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Sopho
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14 May 2007, 12:38 pm

I think the government should stay out of marriage altogether.



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14 May 2007, 12:44 pm

yeah...then the divorse-she gets to take all your money :roll: bull s**t



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14 May 2007, 12:46 pm

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My wife and I got married in Las Vegas. We didn't plan on it, it just happened. There wasn't a big ceremony. It was just me, my wife, the priestess and the limo driver as witness.


Awww no Elvis impersonator?


Nope. I couldn't afford the Viva Las Vegas package.


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14 May 2007, 1:48 pm

Sopho wrote:
Why do we have this bollocks?
Why do people need to get married anyway and why do they deserve legal and financial rights/benefits just for doing so?
:D


# 1) Your guess is as good as mine.
# 2) Being married generally costs more money, and there is the possibility of raising children, which further drives the cost up.

As for the raising children, it is proven that children with two parents are more successful in life. What I can't understand, is why kids can't be adopted by Gay couples. Any capable pair of parents should be allow to raise a child.


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14 May 2007, 3:52 pm

I think I would get married one day, because I am stupidly romantic. However I do not really believe any two people will love each other for the rest of there lives. So i guess I would be getting a divorce in the future to.
Logically, marriage does not make much sense to me.



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14 May 2007, 9:10 pm

Sopho wrote:
I think the government should stay out of marriage altogether.


Well, if that was the case, there would
have to be some other way of determining
the legal bonds which come with a state
marriage. Such decisions as who controls
life-support decisions, as well as economical
ties.

As it stands, in the US at least, there is
a strong legal definition of marriage
(flawed though it is), and a collateral
religious one. The problem is that the
two are tied up together.



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14 May 2007, 10:17 pm

if a couple is not married then who gets the children when their born
if the couple do not remain together?
the mother because she birthed them? thats not fair to the male,
there has to be some laws governing the security of the people in the relationship
dealing with the children and the communal possessions gained during the relationship.



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15 May 2007, 12:48 am

aspergian_mutant wrote:
if a couple is not married then who gets the children when their born
if the couple do not remain together?
the mother because she birthed them? thats not fair to the male,
there has to be some laws governing the security of the people in the relationship
dealing with the children and the communal possessions gained during the relationship.


What if the same happens in some sort of
gay relationship, or an even less conventional
one? There is NO protection within the law
for such things, in most states.



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15 May 2007, 1:01 am

It's a way for people to say they love each other so much they are honorary members of each-other's families.



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15 May 2007, 1:29 am

ahayes wrote:
It's a way for people to say they love each other so much they are honorary members of each-other's families.


That is a sweet way to say it...impressive!



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15 May 2007, 7:08 am

Sopho wrote:
Why do we have this bollocks?
Why do people need to get married anyway and why do they deserve legal and financial rights/benefits just for doing so?
:D
Marriage is (in my opinion) a way a couple proves how much they love one another and that they want to be together forever, though it doesn't often work out that way

I went to a wedding back in August, I enjoyed seeing how happy the bride and groom, and their families, were, also I kept telling myself "one day it will be me" but it doesn't have to be a fancy wedding with lots of guests when it is my turn to get married

I suppose, however, we all have different opinions on marriage, this one is my own :)


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15 May 2007, 12:36 pm

Seems like the point of marriage is to provide a stable, nurturing environment for raising children. It's also a "teamwork" way to handle life -- you can draw greater power for dealing with life from pooling your resources with those of your spouse, and also lean on them when you're struggling. Clearly, it doesn't work for everyone, including me. I'm divorced, but I still can't believe I was ever married!

It is so un-me. :?


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15 May 2007, 1:47 pm

Ah, there is a non-financial aspect to marriage,
that I forgot about - getting someone else the
right to live in your country.

This is why a friend of mine got married
(though again, she loved the guy), and
is probably about the only reason that
I'm considering getting a divorce.



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15 May 2007, 7:16 pm

calandale wrote:
Ah, there is a non-financial aspect to marriage,
that I forgot about - getting someone else the
right to live in your country.
Yes, there is that aspect too, but loving the person you are marrying is good too :)


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15 May 2007, 7:39 pm

Pikachu wrote:
Yes, there is that aspect too, but loving the person you are marrying is good too :)


Well, I doubt that I'd marry anyone I didn't love.
But, there's no real justification for that, as far
as I see. Simply that it seems a bit of an annoyance
to go through without, and I can't really imagine
taking the risks involved without some feelings.

Really doesn't enter at all into the WHAT of marriage
though. It's a legal commitment, with certain advantages
and disadvantages. I don't see where love has anything
to do with it, fundamentally.



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16 May 2007, 12:19 pm

Sopho wrote:
Why do we have this bollocks?
Why do people need to get married anyway and why do they deserve legal and financial rights/benefits just for doing so?
:D


Because it is a legal process to form a partnership. If you are going to be living with someone for the rest of your life (or just a long time) and you want to do things like have joint bank accounts, buy a house together, share assets, administer financial and legal affairs together etc. then it is a lot more convinient to be married. Also, marriage affects inheritance in the event of death.
Sure you can get around most of these things without being married (e.g. making a will, drawing up financial contracts to protect interests etc.) but it is a lot easier just to get married. If you are not married then it means that you wouldn't be able to do simple things like call up the utility companies/insurance companies etc. as they would want to speak to whoevers name the contracts were taken out in. Most marriages in the UK are non-religeous anyway. They are pretty much no hassle and make life easier. I don't see the problem with them to be honest.

Why do companies register? Why do self-employed people working in partnership draw out partnership agreements?