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Fact is fact. Reality doesn't care about being politically correct. Also, I know they are different hence the slash; indicating and, or. Look at how many men are still virgins as opposed to women and with women it's usually for religious reasons. Of course that can be the case with men too, but it's usually less so. A girl can go be a webcam model, dittle herself on cam and make over $15,000 a month. What's that tell you? Most women who are single are because they have very high standards, most guys who are single are single because women have too high a standard.
Alright well I had a pretty hard time finding a relationship, I've known of plenty of guys who have gotten relationships easier than me. Also most women and all women isn't the same thing, when I was single it was due to not being able to find anyone intrested in that or being worried about getting led on again which most of my 'relationships' up till this one consisted of. Also once again females here probably don't have it as 'easy' as neurotypical females in this area, also not all guys have it as difficult as guys with autism like you and others seem to imply.
I couldn't go be a webcam model and make that kind of money, no f***ing way, some females might be able to do that however. Either way not sure what that has to do with how easy it is for any female to find relationships or getting laid. Also i am not criticizing your opinion for being 'politically incorrect' I am criticizing your blanket generalization that doesn't actually hold true for everyone.
Why is it so hard for some of you here to believe that OMG some women have a very hard time acquiring relationships, especially ones here with a condition that effects social interaction...do the ones that struggle just not exist? I guess women are strange beings all neurotypical with good social skills and popularity with tons of males pursing them that they simply have to select from. I wonder than what those of us who struggle in this area are considered to people here.
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Some do, just way way fewer obviously.
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Some do, just way way fewer obviously.
Yeah way fewer neurotypical women than autistic males probably struggle a lot with relationships. however if we consider the existence of females on the spectrum(pretty sure we exist), I imagine fewer neurotypical males struggle a lot with finding a relationship than autistic females. Basically hello some of us autistic people here are female and struggle more than neurotypical males and females much like guys here.
Could it be neurotypicals typically have it a bit easier finding relationships than autistic people who struggle with interaction? rather than females by default have it easier than all males...sounds a little bit more logical to me.
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No, it just proves it's easier in the "getting laid" department, not the "relationship" department.
It may surprise you to learn that finding a male who wants to have sex with you doesn't mean it's going to lead to a good relationship.
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LOL I love the logic you used to come to this conclusion, this is clearly something someone with aspergers would say. I approve
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LOL I love the logic you used to come to this conclusion, this is clearly something someone with aspergers would say. I approve
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No, it just proves it's easier in the "getting laid" department, not the "relationship" department.
It may surprise you to learn that finding a male who wants to have sex with you doesn't mean it's going to lead to a good relationship.
Oh, gee golly Miss Molly really? I never said that it did, just that's it's easier. Any woman is going to have a vastly easier time looking for a boyfriend. Like I said, what stops them a lot is having really high standards. Also, I even stated that sex and relationships are separated. Thanks fro agreeing with me, although partially.
LOL I love the logic you used to come to this conclusion, this is clearly something someone with aspergers would say. I approve
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LOL, I'm glad he's taken a vacation from PPR, too. Very funny and informative posts.
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Fact is fact. Reality doesn't care about being politically correct. Also, I know they are different hence the slash; indicating and, or. Look at how many men are still virgins as opposed to women and with women it's usually for religious reasons. Of course that can be the case with men too, but it's usually less so. A girl can go be a webcam model, dittle herself on cam and make over $15,000 a month. What's that tell you? Most women who are single are because they have very high standards, most guys who are single are single because women have too high a standard.
Alright well I had a pretty hard time finding a relationship, I've known of plenty of guys who have gotten relationships easier than me. Also most women and all women isn't the same thing, when I was single it was due to not being able to find anyone intrested in that or being worried about getting led on again which most of my 'relationships' up till this one consisted of. Also once again females here probably don't have it as 'easy' as neurotypical females in this area, also not all guys have it as difficult as guys with autism like you and others seem to imply.
I couldn't go be a webcam model and make that kind of money, no f***ing way, some females might be able to do that however. Either way not sure what that has to do with how easy it is for any female to find relationships or getting laid. Also i am not criticizing your opinion for being 'politically incorrect' I am criticizing your blanket generalization that doesn't actually hold true for everyone.
Why is it so hard for some of you here to believe that OMG some women have a very hard time acquiring relationships, especially ones here with a condition that effects social interaction...do the ones that struggle just not exist? I guess women are strange beings all neurotypical with good social skills and popularity with tons of males pursing them that they simply have to select from. I wonder than what those of us who struggle in this area are considered to people here.
He's wrong anyways, I am friends with a number of sex workers and most web cam girls don't make anywhere near $15,000 a month. The average cam girl doesn't make anymore than you'd make on a minimum wage job. Usually they do it on top of their day job for extra money. Hi considering the sh*t that comes out of this dude's mouth it's not surprising that he doesn't know what he's talking about. He sounds like someone who spends too much time on MRA/MGTOW/PUA sites lmao.
And yeah I can tell you it is hard to find someone to date. There's always interested people but that doesn't mean a goddamn thing if they aren't your type - and the sleazy, older men who show interest in me aren't my type. I prefer people who actually care about what I have to say and can carry a worthwhile conversation, not some sleazy middle aged man who wants to have sex with me and shows the typical male entitlement that they can't even consider dating a woman their own age lmao.
He doesn't seem to get that its men's fault if it's like this. If you're willing to stick your d*ck in anything then that's your problem. Women stay single for long periods of time because we have standards. Consider doing the same and stop complaining.
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How is it a bad thing our standards are lower?
We are attracted to and seek a high amount of women, but only a disproportionately small minority are only interested in us back.
If anything, raising our standards further will only limit our dating pool and mean that small minority is even smaller and harder to come by.
That says more about you than it does about us.
Contrary to popular belief, some men don't just want to screw anything that moves, some of us have decent and realistic standards and, because they are decent and realistic, a high amount of women coincidentally fit our low standards and so we pursue a high amount of them, but still don't find success.
And contrary to popular belief, not all women have perfectionist standards for 'Mr. Right' but realistic and down-to-earth standards, and are pursued by a high amount of males, but still don't find success.
Maybe dating is just a number's game then.
Let's not think black-and-white here: it's not the case that men have no standards and women have ridiculously high standards, there are plenty of men and women in-between who have decent amount of standards, it's just sometimes some women may be more likely to fall onto the higher side of average and some men on the lower side of average. Not scientific fact, not intended to be a sexist generalization - just an opinion.
"And yeah I can tell you it is hard to find someone to date. There's always interested people but that doesn't mean a goddamn thing if they aren't your type"
You admit there are interested people. The same can't be said by some (read: many) of the men here.
Having 100 perverted men pursue you if there's at least one decent guy in there is better than having to pursue 100 women only to find one decent gal in there.
One takes more effort than the other.
I swear this is just deja vu as I already said this in an earlier thread.
It's not that most of the men who pursue you are bad people - it's that you are at least pursued at all, ever, by anyone at any point in time, which the same can't be said by many of the men here.
I honestly like the idea of receiving public attention from girls or gay/bisexual guys, even if they're perverted and disgust me, if just for the sake of an ego boost. It reminds me at least SOMEONE can be attracted to me and helps my self-esteem, rather than always wondering.
That said, I find it disgusting to be cat-called especially explicitly sexual comments and have been before, but thinking back to every sort of attention others have given me for my looks still helps make me feel confident in my appearance.
You're wrong lmao. Most of the men I'm apparently supposed to be flattered by their interest make me uncomfortable. They don't care about my boundaries, they don't care about me as a person. That's not a good thing and the fact that men think it is tells me you have no f*****g clue how hard it is to be treated like an object and have your boundaries consistently ignored. And then have men try to tell you how lucky you are. Yeah, so lucky that I'm being pursued by people who make me uncomfortable and who don't even care that they're doing it. Joy of joy. I'd rather be ignored and be single my entire life than deal with that.
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"You're wrong lmao."
i'm not wrong because I disagree.
That's a dismissive thing to say and I never directly said you are 'wrong' either because I don't believe this - it's all a matter of perspective.
I'd prefer we not think in absolutes - 'right' or 'wrong'.
"Most of the men I'm apparently supposed to be flattered by their interest make me uncomfortable."
You're not supposed to, it's just I personally still feel complimented by it, even if it makes me uncomfortable. It still reminds me at least someone is attracted to me.
Though I would prefer someone who respected me, of course.
I can understand if others would think differently.
"They don't care about my boundaries, they don't care about me as a person. That's not a good thing and the fact that men think it is tells me you have no f*****g clue how hard it is to be treated like an object and have your boundaries consistently ignored."
It's not a good thing, I never said it is.
And it's true, I haven't recieved enough unpleasant attention to have an idea of how it must feel, because I get less attention in general.
"And then have men try to tell you how lucky you are. Yeah, so lucky that I'm being pursued by people who make me uncomfortable and who don't even care that they're doing it. Joy of joy."
I'm not saying it's 'better' or 'worse', I'm just saying it's 'different'.
A difference some men would actually prefer to have.
Some find it easier to be pursued, some to pursue.
We're all different.
"You also misunderstand. Your standards are lower in a bad way - it's clear many of you don't care about women's personalities and that's gross. I've said it before and I'll say it again - men, especially straight ones, are empty."
More deja vu.
Whenever I speak to you in these forums you always reply as if you're speaking directly to me personally.
When did I ever list my standards?
If you want to know my standards it's any average 5/10 female who likes me for me and I like her for her. And also she's got to have decent care for her health and appearance, and by decent i mean average. And of course not be a criminal/find joy in hurting others.
I don't even care about similar interest or values whatsoever. Not because I don't care about personality.
I hear some people say it's good to find someone similar to you, and others say opposites attract. This confuses me and I'm not sure which one would be better so I just go about life not caring about these things.
I've dated/gotten along with a wide variety of girls and women of all different diverse personalities and backgrounds so I'm just not sure what my 'type' truly is.
So I choose not to have a specific type. I choose to simply want chemistry/connection, emotional and physical, regardless of how similar or different we may be.
Please further insinuate my standards are 'low' for all the 'wrong' reasons.
"I don't know why I bother arguing with you. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about and ignore what women say because you already have your mind made up. You don't understand our perspective and you don't want to."
By all means, I'm trying.
So basically what you're saying Commanderkleen is that woman aren't allowed to complain about being lonely because they can easily have a relationship with someone they aren't attracted to and whom they don't really have anything in common with.
Have you never heard the saying, "it's better to be alone, that lonely in a bad relationship"
I thought you, like me, hated that quote.
It's better to be single than in a bad relationship, but a GOOD relationship is the best of all 3.
Anyway, I don't think it's a gender thing, but depends on the person in general.
Some people actually enjoy pursuing, as it offers them choice and some enjoy the thrill of 'the chase'.
Some might prefer being pursued and receiving positive attention for their looks/personality.
Forget gender and take it out of the equation for a second.
So I don't think women have it easier and men harder, I think some find it harder to be pursued/to pursue than others.
The reason gender relates to it is that many women can choose to pursue or to be pursued, but many men CAN'T.
Many men may HAVE to pursue unless they don't want to end up alone, many women can simply allow men to pursue her or, if that's not working, CHOOSE to pursue herself.
It may be considered socially unacceptable for women to pursue, but I'd take being able to pursue if it's 'socially unacceptable' if it means finding love over 'actually stops me from finding love' if I choose not to pursue.
There are some men who would find life easier if more women did the pursuing.
On an Autistic forum, I would assume more often than not the men here would find life much easier if more women pursued.
Just as there are some women who actually find pursuing what kind of man they want easier than 'waiting for the right one'.
The problem occurs when there is a mismatch in gender and values - when a male would find life easier if more women pursued but this is simply not the case.
He can't change society.
I DO believe pursuing requires more effort than not pursuing, so it is slightly harder for men overall if they can't switch back-and-forth.
The key word here is 'slightly'. It's not 'women are extremely lucky', it's 'the fact I can't choose to not pursue makes it slightly harder for me, but that doesn't mean you don't find it hard yourself'.
I agree with that quote. It is better to be alone than to be in a bad relationship.
What I don't like is people telling me that like I am an ibecile who doesn't know that.
You've missed my point completely.
CommanderKleen is saying that women can get into a relationship if they want as long as they abandon all of their standards and things that make them happy. He is implying that this means that we are not allowed to complain. Our happiness is unimportant to him.
And I can't just choose to be pursued, if a man doesn't like me, he doesn't like me, I can't wave him over and ask him to pursue me and it'll all work out.
Women get rejected too.
Women get rejected too.