During a meltdown I hit my gf..

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17 Dec 2017, 5:01 am

NamelessNinja42 wrote:
Thank you guys. Honestly we had good times, but she is overly sensitive and I’m insensitive, she’s over dramatic. It’s a good things it’s over. l believe l was in the wrong but do any of you lose complete control when your meltdown gets so bad? She’s pushed me to that point multiple times. Caused me to say things l didn’t mean.
I've said LOTS of hateful stuff to my parents when I was having a meltdown cuz of they didn't understand & were very critical of my issues. I've heard of some autistics acting physically aggressive when having meltdowns. If physically hurting others or yourself when having a meltdown is at least an occasional thing with you, I would highly recommend seeing a psych to try & work on things if your not already weather it's counseling, psych meds, anger management classes, something else or a combination of things. You don't want anyone to go to the police or anything.


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17 Dec 2017, 4:05 pm

I have people in my family with somehow similar issues - they can be very agresive when melt down. And many adults make it worse by fighting back or trying to persuade them.
I was quick to learn that when the agression was ignored, they quickly calmed down and apologized.
I don't know if they were all autistic or not. Well, they all have some additional ASD traits... so maybe some ASD men have this.
I hope you find someone able to learn this.


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17 Dec 2017, 4:35 pm

This is a tricky situation now that she purposely bruised her arm and told her parents you did it.

Up until that point, No, IMO you were not in the wrong At All. You told her, repeatedly, what you needed. She also knows how you are from experience. Even at the point where you struck her, technically someone may find fault in that, but I do not. She provoked you & pushed and pushed and pushed until you snapped - Her Fault - especially since you told her over and over you needed space AND she knows how you are and what's likely to happen if she persists.

Reminds me of fights with my siblings as a kid when I'd get so fired up and ask one of them over and Over and OVER to leave me alone and they'd just keep yapping in my face then I'd flat out say "I don't want to fight! I don't want to hit you! Get away from me and just stop it!" and then the words kept coming and they'd be in my face until.. *SMACK* & off they ran to tell mom & dad. :roll: :evil: :oops: So, I can relate. Fortunately for me in that instance I was believed and our parents may have even Heard me saying to leave me alone, that I didn't want to hit anyone etc. I didn't get in trouble, the other got told to listen when told to leave someone alone or suffer getting hit.

Do you have any witnesses? Anyone who could have seen you trying to put space between you and her? Anyone who could have heard you asking her to leave you alone and for space so that you could calm down?

Maybe premature and overkill, but do you have an official diagnosis & doctor that could sign off on your version of events as being very typical of Autistic behaviour? That you did everything within your reasonable ability to control yourself and the situation and it was her that persisted and provoked you until you snapped? That could be helpful if this gets messy.


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17 Dec 2017, 6:26 pm

Just speaking from my own experience, I've known women who purposely get in men's faces and try to goad them into hitting them.

I consider this a form of manipulation/emotional abuse.

You're right to want to be as far away from her as possible.


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17 Dec 2017, 6:29 pm

^^ Yes. This is definitely a thing. Red red flag, get far far away. And stay far away.


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18 Dec 2017, 4:45 am

XFilesGeek wrote:
Just speaking from my own experience, I've known women who purposely get in men's faces and try to goad them into hitting them.

I consider this a form of manipulation/emotional abuse.

You're right to want to be as far away from her as possible.

My brother did this to me in childhood - he provoked me to the point I hit him and then run to the parents and cried with poorly masked satisfaction: "She hit me! She hit me!"
My parents did mainly nothing about it for either of us.
Now he still likes to provoke people but at least he knows it is his dark side.
I guess the women you mention did not learn that they are the abusers. Probably because of the social norm.


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18 Dec 2017, 6:21 am

Let’s be real, we all know the OP is gonna lose and be messed because he is a man, and she is a woman.

They won’t believe his side of the story at all.

Moral of the story, a man must not hit a woman no matter what, even in self defense situation, a man should try to avoid hitting a woman unless his life is threatened.



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18 Dec 2017, 3:11 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Let’s be real, we all know the OP is gonna lose and be messed because he is a man, and she is a woman.

They won’t believe his side of the story at all.

Moral of the story, a man must not hit a woman no matter what, even in self defense situation, a man should try to avoid hitting a woman unless his life is threatened.


We all know all of this.

What we also know is that someone having an Autistic Meltdown cannot control their physical impulsive responses to the situation causing distress. He did the right thing by repeatedly trying to distance himself from her & telling her he Needed space. He made every possible effort he could and SHE continued to push him until he snapped & lashed out with a physical strike. It sucks that it happened, but I can definitely relate & feel the OP is Not in the wrong given what I know about the state he was in when it happened.


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23 Dec 2017, 1:29 am

NamelessNinja42 wrote:
Today my girlfriend and I got into a big fight, and I broke up with her after.. I started having a meltdown. I needed badly to be left alone, so I said nicely please leave me alone, I just need at least 5 minutes alone to calm down please. I couldn’t think properly, I couldn’t do anything. She continued to say, “just talk to me” and wouldn’t leave me alone. I told her again 20 plus times to please leave me alone. Not screaming, nice, just please.. and she knows that I need space when I get like this. She continued to say just talk to me.. I locked myself in a closet to gather my thoughts away from her and calm myself down, and she found a way to open it.. I asked her again for space to calm down and she continued so I pushed her out of the way, and ran off to be alone. She followed me and I asked for the last time before I gently pushed her again and she followed again, I was having a full blown meltdown by this point and she got in my face telling me to talk to her and I hit her.. not hard and I don’t believe it hurt her but afterwards she banged her arm on the door, made bruises, and told her parents.. Am I in the wrong when I explained to her what I needed 100 times?


Yes you are in the wrong for hitting her.