Why do Normies always blame men for their lack of dating?

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02 Sep 2017, 10:29 pm

> "normies"
> "6.5/10 male", "6/10 female"

Dude, get your head out of your ass first. Then you might find a woman who wants to date you. You're being very unreasonable and selfish. A relationship is a two-way street, you can't be an as*hole and expect a perfect partner. If i was less polite, I would tell you to grow up.



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02 Sep 2017, 10:32 pm

luminifera wrote:
> "normies"
> "6.5/10 male", "6/10 female"

Dude, get your head out of your ass first. Then you might find a woman who wants to date you. You're being very unreasonable and selfish. A relationship is a two-way street, you can't be an as*hole and expect a perfect partner. If i was less polite, I would tell you to grow up.


This X2.



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02 Sep 2017, 10:46 pm

As has been shown, plenty of male shaming to go around. OP might be a bit misguided, as everyone has the ability to self improve in at least some way - and going off that, if you actually take the time to learn anything about hypergamy, things get much simpler. No need for typical nonsense about being "nice-but-not-too-nice" or having "aspirations"(money) or whatever other drivel that gets spouted everywhere. If you really push yourself and understand love is a contract, you'll probably do fine with brief relationships. That is, if they don't pass some new laws about relationship rape.


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02 Sep 2017, 10:52 pm

@Boxman: my middle name is "Male Shaming". Boo hoo.



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03 Sep 2017, 12:52 am

Boxman108 wrote:
As has been shown, plenty of male shaming to go around. OP might be a bit misguided, as everyone has the ability to self improve in at least some way - and going off that, if you actually take the time to learn anything about hypergamy, things get much simpler. No need for typical nonsense about being "nice-but-not-too-nice" or having "aspirations"(money) or whatever other drivel that gets spouted everywhere. If you really push yourself and understand love is a contract, you'll probably do fine with brief relationships. That is, if they don't pass some new laws about relationship rape.


I think the problem is they can't even get one woman to go out with them. It's stretching reality a bit to think they can have a string of short relationships when they find dating difficult in the first place.



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03 Sep 2017, 12:53 am

luminifera wrote:
> "normies"
> "6.5/10 male", "6/10 female"

Dude, get your head out of your ass first. Then you might find a woman who wants to date you. You're being very unreasonable and selfish. A relationship is a two-way street, you can't be an as*hole and expect a perfect partner. If i was less polite, I would tell you to grow up.


He was joking.



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03 Sep 2017, 12:56 am

Don't be cruel to boxman.
Just because it's an easy target to hit, doesn't mean you should.



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03 Sep 2017, 1:00 am

I'm not actually sure everyone can knock less desirable traits on the head.

How do you know if it's your monotone voice that is off putting? Even if you find that out. How do you change it.

What if it's your mannerisms. Aspie guys do seem to have different mannerisms I've noticed. How do you train yourself out of the way you stand naturally and how you move your arms and the way you walk.

What about my aspie female acquaintances. How do they tone down their intensity when that's just how they feel about things.

Should people change that much of themselves just to date. Will the old version, who they really are, not fight to come through. Will they then be living a lie about who they are and feel unhappy?



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03 Sep 2017, 1:16 am

Sometime World, you don't need to rush. I think what the people you're partying with are probably saying is that you need to lay back and stop worrying so much about not getting dates. They're probably not even trying to imply that you should go out of your way and do something crazy. Normies? Ah geeze, that "reddit.com" phrase.



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03 Sep 2017, 1:17 am

hurtloam wrote:
I'm not actually sure everyone can knock less desirable traits on the head.

How do you know if it's your monotone voice that is off putting? Even if you find that out. How do you change it.

What if it's your mannerisms. Aspie guys do seem to have different mannerisms I've noticed. How do you train yourself out of the way you stand naturally and how you move your arms and the way you walk.

What about my aspie female acquaintances. How do they tone down their intensity when that's just how they feel about things.

Should people change that much of themselves just to date. Will the old version, who they really are, not fight to come through. Will they then be living a lie about who they are and feel unhappy?


It's not your voice, it's never the voice.
What are your eyes like?



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03 Sep 2017, 1:23 am

you mean someone blames "me" For "my" lack of dating?

no one i know is mad enough to stick his nose where it doesn't belong, because they know i grab the face, bite the nose off and spit it on the floor. i guess they prefer to mind their own business.



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03 Sep 2017, 1:34 am

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hurtloam wrote:
I'm not actually sure everyone can knock less desirable traits on the head.

How do you know if it's your monotone voice that is off putting? Even if you find that out. How do you change it.

What if it's your mannerisms. Aspie guys do seem to have different mannerisms I've noticed. How do you train yourself out of the way you stand naturally and how you move your arms and the way you walk.

What about my aspie female acquaintances. How do they tone down their intensity when that's just how they feel about things.

Should people change that much of themselves just to date. Will the old version, who they really are, not fight to come through. Will they then be living a lie about who they are and feel unhappy?


It's not your voice, it's never the voice.
What are your eyes like?



In my case it may be my voice. I have a really middle class English accent that I may have picked up from tv growing up in the uk.

Regular folks don't want to pair up with a posh bird.

Apparently I have big eyes lol.



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03 Sep 2017, 8:41 am

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That doesn't make sense...Biology is the study of how biological things work, and evolution the word for when species change/progress to adapt to their environment. Its observation/study of how nature works...making them neutral things not things with an agenda.


Exactly. It is feminism and "blank-slate" people that have agendas, not people that are using evolutionary reasons for human behavior.



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03 Sep 2017, 9:31 am

hurtloam wrote:
I'm not actually sure everyone can knock less desirable traits on the head.

How do you know if it's your monotone voice that is off putting? Even if you find that out. How do you change it.

What if it's your mannerisms. Aspie guys do seem to have different mannerisms I've noticed. How do you train yourself out of the way you stand naturally and how you move your arms and the way you walk.

I know exactly why girls didn't like me when I was young, like late teens thru early 20's: I was UGLY. By that, I mean disgustingly ugly. I hated my looks with passionate vitriol. Girls at a party said I was gross (face, not hygiene), one waitress said I had creepy eyes, bartenders ignored me, girls online rated me 3 out of 10, etc. And those are just average examples.

At one point, I had enough, and went to a consultation for plastic surgery. The doctor gave me a quote of around $10,000, and said there'd be a 6-week recovery and aftercare period. I didn't have $10,000 or 6 weeks of time. He must have had a moment of kindness, because he waived the $50 consultation fee after he saw how upset I got. Can you blame me? It meant I was going to be stuck with an ugly face for at least another decade, possible for life.

Thankfully, by late 20's, I must have aged into my looks somehow, putting myself solidly into the "average" league. I know that, because women are now way more comfortable with me; they no longer act like they just stepped on a dog turd when I come within 3 feet of them. When I went on a cruise, traditionally attractive women talked to me as an equal and even danced with me. The very type who would have pushed me away with a dirty mop just 10 years earlier.



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03 Sep 2017, 12:29 pm

hurtloam wrote:
Boxman108 wrote:
As has been shown, plenty of male shaming to go around. OP might be a bit misguided, as everyone has the ability to self improve in at least some way - and going off that, if you actually take the time to learn anything about hypergamy, things get much simpler. No need for typical nonsense about being "nice-but-not-too-nice" or having "aspirations"(money) or whatever other drivel that gets spouted everywhere. If you really push yourself and understand love is a contract, you'll probably do fine with brief relationships. That is, if they don't pass some new laws about relationship rape.


I think the problem is they can't even get one woman to go out with them. It's stretching reality a bit to think they can have a string of short relationships when they find dating difficult in the first place.


That can be frustrating, but them some take it to the level where they're constantly pissed off at women because they haven't gotten one to go out with them yet and then they expect women to gravitate towards them and date them...well no woman is going to want to date a guy who's pissed at them by default unless they agree to be his girlfriend.

But yeah I am not saying all guys who don't have a relationship are like that...but guys who haven't gotten a relationship and get that kind of attitude are certainly getting in their own way of ever getting one. I mean sometimes if you can't find a relationship you might have to make some changes/improvements to yourself...if you're bitter you may need to work on that.


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03 Sep 2017, 12:39 pm

hurtloam wrote:
I'm not actually sure everyone can knock less desirable traits on the head.

How do you know if it's your monotone voice that is off putting? Even if you find that out. How do you change it.

What if it's your mannerisms. Aspie guys do seem to have different mannerisms I've noticed. How do you train yourself out of the way you stand naturally and how you move your arms and the way you walk.

What about my aspie female acquaintances. How do they tone down their intensity when that's just how they feel about things.

Should people change that much of themselves just to date. Will the old version, who they really are, not fight to come through. Will they then be living a lie about who they are and feel unhappy?


I think they should find and work on actual negative character traits and things, not act like a different person with different mannerisms and a different voice. Then you get the problem of a person falling in love with the person you pretend to be and that can cause all kinds of problems.


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