What do I need to do differently (reboot)

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Most of us can't take a hint? ( )

Also who cares about age? Like 100 years is short anyways. You two should date and try it. If it doesn't work, be friends.

Yes I'm being forward. You said you had a year left before you give up.

My post wasn't directed at you.

I can't even get a date. I am the odd man out no matter what I try. The answer is either "No" or I don't get a response at all.

I've actually been recommended to wait until I am 30 to commit suicide.

30 is your prime tho. I mean if I were going to kill myself it'd probably be like 60? If I were even going to? I'd like to think I'm making it uncomfortable for the ones who make life hard for me. That my burden is silently afflicting these neurotypicals that have no care in the world for me. I don't know. Should I blame the world? If it keeps telling me I'm defective I'm bound to troll that.

But that's a cynical approach and highly inappropriate. How dare you sir??

I should just point out - were in the same boat. Your not making this any easier for me by quitting out earlier. Let's both try to get a date and at least if you get one before me - I can be sure there's some possibility. That I don't feel like I'm wasting my time.

He just doesn’t like ME is all. Coming up with a thoughtful suggestion and what I’ve learned through mostly bad experiences of my own apparently constitute “attacks.” I’m used to it, though. People are often reactionary to others who legitimately challenge their status quo. Had anything I ever said been an actual ATTACK, mods would have gotten involved. Trust me, I KNOW! lol

Anyway, religion has little to do with it. Ayn Rand was an atheist, and most of her followers rejected religion. Objectivism first of all relies on a narrow view of reason to exclude anything not perceived through the 5 classical senses, and secondly emphatically rejects altruism as a moral alternative. They view Jesus as the embodiment of altruism and thus hold Christianity in contempt. I’m sure you can guess where “classic” Rand Objectivists and I part ways. But I have concluded that rational self-interest is a thing. I was merely suggesting looking at Objectivism and rational self-interest as a different way of looking at the world and the role of the individual. Rand certainly would not have demanded anyone walk lock-step with culture or society while sacrificing one’s self, one’s individuality, one’s ego. However, Rand would point out the value of other people in helping an individual attain his goals.

I had in mind how Marknis seems locked in a protracted war of attrition against Bible Belt culture. A book like “The Fountainhead” could easily be read as an allegory of one person maintaining integrity while standing firmly against the conformist cultural machine. Understanding what you’re fighting against can often help someone adjust and adapt in ways that help him get closer to achieving his goals.

I agree.

We have a distance issue, though. I say we crowdfund it. One weekend, that’s all. Are you in?

I would seriously fund that. I'm completely broke right now. Verizon pulled an underhanded tactic on me making me broke.

Those b¡+¢#ë$.

I’m on Cspire. We prepay the full year, so we never have to worry about any nasty surprises. The worst that ever happens to us is like when my phone went for a swim. Emergency fund $300 got me back up and running and I didn’t miss a beat, but everyone else is nickel /dimeing us to death. Being broke sucks.

I could probably chip in $30, though.

OP - removing a lot of posts makes a thread thereafter unintelligible, and that would have been the case yesterday in your first thread on this topic.

Now this thread has become derailed again in the way you don't want with posts on the red pill stuff and Rand that might be better suited to and located in the PPR forum, though I can see why certain posters are pushing them here too.

The only feasible solution for you perhaps is to open another thread on this in The Haven, where there are different rules. We can lock or remove this one if you wish that to occur.

Ok, I get the bit about redpill because Marknis specifically did not want redpill rhetoric. And I know Marknis doesn’t want me saying anything optimistic about the Bible Belt or injecting Christian ethics into a dating discussion. So I suggest something out of my own normal only to find out we can’t discuss Objectivist ethics and how that might help with interpersonal relations to include dating?

I feel like I’m 4th down and 20 here. What CAN we talk about?

Why is 30 a person’s prime? Seems a bit naive. Some people might not hit their prime until their mid 40s. I’m 32 and haven’t hit mine, though plenty of idiots have told me that it’s all over for me, I don’t believe them for a second.

Also, although it’s easy to fantasize how regretful and sad people will be if you kill yourself, the reality is, they won’t care. They might say “That’s a shame” then 5 minutes later they forget about it and get on with their lives. (Exception being family).

People really need to get past this “gotta make it by 30 or my life is over” mentality, it’s naive, stupid and untrue.

[quote="AngelRho"]Ok, I get the bit about redpill because Marknis specifically did not want redpill rhetoric. And I know Marknis doesn’t want me saying anything optimistic about the Bible Belt or injecting Christian ethics into a dating discussion. So I suggest something out of my own normal only to find out we can’t discuss Objectivist ethics and how that might help with interpersonal relations to include dating?

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You can create your own thread of course, and you have already discussed objectivist ethics in PPR, so you know they are not banned. Reddit has a lot of posted topics on Rand and Redpill too, if you can't get your needs to discuss it at greater length met on WP.

OP I have no idea what the hell you want at this point, seems like you're just fishing for validation. "I want advice" - rejects all advice he is given...

Oh well.. but since you don't want any real or useful advice, I'm gonna stay out of this one. I know exactly what you need to do differently, but you're not receptive at all.

Ragnahawk you are sooooooooooooooooo naughty.

I probably would date him if I lived near him and was about 15 years younger - I am practically old enough to be his mother my dear and yours.

It breaks my heart to see all these marvellous young men and women struggling to find someone to call their own when they are perfectly charming, intelligent and compassionate.

I completely agree, Hale_bopp, and I consider myself to be in my prime too - I am 48 next year.

I started a new career recently spending most of my early forties studying knowing I would be nearing the other end before I was qualified.

I had a 12/13 year break from boyfriends and decided last year I would get one through online dating and it worked until I found we were not so compatible and I had lost most my energy. I will probably think about love and dating again next year but for now I am concentrating on getting my mojo back and resting from all those things which have accumulated to bring me apathy and exhaustion. My next move is to do nothing but enjoyable pastimes.

My friend found love at 54(online) and the couple up the road in their 60's(local club).

Blimey when I was about 30 I was only just beginning to figure out what I wanted and what the world was all about for me. I have always loved life and it is probably easier for me to say.

So my question is the same as before - where will you find love Marknis? There is someone out there for you. You have already had a relationship regardless of whether it worked out or not - nothing is guaranteed in this world.

This is where you may need to get creative - and if you don't have this kind of thinking then use us - we are here.

^See???

Some people don’t hit their prime until they’re 50, or 60. May I go out on a limb and say you may not hit your prime until the day you die?

What are your values? What makes a person their best?

I would say true happiness, wisdom, self acceptance and acceptance of others. Learning and practicing kindness, self success, health and wellness, self achievement.

People stuck on it being about looks and who you’ve dated or whether you’ve bred..... Like you’re some fruit that starts to go rotten at 30. That’s really sad. Please for your own sake grow up. I won’t be rotting till I’m 6 feet under.

Can we at least agree this should be his last thread on this subject? If he is unwilling to take any advice due to wanting to preserve his individuality and realizes that will cause him to be alone in the current state of the world probably, can we AT LEAST prevent him from making more threads of this nature. I've seen so many by this guy in my short time here its insane.