Why are adult women not as nice?

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I feel the same, but opposite. I read alot of stuff on here, that makes me feel like alot of women don't even see men as human beings.

I was actually quite shocked when I first found this forum, but now I am just used to this rethoric.

Battle of the sexes thread.

men and women are people.

I don't like people as a general rule, they are draining.

I love some people.

Carry on with the nonsense.

Well yes. Because adults have had the time and practice to realize what they want/need in a relationship. Some men just want to be with someone in bed, some men want that person in bed to also be a friend who is cool with playing video games or watching a movie and eating some Chinese food together first, some men want to commit to a (potentially) life-long relationship which includes sex and shared meals and eventually retiring together after maybe having kids, some men want to have sex with a woman who cooks all their meals for them and cleans their whole house for them and has a bunch of babies which they care for almost entirely alone while the man goes off to work. Women, same thing. Because adults know this, they look for this. In all cases, it can work out if both parties are up front about their needs/wants and limitations and both need/want the same thing and have complementary limitations.


Is that because a lot of men are more fixed in their ideas about mysogynism/ani-women? Because gee, golly, gosh, it sure sounds that way.

There actually aren't a lot of women on here, so that's a bit odd.



Your post concerns me. Like, in terms of statutory rape laws. And being put on special lists. I could be misunderstanding it, which is why I phrased it as "your post concerns me," and I really hope I am.

I'm sorry you feel the same.

I hope that instead of getting used to, you can start speaking up when come across a topic that treat man like this.

Why bother? Blatant generalizations are rampant on the internet. Trying to argue with sexist comments about men is about as useful as... well, trying to argue with sexist comments about women. Admittedly though the generalizations against women are more common, but that's probably only because there's more males posting here.

maybe the person doing it didn't noticed that he/she said something problematic and it will be good to address the problem? or at least more people who felt uncomfortable with the commentary won't feel alone.

damn those meddling feminists, with their self-worth and compulsion to interact with men like equals.

The nerve of some people...

I obviously only date people who are over 18. This means my dating pool is in some sense restricted to women who are still waiting for their first relationship experience at 18, and there unfortunately seem to be far fewer of those than men (and especially far fewer decently attractive ones). I feel that is the central inequality driving much of the bitterness on here. At least it is the central one driving most of MY bitterness.

The whole "women want sex less" part is connected to this, but the point is most men AND women are sexually active in some form. Plus, after having a chance to play sexually with those two women I mentioned, I realized that the central issue is not getting sex per se, but getting to feel mutual attraction in some form. Plus I am a very romantic person and would like a relationship, just one like the ones people seem to have on average at 12-15ish.

Huh? Why are you bringing feminism up?

It's just observed tendencies; I think because many of the 20-25 are still in the "hard to get" stage and act on it and in many cases they do sound mean; personally I find the ladies over 35 more easygoing.

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just a friendly reminder: anti-misogyny is not the same as anti-men. feminism is not the same as misandry.

no one is entitled to respect if they are not treating others respectfully in the first place. right?

Oh, fair enough. Often I completely ignore the OP and just fixate on a particular comment chain.

That actually wasn't completely obvious to me based on your post. That's why I wanted clarification.



Hmmm...This is not meant to insult at all, it really is just a suggestion: you might ant to specifically date/court religious women. Mormon women and such. Women who were likely told to wait on the whole dating thing if that's your deal. I've never checked it out myself, but maybe try Christian Mingle or something.

Before I get 50 redundant posts, trying to explain it to me, I fully recognize this, as an example of male chauvinism.
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_ ... hill+mgtow

In conservative times and societies, women would have been married-off, before acquiring too much emotional baggage / shelf wear.

While the mgtow movement is usually criticized as being utterly abstinent, they allow for committal relationships (on her part) and non-committal (on his part).

I admit to my bias.

In one of these shows, he says, on a scale of 1 -10, he rates his appearance as a negative number. I resemble that remark, too, and it's not a problem. You just don't deal with the disinterested people. People have mommy and daddy and church and activist issues, and just don't get that there is nothing to prove, ever.

I am not pretty, not making a show of financial stability, and very young women are into me sometimes, for no good reason, at all. To the ones setting the bar forever higher, I hope you find the masochist you are looking for.

OK



That likely wouldn't work for several reasons. First, I don't believe in any form of religion, and I feel that their religious views would creep into their value system in other ways too that are incompatible with mine. This has been my experience with religious guys, like it's hard to debate certain things with them because these moral opinions come from "just so stories" rather than from anything I can actually understand.

Secondly, many religious people, even if virgins, have relationships that are emotionally as intimate as sexual relationships, and even might be considered dating. Not all, but enough that many of them still, I feel, "grew up" interpersonally and romantically-speaking. That's why you hear of virgins marrying the first person with whom they have a relationship.

Thirdly, I feel that there are other ways in which I am out of sync with most adults (including adult women) than just having not dated. Like, adults tend to be significantly less "hyper" than kids and teens--there's a difference in the general "energy" one gets from them. I feel like around adults I get restless because they expect a cool calmness that just isn't me. I've actually thought of dating ADHD girls for this reason.There's also the fading of imagination--adults seem less able or willing to live in a world of vivid fantasy, which is one of the main things I want a girlfriend for. It's like when people are kids and have the imagination they tend not to have the intellectual sophistication to make anything out of it, whereas as adults they have the knowledge but less capacity to be original (aside from some artists, that is).

The women I've been attracted to since high school were anywhere from 19-mid 20s in age, but still had these traits, and that was a big part of what made them attractive. So I really think that an "outsider artist" type of girl is my best bet. Something along the lines of a female Henry Darger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Darger), but maybe not quite as reclusive, who combines innocence and a kind of naively optimistic worldview about relationships and everything with sophisticated thinking. It's obviously hard to find, and in fact the last girl I tried to date was low-functioning to the point where it's possible she would have been mentally incompatible (turns out she didn't like me back anyway).