Weird and confusing thing on schooltrip.
I talked to one of Chloés best friends and turns out she has this 'inclination' to act towards certain people.
Without any meaning behind it.
She does this by nature..
She even gave me an example of how she's done this with another guy during the schoolplay rehearsals too.
f***ing crap.
Just another f**k up, i get my hopes up just to have them shot down.
Every time i think i've advanced, i find out i never moved.
Every time i think things go good, it turns out they're nothing more then what they were before.
Maybe i should just give up on things like this and move on to something that actually works out.
What the hell? 'Inclination' is just a pathetic excuse for her to be affectionate and all lovey-dovey to anyone she wants without any repercussions or strings attached. Sounds like she's using you - I wouldn't put myself in a submissive supporter/friend role. Don't let her call the shots, tell you that what she's doing is misleading and wrong. Stand up for yourself.
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd apparently no one ever listens to the Doc anymore. I said this was trouble.
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I talked to one of Chloés best friends and turns out she has this 'inclination' to act towards certain people.
Without any meaning behind it.
She does this by nature..
She even gave me an example of how she's done this with another guy during the schoolplay rehearsals too.
f***ing crap.
Just another f**k up, i get my hopes up just to have them shot down.
Every time i think i've advanced, i find out i never moved.
Every time i think things go good, it turns out they're nothing more then what they were before.
Maybe i should just give up on things like this and move on to something that actually works out.
What the hell? 'Inclination' is just a pathetic excuse for her to be affectionate and all lovey-dovey to anyone she wants without any repercussions or strings attached. Sounds like she's using you - I wouldn't put myself in a submissive supporter/friend role. Don't let her call the shots, tell you that what she's doing is misleading and wrong. Stand up for yourself.
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd apparently no one ever listens to the Doc anymore. I said this was trouble.
You and me both.
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Funny, i was thinking that.
EDIT: I thought about it a bit and now i understand my hesitation towards liking the hugs.
Those hugs and walks are to me almost directly connected to having a relation.
If you don't have a relation and you still like those hugs and walks, in my head, it means you want a relation with that girl.
Kind of an 'all or nothing'.
How do you guys think about it?
Perhaps she is this friendly with a lot of guys. But, solely basing your conclusion on this doesn´t seem like good reasoning. When she does like a guy, she will have to do this too. Otherwise, how should she act towards someone that she likes? Will she be cold and unaffectionate? I´m not saying that she likes you, but just saying that it doesn´t prove that she doesn´t like you. Although the handwriting thing when she was serious about +chloe not being true isn´t a good thing. I think the whole, "if she is still with her boyfriend" thing was a better indicator.
I don´t know, I´m just as lost as you are when it comes to these things. So, don´t mind the blind man telling the other blind man what its like to see. I don´t mean to get your hopes up again, just putting in my 2 cents.
About the hugs thing. I do like them. Maybe it does mean that you still like her, so what. And, maybe you won´t ever have her. Hugs are still nice. Better to be hugged than not touched at all I say. If you can handle your feelings.
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Maybe she loves me, maybe she doesn't.
Either way, i'm not hoping for anything.
But the fact that even after the trip and whole fainting thing she still behaves this way just confuses me more.
I want to believe she doesn't feel anything for me.
But at the same time, i feel like i could be throwing away a lovely girl if i didn't persist for a bit more time.
There's this one little detail i remember again though which i'm going to add for the sake of accurateness.
After the visit, we were waiting for the bus with about 10 people and i sat down on the curb and she sat between my legs.
We kind of cuddled there and then she went away. (i'm saying kind of because i held her and to me, it looked like cuddling but to another it wouldn't.)
Before she left, she gave me a soft kiss on my hand/wrist.
I don't know if it is significant but it seems it is to me because during the whole trip, no kisses occurred (except for 'hi' cheek-to-cheek kisses)
Funny, i was thinking that.
EDIT: I thought about it a bit and now i understand my hesitation towards liking the hugs.
Those hugs and walks are to me almost directly connected to having a relation.
If you don't have a relation and you still like those hugs and walks, in my head, it means you want a relation with that girl.
Kind of an 'all or nothing'.
How do you guys think about it?
Not necessarily. My group of friends are the close, intimate sort. So we toss around hugs quite often. But then again, the hugs in our group are mostly platonic.
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I would suggest you not jump to the conclusion that this is happening, but be wary of the possibility.
On the other hand do NOT be the nice guy if she doesn't seem to want to take things further. You can waste years of your life that way, waiting for her to finally leave the boyfriend she claims is so horrible (but is really great in bed though she won't admit it. hey just a theory

The best thing to do now is to watch how she behaves now that she is back with her boyfriend. If she doesn't come around pretty soon just put her out of your mind. If she is a user she WILL string you along so what you're looking for is a clean break with the old boyfriend and new commitment to you. Anything short of that is less nothing.
Well said.
i generally agree though i wouldn't specifically assume her emotional ties to her horrible bf are purely sexual.
time emeshes a lot of things between two people...
but definitely being a crutch for a girl (or anyone) in this kind of situation is not good for you or her really... caues if she does need to get away from him... you giving her support (release) effectively increases the threshold of s**t she will be able to sustain from her guy... and you will still just be a crutch.
so be there... but not too too much... just enough so she'll know where to find you if she decides to end things
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i generally agree though i wouldn't specifically assume her emotional ties to her horrible bf are purely sexual.
time emeshes a lot of things between two people...
Yeah. I know my wife wouldn't have tried again with me,
if just for sex. She could have gotten some anywhere, and
I don't flatter myself by thinking that I'm THAT good (okay,
sometimes I do). But the biggest thing are the ties of love
and familiarity.
familiarities go a long way, indeed. sometimes you wonder why nts are so hardwired about their routine in that respect.
two cases among my friends who both had/have as*hole boyfriends but had/have massive problems breaking up. the one who managed to break free called me often, just wanting to talk about his latest idiocies and how he treated her, and i was like "baby, you dont need that done to you! theres a thousand more deserving of someone like you" - and it all was no use until she really got knocked out by falling in love with a nice guy.
the other one still is with her jerk, complains about not being happy anymore but denies that she is unhappy with her boyfriend (nt logic at work).
in my extended family, a girl has a pure idiot boyfriend and is with him for several years. she got dumped by him in the meanest way possible and when he xame back, started the relationship again. after some really heavy incidents, she managed to break up with him, only to notice that now everything is different from yesterday (kinda why you change crap situations, i always thought) and to call him and ask him to forget yesterday.
Hmm.
hypothetically(I say this because of what's going through my mind) she may not be using you, and genunially(SP?) likes you, but..............but at the same time she is playing it safe.
dunno. Right now I'm trying to help a fellow female friend out with her boyfriend......Full blooded NT's are weird. I'm half blooded.
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I have a cousin who is very flirty and tactile with people. Even if she doesn't want a relationship with them. She seems to like attention and to like being liked. Even though she is gay she will flirt with a guy and lead him on...
Some people are just like that.
Although she could like you without wanting to split up with her boyfriend. It's always kind of hard to tell what people's motives are.
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