When you run into a brick wall near your 30s

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Ah, that might provide the motivation to be more outgoing then. It's not because the new people are actually super interesting, but because it allows you to preemptively build a positive picture of who you are for them before someone tears you down in an attempt to make themselves appear better.

Aren't all the guys there basically "minimum wage guys"? I'm sure some of them have success at establishing relationships with members of the opposite gender. Since they have some of the same limitations as you, pay attention to what they do differently. Definitely we may have limitations compared to some people, but they're not entirely insurmountable.

Most of them are either retired, working this as a second job for discounts, or working here while going to college. There's another guy in my department who is physically disabled and works 8 hours. Most the girls are 18-23 and going to college. The others are older married women wth kids. I'm like the only person there in 30s who this is it for me. Everyone else is working as a stepping stone to something better or part time for the discounts. Women don't seem to respect s guy who works min wage part time

Ya Oregon is kinda messed up with the different county pays, while its true you might make more in your county, it also means the cost of things there are probably slightly higher than me as well. By the time you're done factoring in the difference in costs with things, its probably a bit more even

I know food cost less here then Missouri and they get $7 hour min wage.
Rent keeps going up though.

They wanted to raise whole state to $15 an hour eventually but republicans stopped that and that's why we have the 3 sections that are and raise different each year. It's confusing.

It's funny, because their compromise spits in the face of small government ideals that supposedly motivate conservatives and the egalitarian ideas that allegedly motivate much of the left. That said, if it works it's better than nothing. I suppose time will tell.




Ugh, that sounds like a depressing environment. As much as I hated call centre work, it was nice having a lot of approximate peers around. I imagine to some extent part of what turns people off about part-time workers is that living indepedently on part time, minimum wage income is effectively impossible. Even if they really like that person, they also like to imagine being able to live independently with their SigOth, so if they don't believe that's likely to happen it makes that person appear to not be very suitable as a long-term partner.

One piece of advise I stole from another thread...



Can you hit the target more times with 5 shots or 500? Even if you miss 95% of the time, with 500 rounds expended you've hit 25 times. With 5 rounds fired there's only a 25% chance you hit even once. Combine that with what is likely a lower pressure technique and you might find better outcomes, no promises though.

So you agree my situation is hopeless.

I'll reply to the rest later. Shift starts in 2 mins

I don't agree it's hopeless, but I can understand feeling it's hopeless. I'd say it's incredibly difficult. That said, success in this regard is kind of like not drowning for a shark - they need to stay moving in order to not die, and humans need to remain hopeful in order to not die, losing hope opens us up to all sorts of self-destructive behaviours that end up eliminating further sources of hope, creating a viscous cycle.

I wonder if another job environment might be better. It sounds like options are limited, but it might the sort of thing that you have no choice but to change if you want things to get better.

Have a good shift, I should be at work too right now but I'm too sick to last 10 hours.

You could try the mail-order bride route. I would of done that if I had the money & resources