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14 Jun 2017, 5:01 am

Most siblings of autistic people are NT.



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14 Jun 2017, 7:19 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Most siblings of autistic people are NT.


That makes no sense, but it depends on how you define NT. If we assume neurodiversity is mostly heritable (which is a sound assumption), then if a sibling is neurodiverse (which most people diagnosed as autistic are), then there is a high probability that they are neurodiverse too. Of course, assuming that they are really biological siblings.



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14 Jun 2017, 7:54 am

It makes quite a bit of sense. Most autistic people I know have NT siblings, me included.



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14 Jun 2017, 8:11 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
It makes quite a bit of sense. Most autistic people I know have NT siblings, me included.


I would pass as NT to many people, and so would my siblings. None of us are diagnosed, but that doesn't mean any of us are NT.



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14 Jun 2017, 8:24 am

I know the non-autistic siblings very well. One of them is my brother. He's a jackass, but he's as NT as they come.

Genetics is a component of autism--but it's inconsistent. Autism frequently is purely idiopathic. Other times, siblings do have it together. It's only consistent in identical twins, though. And, many times, how the autism is presented is very different among identical twins.



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14 Jun 2017, 8:41 am

Being a jackass is frequently connected with overcompensation and being in denial about one's true self. In fact, many of the worst jackasses I know of are neurodiverse, but trying to be NT. Also, it's impossible to detect if somebody that is good at faking being NT really is NT or not. Not only that but a lot of people are mixed and might have NT communication traits, which makes them fit in easily, but still have some other ND quirks, like possibly the relationship traits as could be a factor in this case.



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14 Jun 2017, 8:45 am

My brother compensated because he felt he lost his mother's love owing to my autism and my needs.



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14 Jun 2017, 9:12 am

Anecdotally (I've read many blogs), most families have one autistic child; the others might be within the Broad Autism Phenotype, or they might not be within it.

I do have a distant relative who has two autistic sons; both are "Aspergian" in presentation mostly, but with some "classic" features.

I'm not saying heritability is not an element underlying the causation of autism; I'm saying that often, there is no apparent heritability.



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14 Jun 2017, 2:48 pm

Yeah, I just recently kinda got dumped, too. I thought this guy and I were really hitting it off. Then he told me that he just wants to be friends. That broke my heart. I was actually starting to fall in love with him, but he says that he doesn't feel the same way, that the sparks just aren't there. Then I started to think that there's something wrong with me. I mean, yes, I have Asperger's, and he knows that. I think the thing that really struck me is when he also said that he doesn't even want to have benefits anymore, if you get my drift. You know, sex. I'm sorry, but I love sex! In fact, I think I might be a sex and love addict because I also have Borderline Personality Disorder and still do risky things. Ok, too much information? :oops: Anyway, sorry you got dumped, but she's the one missing out. You sound like a great guy and deserve better. The best of luck to you!



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14 Jun 2017, 7:48 pm

rdos wrote:
If her brother is on the spectrum, I very much doubt she is NT, so I think we can exclude the possibility that it was because of NT-style nonverbal communication. I think pressure from parents about not working is a more likely reason. Besides, both being neurodiverse is not a guarantee of a successful relationship, especially not if people meet by dating.


I have second cousins and a niece on the spectrum but all of my siblings are NT, as are both of my parents, and grandparents.