LURGENT!! !! !! !! ! I NEED TO KNOW IF IM BI OR NOT?????? HEELP!

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They annoy the hell out of me too. I don't mind religious people. In fact the one person I sometimes sit with in lectures is a girl who's Muslim. So it's not individual religious people that irritate me, just the religion itself and the crazy ones you come across every now and then.

Totally agree. It can be fun to screw with their notions of religion. Plus, if, on the rare occasion, you can get them to think, they abandon religion for their own, unique way to worship.

i don't think gay/bi people have AS anymore than do straight people... so i doubt that's the cause of your possible "bi"-ness

and keep in mind that the BIBLE was written by people... regardless of what "god told them to write"

im not gettin into relgion... but it really pisses me off when people who believe in the word, have such personal strife over topics like this and even within their relgion, they get no comfort...


but if it makes you feel better.... i used to have some sexually (gender, i mean) ambigous fantasies when i was young... and i'm completely straight now

Apparently that is true of a lot of straight women. But I don't know.

And Wormy: nobody should feel the need to categorise themselves based on something as complicated as their sexuality when they're still young anyway. I wouldn't class myself as 'gay', 'bi' or 'straight' to be honest and, although those terms will be perfectly fine for most people, you don't need to take up so much time and energy trying to place yourself into one of these categories anyway. The way I see it is, if I like someone, then I like them. Regardless of their sex or gender.

I kind of wish I had that view, it would make life a bit easier. The fact that I'd like to have that view, maybe that says something about me that I'm not really sure of yet, maybe not, maybe it is just looking at it as a convenience issue, whatever. Maybe it is nothing. If it were possible for me, I do think things would be a lot less complicated.

I think it would make my life easier if I was completely straight or bisexual. I'd say I'm probably 95% gay, by definition. Which, along with AS and social anxiety, doesn't give me much home lol. But, I mean I'm not going to sit here and try and work out based on who I like, who I've liked in the past etc whether I fit into the gay box or the straight box. Society would probably class me as gay, but I don't feel the need to identify with such rigid definitions for something like this really.

Well, my knowledge of this kind of thing is skewed, I'm male, I don't usually get the other side of things that women manage to get, but at least in my (limited) experience, guys are a lot less forgiving of homosexuality than women. If a guy is a virgin, they could get asked (well...harassed or ridiculed is a better way to put it) if they are gay. If the case is true with women (in terms of harassment in any sense) I wouldn't be aware, but I can definitely believe it.

That, and I'm not physically attracted to males in the slightest. Even after saying all that, I'd be much happier if someone's sex wasn't a factor in considering them worth pursuing. Part of that has to do with the physical attraction part, but I view that as far less important than the personality the person has.

OK...I've derailed this thread enough, I'll try to behave now.

i think im bisexual like everyother day. hahahahaha! i cant believe i just said that

Yeah, that sounds about right for me, too. Although it's been neither helpful nor productive

It's been neither helpful nor productive for me either. I almost exclusively like girls and girls don't tend to like me unfortunately lol

I almost exclusively like girls as well. And the girls I like are either already in a relationship or gay.

This is not good for my mental well-being.

We should pool our resources - I'm sure we could find the girls of our dreams if we worked together

It shouldn't really matter.

I'm a christian, but I don't judge people based on whether they believe or not, or whether or not they're bi, gay or lesbian. that doesn't matter to me.

what matters to me is people who are judgmental, and those out there that try and tell others that being a certain way is a sin, like being gay or bi, that is a sin. I don't by that at all, its like saying being Mormon is a sin(and to any Mormons here or Jehova's witnesses or anyone who is of a different sect of christianity I make no offense to you) and that you should become something else. That is what I find offensive.

I've gone through this debate several times this past year. I go to a chrstian college and twice this year we've had people come to this school to talk about how being Gay is wrong. well one day I went to the lunch talk back sesh and I said that Christians are bigots then, because we're telling those who are Gay or whatever to not to be, yet we're shelling the S*** out of people across the ocean for beliving in a total different relgion then us and not treating women the way we do. I call that bigoted.

I'm a Christian, but I'm the type who isn't all goody goody, and praying all the time. I believe in God, but that doesn't mean I go to church all the time, I'm someone who believes that we follow our own path, and where it leads us is where we want to go, and if we get hooked and snared along the way by things, then it is our perogative to learn from those things.

that is my Kokaro.

I think that much like ASD, sexuality comes on a pretty extensive spectrum, on which nearly everyone fits (I can't see where no sexuality fits, since it would need a third dimension on the scale...)
Nobody in truth is going to be at one end or the other, everyone is somewhere inbetween the 2 poles of likes men, and likes woman.

Even the Roman Catholic church, which is very conservative about homosexuality, only counts homosexual acts as a sin, not the inclination. If you actually are bisexual, then as long as you stick to the opposite sex you are fine as far as even quite conservative Christians are concerned. You will have to think of many interesting people as unavailable for an intimate relationship for any number of reasons, whether they are just not interested, already in a relationship, or whatever other reason there may be. You would just add another reason to exclude a few more people you would otherwise find interesting. That would be harder if you were completely homosexual, and your religion compelled you to ignore everyone you could love.

My own thought, which is definitely not Christian doctrine , is that if God exists and is just, and has not given you a rational way to choose between the many religions that claim to be based on direct divine relevation, then God will not judge you on the details that differ between religions, but on the general principles. The most general of those is whether your actions harm others. There are many ways in which sexual conduct can harm others, whether it is through coercion or deception, but none of them are specific to homosexuality.

One potentially difficult problem is whether it should count as harm if an action, for example a same sex intimate relationship, upsets those who object to homosexuality . My test would be to ask whether I would count it as harm if the objection against relationship was based not on whether the people involved are of the same or different sex, but on skin colour or hair colour or surname or caste membership. All of these I would count not as harming the people who object, on the grounds that their upset is based on unreasonable prejudice. If people have better reasons to object, for example if what you want would destroy an existing relationship, then you should stop, no matter whether the person involved is the same sex or the other sex.

If you agree with this idea of what it means for God to be just, it follows that you have to think harder about the consequences of your choices than if you blindly accept the guidelines provided by your religion. In my opinion, there are good elements in the moral guidelines of many religions, but I don't think that releases me from responsibility to think for myself. I have this feeling that if God asked me to justify why I had harmed people, and I said "I was just following orders, YOUR orders, as laid down in your holy book", he might not excuse me unless I could give really good reasons why I believed I did what He wanted.

Gromit

I still think the Bible is a load of bollocks.

I love reading the bible, its the most effective barbiturate...