Do we have any kinda competitive edge against N.t

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I'm somewhere between a "nerd" and a "regular guy."

Are you calling older single mothers desperate? Because if so, I find it ironic you calling older single mothers desperate when older single mothers are probably more selective than younger single women without children, and the biggest demographic of desperation as far as finding mates goes is the young, shy,heterosexual male demographic who will take...or at least who think they will take, just about anyone as long as they are female. That being said, I don't believe most older single mothers are really all that desperate. She can have low standards, certainly, but desperation is a different story. Desperation implies the person will take literally almost anyone who will take them.

Im sorry if i offended anyone. I could of worded this better. And avoided this.

Oh, come on! I’m gay and even I can see that pretty young things w/o kids are considered much more attractive by most men, and that older women passed their “prime,” with a kid or two are much less desirable, in general terms. I’m sure they have a lot more difficulty dating than 21 yo college cuties. Maybe they’re not all desperate, but in general there’s going to be a whole lot more settling for what they can get in their demographic.

Im going to offer a blank apology to all offended. Anyone i labeled and to all.

Now can an admin delete this entire thread. I regret starting it

Are we really going to pretend that there is some average looking or even somewhat ugly single mother in her late 30s or 40s that no guy would date or even have sex with? Truly desperate women don't stay single long. They might not get the highest caliber guy but that's irrelevant to someone who is desperate.

Prostitution was a profitable profession for this lady.





Their priorities might change but the same is true of a lot of men as they get older. A lot of times as people get older they value practicality more and have less patience for drama.

Don’t give up on the pursuit of love.

Many women like unconventional guys—yes, including nerdy/geeky guys.

It’s not just the guys with 6-packs and tats. I have neither. And never will.

It's your life, others aren't able to decide what you do. And if you're asking if dating will ever be easy, the answer is no, never. Not for anyone.

There's more geeks than there is demand for them. If you're just another geek don't expect anybody to be interested; you've got to stand out in some way.

So would you "approve" of a guy as opposed to reject, if you saw that he has a six pack?

We have an edge in being boyishly cute. Just look confused and girls will think you're cute. Seriously, all but one of my girlfriends said I look cute when I act like a confused nerd.

It's why Brent Spiner got so much fan mail from women when he played Data. This quality we have is what I like to call adorkable. Girls love it and we have it. Be adorkable and girls will want to be with you.

Around 75% of all men in Western society are married, so if your research is accurate, 75% of men should be tall, muscular powerhouses who need to constantly push a wheelbarrow around to support their junk, which would otherwise be dragging on the ground behind them, leaving furrows in the ground.

Somehow, though, when I look around at all the married men I see at work, or in a social setting, or out shopping with their wives, that's not what I observe. I wonder why?


Alfalfa males are more desirable because they get all the alfalfa (hence the name). Women, of course, are driven by an innate biological drive to accumulate as much alfalfa as they possibly can to build a nest to give birth in. So, naturally, they are attracted to the males with the most alfalfa.



Alfalfa males are contrasted to Beeta males, so called because, denied the alfalfa, they accumulate beets. While beets do provide solid nourishment for the growing child, through an unfortunate evolutionary snafu, women tend not to think that far ahead and so are instinctively attracted to the males with the most alfalfa rather than beets. Just like men instinctively accumulate as much alfalfa or beets as they can. This situation leads to the dejection of Beeta males everywhere and explains the rapidly diminishing numbers of humans on the planet.



Sorry. While I try to take this nonsense as seriously as I can, I figure if we're going to engage in flat-earth biology, we might as well have fun with it.

On the other hand, maybe — just maybe — women are like men, with varying tastes and proclivities. Some go for muscular powerhouses. Some like shy sensitive types. Some like other women. Some aren't interested in sex and/or romance at all. It's kinda all over the place. Just like some men compulsively accumulate alfalfa. Or beets. Or money. Or Star Wars figures. Or rocks. And some don't...

I know Aspies like nice, simple, absolute answers, but sometimes the simplest answer is "It depends..."

Anyway,

Who writes the rules of the game?
Do you think that the people who write the rules are going to produce rules that give anyone else a competitive edge?
If they accidentally do produce such rules, how long do you think it will be before they correct the oversight?

No, dating isn't nearly that mathematical. Women are exactly like men in this regard - we see a physically attractive man, and begin to feel attracted. We then want to learn more about him.

I would never date a guy just because he has a six pack (the guy I'm seeing now doesn't, but is still in good shape). But physical fitness is part of what sparks the initial desire. Then you learn about the person to decide whether or not something romantic can be pursued. But if the woman is not physically attracted, it stops there. This goes for men and women.

For me, being in good shape is only one factor. The rest is a combination of nebulous factors called chemistry. But again, the chemistry can't begin if someone isn't physically attracted to the other.

I like it when people use logic and observation.

Yes, 75% of people get married, eventually. Most of these people, definitely, are not supermodels or have intense six-packs. Some of them are even "ugly" and have a low standard of hygiene.

Will some admin kill this thread. Its gotten out of hand. Gone way beyond .

Sorry about that, buddy.

But you should realize that you shouldn't give up because you're a "nerd" or whatever.