aside from sperm, what good are men?

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01 Jul 2016, 9:06 am

We're a charming jungle for you to unravel and sperm is useful but you should probably prefer what the sperm arrives from, if you don't I suppose the man is not much good!

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01 Jul 2016, 9:33 am

Men break up the monotony of socializing with women.

*imagines a world without men.....shudders*

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01 Jul 2016, 12:30 pm

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Just about everything around you was built and designed by men. We'd still be living like animals if it weren't for men.

That isn't entirely true. Yes, we built all of it. But, the women would have been able to do the same. We are more of a "good thing their here to do the hard work for us" gender. We hunt, kill, build, fix. And they have had it almost 100 times easier. Now they want equal rights and while it doesn't make perfect sense. It does lead me to the conclusion that if they can do everything we can do minus the sperm... What good are we as a Gender?

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01 Jul 2016, 1:08 pm

Well, because of men we have...

... and espresso.

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01 Jul 2016, 1:33 pm

Men are also there to do the dangerous tasks as they are more expendable, which includes the defending/fighting.

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01 Jul 2016, 2:19 pm

This one is mandatory, BTW. Please punctuate the following sentence...

A woman without her man is nothing

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01 Jul 2016, 2:38 pm

zeertheseer wrote:

xile123 wrote:

Just about everything around you was built and designed by men. We'd still be living like animals if it weren't for men.

Yeah, dying in childbirth was 100 times easier.

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01 Jul 2016, 4:35 pm

BTDT wrote:

Why is height and build so important in relationships?--I can use a Hoyer lift to take care of larger spouse that can no longer move on her own.

I've never been a stickler on height and build, have dated guys of various builds and found them attractive. However so large they cannot move and need a hoyer lift to be taken care of...that would be a deterrant. I mean I am 26 I wouldn't want someone I have to care for around the clock due to that sort of condition I prefer someone I can do activities with and have sex with(without being worried about their heart exploding and then getting crushed to death or something).

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01 Jul 2016, 5:12 pm

zeertheseer wrote:

xile123 wrote:

Just about everything around you was built and designed by men. We'd still be living like animals if it weren't for men.

I don't see how equal rights doesn't make perfect sense, I certainly don't want less right because a gender I didn't choose to be born as. Also 100x easier is quite a bit of an over-exaggeration. That said what good is the male gender...hmm provides some balance I'd think I mean can anyone really picture a world of only women that's not a nightmare? I mean to be sure there'd still be less feminine outlier women but even so much better if there are actual males. Also good for company at least for me I have more guy friends and acquaintances than females. Also it would be kind of hard for straight women to have relationships if there were no guys.

Also I really I think people have more value than their reproductive abilities....it's hard to say exactly what good either gender is beyond that, unless you look at people as individuals and determine what good or bad you think they've done.

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01 Jul 2016, 8:27 pm

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Yes, we built all of it. But, the women would have been able to do the same. We are more of a "good thing their here to do the hard work for us" gender. We hunt, kill, build, fix. And they have had it almost 100 times easier. Now they want equal rights and while it doesn't make perfect sense. It does lead me to the conclusion that if they can do everything we can do minus the sperm... What good are we as a Gender?

Oh please, don't give me that horseradish about how "men built our society, everything was built by men." There is nothing that stops a woman from being a great carpenter or engineer if she wants to. The reason you don't see as many women in these types of jobs, is because of a sexist blue-collar culture that is openly hostile to the idea of women in their workplace and views them as a nuisance and a distraction. My husband was a farmer and I worked every bit as hard as he did.

Did you just say equal rights for women "doesn't make sense"? Am I reading your post correctly?

#SMH at this sexist nonsense. There's nothing easy about being a human of either gender, you're old enough that I shouldn't even have to explain this.

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01 Jul 2016, 8:35 pm

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Open doors and jar lids, driving cars, killing spiders, barbecue cooking and plumbing fixes, among other things.

Oh, was this a serious topic? :lol:

Oh yeah! If I could find a Hunny who could kill spiders for me, I'd be in heaven! :mrgreen:

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01 Jul 2016, 8:51 pm

nurseangela wrote:

AspieUtah wrote:

Open doors and jar lids, driving cars, killing spiders, barbecue cooking and plumbing fixes, among other things.

Oh, was this a serious topic? :lol:

Oh yeah! If I could find a Hunny who could kill spiders for me, I'd be in heaven! :mrgreen:

A man that kills spiders condemns himself to the flies.

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01 Jul 2016, 8:57 pm

Evolutionarily there really only needs to be about 10% of the men there is now, way way less than half especially now with less and less need for physical labor or protection both from physical and economic harm. There isn't 1 for everyone, there is 1 for 5 or maybe 10 you're just lucky if you fall into there. People will say you are more than your reproductive organs which is true to a certain degree but it goes a long way in determining the life and people you will meet along the way; there is a reason why men use more drugs, drink more alcohol, fall into criminality, die younger, far more riskier behavior. In terms of relationships, women are completely dominant so tough **** if you find yourself in an outgroup of some undesirables. Like I have all my issues, I have all my anxieties, this disability, it doesn't matter how hard I try when that are hundreds of other guys in the same situation or more likely way better off than I am to compete with.

I don't think too many men and women are friends with each other, at least that has been my experience.

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01 Jul 2016, 9:06 pm

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I wouldn't chalk that up to evolution, only because there are species out there that DO have giant differences in gender ratio (bees first example that comes to mind), and yet humans still reproduce at close to 50/50 male/female ratio-- obviously we've evolved to have that ratio. Other than that I accept your premise of competition being the main driver of risky behavior for males.

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01 Jul 2016, 9:14 pm

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I'd say the main reason there ever was anything close to a 50/50 ratio was because of Christianity and the dreaded 'patriarchy', without it you'd just have some lord with a harem ruling over a bunch of serfs. It's not the same everywhere, it has been very different throughout even human history. Without those, I think you'll see more of a return to the historical norm which was just that. I've mentioned this before but 80% of DNA comes from female ancestors, only 40% from male, so there is a big big divergence. Evolutionarily men are the disposable sex, 100%.

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