which he blatantly said he wasn't interested... I'm just trying to understand the dichotomy in his behaviour, that's all. And was only hoping to perhaps get some ideas from people who have been in similar situation. That also means getting feedback on what I might have done wrong to invoke such a reaction! I really in no way seek to stone & shame him. He has every right. I just want to make sure I don't make the same mistake again if it was something I might have done... I still care for him and enough to respect that he doesn't appreciate my presence. In fact I think he pretty much loathes me since I told him... but then again it might just be the confrontation with a difficult situation that throws him off when I am around. I considered that perhaps he 'wants' something and is ok fishing for it on a superficial level via flirting, but then when things get real he finds it hard to handle maybe? That's what I would be feeling if I behaved like that... Just trying to get pointers so I don't f**k up again, that's all :) thanks for all the replies! x



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28 Jun 2016, 4:54 pm

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So....this thread turned into a public stoning and shaming of a guy just because he rejected a Nice girl for whatever reason?

And because he ghosted her for whatever reason?

People, ..... flash shokcing news for you: men also have the right to reject or to ghost a nice woman, any woman. Regardless if the reason of this rejection is good or silly - no one has to justify for a rejection.


Then that means there should be no more threads in the L&D section complaining from men how women always want a man who is their equal or higher in job, money and status. These women should not have to justify why or made to feel ashamed by men who don't measure up to these qualities. So no more threads for you Boo! :mrgreen:


Complaining =/= shaming.
Complaining and discussing about certain trends in a whole society is one thing, but shaming one specific person who did nothing wrong is another thing.
You can totally complain about common things in men, or about one specific man.



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28 Jun 2016, 4:56 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
So....this thread turned into a public stoning and shaming of a guy just because he rejected a Nice girl for whatever reason?

And because he ghosted her for whatever reason?

People, ..... flash shokcing news for you: men also have the right to reject or to ghost a nice woman, any woman. Regardless if the reason of this rejection is good or silly - no one has to justify for a rejection.


Then that means there should be no more threads in the L&D section complaining from men how women always want a man who is their equal or higher in job, money and status. These women should not have to justify why or made to feel ashamed by men who don't measure up to these qualities. So no more threads for you Boo! :mrgreen:


Complaining =/= shaming.
Complaining and discussing about certain trends in a whole society is one thing, but shaming one specific person who did nothing wrong is another thing.
You can totally complain about common things in men, or about one specific man.


No way. When men complain in L&D they are most of the time stereotyping women as a group. If they want to complain about one woman, then that is fine - like what was done here.


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28 Jun 2016, 5:01 pm

^^
Anyway, I am adopting the same policy of 'defending my gender' like many of you WP ladies always did. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

ie. for example, I am gonna report any post where you forget to put the word many or some before the word men because....OMG it's a sin that must be punished for!! ;)
No mercy from now one!



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28 Jun 2016, 5:06 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^
Anyway, I am adopting the same policy of 'defending my gender' like many of you WP ladies always did. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

ie. for example, I am gonna report any post where you forget to put the word many or some before the word men because....OMG it's a sin that must be punished for!! ;)
No mercy from now one!


That's why I put in "most of the time".
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28 Jun 2016, 5:09 pm

nurseangela wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^
Anyway, I am adopting the same policy of 'defending my gender' like many of you WP ladies always did. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

ie. for example, I am gonna report any post where you forget to put the word many or some before the word men because....OMG it's a sin that must be punished for!! ;)
No mercy from now one!


That's why I put in "most of the time".
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28 Jun 2016, 5:13 pm

Oh my god... What have I done :p Seriously though everyone, I genuinely didn't mean for this to turn into a gender thing. Sorry!



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28 Jun 2016, 5:18 pm

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Oh my god... What have I done :p Seriously though everyone, I genuinely didn't mean for this to turn into a gender thing. Sorry!


You're a new user, so this...history is not your fault.

But just to give you a hint, if the genders were inverted in this same scenario (Guy complaining about a desperate girl who rejected him and ghosted him), the usual users would have poped up, to defend the girl and attack the guy, even some male users would have sided with her; and they would call the guy entitled or butthurt.



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28 Jun 2016, 5:29 pm

Nell75 wrote:
Oh my god... What have I done :p Seriously though everyone, I genuinely didn't mean for this to turn into a gender thing. Sorry!


You must be new around here...

Basically, any thread in the L+D section turns into a gender thing. It's not all that surprising, since this is a site for people who, as a group, often have miserable dating experiences (even more so than the general population).

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I just want to make sure I don't make the same mistake again...


It sounded like he had a lot of issues. I can't really say without knowing you or him, but so far it sounds like it was all him. Try not to take the rejection too personally. That's the point of asking someone, to find out what they think. Whatever answer they give is probably more about them than about you.



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28 Jun 2016, 5:31 pm

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Basically, any thread in the L+D section turns into a gender thing


....and Hitler....there's always Hitler.



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28 Jun 2016, 5:45 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^
Anyway, I am adopting the same policy of 'defending my gender' like many of you WP ladies always did. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:

We gots ta rise up against the matriarchy!


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29 Jun 2016, 1:06 am

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hi all,

I've been having a long crush on a guy (we both have AS). I've been afraid to approach him because I really felt very serious about him. After a few months I finally took the step to kindly tell him how I felt in an email... He rejected me. I accepted this of course, but I really have questions. He is very very desperate for a girlfriend, he will ask anyone out (always gets rejected himself), he tries very hard to be tactile with girls (although it does look 'wooden') so basically, he goes out of his way to try and get girls. Sadly I know those girls are laughing behind his back, which really hurts to see. They think he's weird and not 'relationship material' and that he's just trying desperately to prove he can have a girl...

What I just don't understand is why he wouldn't even give me a chance if he is so desperate? We are friends (not close) but had enough chances to see our interests & characters matched, I'm good-looking (I'm told) and I really felt a connection here. If I didn't I never would have approached him...

I feel so bad about myself now... He completely ignores me and even gets angry at me when he sees me now. I'm avoiding all contact... all I see is him making a fool of himself in front of other girls from a distance... I feel so sad.

What's so bad about me that even someone so desperate wouldn't give me a chance? I care so much for him. I never was clingy or pushy or anything like that :-(

If anyone has experienced similar situations, your advice is welcome :) thank you!


He is probably not desperate for a girlfriend..any girlfriend. It's more likely that he is desperate for a girlfriend he has chemistry with, and he just doesn't feel that chemistry with you.

I understand you are probably very hurt by his rejection. Try to understand though, that relationships are about two people, and in a healthy relationship, neither person is in it just to be with someone. There must be mutual attraction, and people don't really control who they are attracted to and have chemistry with.



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29 Jun 2016, 1:09 am

TomS wrote:
I think the critique is justified in some cases. Like this one.

The rejection is not a problem. Its certainly his right. But in his situation just makes 0 sense. So something seems rotten in this guys denmark.

The main thing is him then treating her badly after rejecting her. Thats plain jerk.


He should not have treated her poorly, but it does make sense to reject someone when you would rather be alone than with someone you feel you are not compatible with.



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29 Jun 2016, 1:18 am

Chronos wrote:
TomS wrote:
I think the critique is justified in some cases. Like this one.

The rejection is not a problem. Its certainly his right. But in his situation just makes 0 sense. So something seems rotten in this guys denmark.

The main thing is him then treating her badly after rejecting her. Thats plain jerk.


He should not have treated her poorly, but it does make sense to reject someone when you would rather be alone than with someone you feel you are not compatible with.


Ghosting, avoiding or treating poorly after rejection are so typical among the ones who reject- I dunno why, maybe they feel their friendship got betrayed or something.
We hear a lot of the Nice Guy thing (the guy who starts acting like jerk after his lady friend rejects him) - but the ghosting from the rejecting person is also something very common.