so I'm slightly telepathic......I think.

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Sarcasam is at a premium.

So are hallucinations and the people who believe they're psychic.

well i believed you
i have no idea what sarcasasm is at a premium means

I have no idea ere what it means, It was 1:30 this morning that I wrote it. that might explain something.


and Ramsus, I am not halucinating, or on drugs, or drunk. I'm quite serios.

I'M SUPER SERIAL GUYS! #1 THREAT TO AMERICA.. MAN-BEAR-PIG!
It's spelled serious. How am I supposed to believe that someone who hasn't even yet mastered his own language (or typing skills) has psychic abilities? Cmon now, you have to do better than that.

some people just type and are not too bothered about spellinh, just let yr fingers over the keyboarfs. dprlling is ioverrated espeacially ont ternet

And who would believe that so many people with our crippled social skills could become such great academics and artists? It F*(£&ING HAPPENS THOUGH. God, I'm suddenly incredibly angry. Sorry.

Anyway (deep breath), yeah what I mean is, I'm not saying we're ALL great academics or whatever, but lots of us on these boards have good qualifications and whatnot. WHAT the hell was I on about.

Hmm... *thinks*

OH yeah, I meant to mention this project I read about recently where some guys used a powerful computer to trawl through internet posts for an experiment. They apparently found that once the data had been sifted through and processed, it often foretold coming major events, albeit in a rather cryptic form. They observed that the general population seem to have a slight pre-awareness of such events, because the content of the collected posts would lean slightly towards terrorism etc just prior to 9/11, and things like that.

Oh, actually, I managed to find the link: WebBot Experiments

I see many connections to the Noosphere and memetics in this. Handy links to Wikipedia!: Noosphere; Memetics.

Things I've always wondered about these kinds of phenomenon is, how come so many scientists try to disprove things by pointing out their lack of official knowledge about the subject, and how come the scientists and the "believers" (or whatever they're properly called) never seem to agree with each other on the grounds that each side has a seperate explanation for the phenomenon? Surely if one person thinks they can foretell an attack using psychic powers and another thinks that it's actually just the result of their subconscious picking up cues from the atmosphere (or the Noosphere!), surely it can be seen as both at once? The opposing viewpoints just sound like the same fact portayed using different terms. Not that it even matters in the first place as far as I can tell; if you can predict the future accurately then that's proof enough for me, and the end of my part of the debate.

Hehee, I enjoyed that. No offense meant to anyone in this post.

Hmm, so a savantism over quantum physics in such away that completely lacks any supernatural anything is out of the question of possibility? Sometimes on rare occasion if you whack someone in the head the right way and hard enough they can tell you in an instant what the weather was like on any day after the accident no matter how random you get. Some other people can sit there and count pie out to eternity because their minds can auto-compute numbers thanks to synesthaesia and more or less seeing the numbers rather than manually crunching them. Stranger things happen and necessarily labeling it as mysticism is just acknowledging that we don't know how it works or what the scientific explanation is, not that its impossible.

Thank you Techstep

What does one expect from an English major?

I actually did. I've seen dead animals.

... except none of those have anything to do with a connection between the mind and some sort of mystical force giving them supernatural powers. They all involved the brain being rewired by trauma or a disorder to perform a certain task well. They also usually come with sacrifices in other aspects. Comparing savants to psychics is laughable, at best. Just because we don't currently know how forming connections between neurons stores memories/personality/etc... doesn't make a connection between the brain and some outside energy any more likely. The more we learn, the less "magic" or "supernatural" things appear.

You'd think people might start seeing a pattern. The sun is the mystical being who has given us life... wait... no, it's a burning ball of gas. We are the center of the universe for we are the chosen ones... wait... no, we're on an insignificant planet on the edge of the galaxy. The ground shakes because our god is angry... wait... no, it's just the result of massive plates of land releasing tension from rubbing against each other. It's never as exciting as our first guess. Automatically jumping to the supernatural as an explanation is like believing that a magician has special powers just because you can't explain how he performs his tricks.

@ Gamester:

... as I was saying about the false memories, you never know that it happened. So, saying "that's not how it happened" proves nothing. You never know they're false. This is why eyewitness testimony isn't trustworthy. Your mind can be tricked easily. In fact, it's happening all the time. Your perception isn't reality. It is your brain's interpretation of inputs. For example, you have blind spots where your optic nerve connects to the back of your eye... but you can't see them because you're brain is making s**t up to fill in the spaces. That's not even one of the crazier examples. With redirection, interruption, and sensory overload... you can switch out a person in mid-conversation and have them think they've been talking to the second person the whole time. The mind is far from trustworthy / reliable.

If it makes life easier for you to handle... believe in magic. I'm not trying to stop you. I'm just giving an alternative to the readers. I studied psychology at college (in addition to computer science), still read the journals, and watch every video I can get my hands on. This stuff fascinates me.

Alright have it your way CD, however I don't need to be psychoanalyzed because you find me an interesting subject.

You be the skeptic that you want to be, but I will continue in my beliefs that these abilities are naturally and not as you put it "false memories," I took a psychology course Fall semester, and we went over dreams, and my prof said that what I do dream is rare, because not many individuals out there have what I have. I know of only one other person, who has almost the same exact abilities that I have, though I think hers are maybe less finely tuned then mine are.

Me. I'm your average kid, I don't have a God complex, and I don't have delusions.

Your professor may want to do things to you

Again, you speak of this like its absolutely and necessarily mystical - that in and of itself is the fallacy. I would not have wasted my time making that analogy, and it wouldn't make any sense whatsoever, unless that very issue was what I was trying to address.

CD. lemme ask you a question. Do you believe in miracles?