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24 Jul 2018, 3:22 pm

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Men typically become more desirable as dating partners as they get older. This isn't true for most women.

https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-a ... ger-women/
Here is some data to back that up.


I don't think that's true at all. :D There's a lot of desire for "Milfs", "Cougars", older women, etc. IMO, it's all about mindset and putting yourself out there.



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24 Jul 2018, 4:17 pm

I vaguely remember you.

Good on you for pulling yourself out of that pit.


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24 Jul 2018, 5:10 pm

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Thanks for your post MR20, it was very good and informative! :)

I'm glad you were able to reevaluate and change yourself to a more healthy outlook, that is something that takes a lot of effort and determination. I think it's important to realize that although people who have ideas like that are toxic, they are also often suffering, and so it is wrong to think they are irredeemable and can't change. It's very easy to take one step away from depression and self-loathing and have it turn into hate of others or blaming a specific group. In any case, I'm glad you managed to reconsider, I hope that it helps you to accept yourself and be more positive, I think you will find that others are more likely to accept you then as well.


This is why I have sympathy for some incels. I used to think like them and had similar views. (not the psychotic ones of course) Maybe it's due to certain parts of societal norms or something that happened to them during adolescence.

The main issue (aside from the entitlement) is that they place so MUCH value on sex and relationships, to the point that it's completely warped their view of the world in general.



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24 Jul 2018, 5:13 pm

I have sympathy for some who are "involuntarily celibate." I know the feeling pretty well LOL

I don't have it, though, for those who make a political agenda out of it. Who start talking crap about women, and about themselves. And come up with all these hairbrained theories about why they can't "get" a woman.l



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24 Jul 2018, 6:01 pm

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I have sympathy for some who are "involuntarily celibate." I know the feeling pretty well LOL

I don't have it, though, for those who make a political agenda out of it. Who start talking crap about women, and about themselves. And come up with all these hairbrained theories about why they can't "get" a woman.l



Yeah I'm not sure women would want to date someone who hates them as a sex. And there is a such thing as "femcels". Look it up, Female incels! They seem to have the same issues as males. One of the first things that popped in my mind is why won't they just date each other. :lol:



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24 Jul 2018, 6:43 pm

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I didn't "jump to another extreme", I just stopped pitying myself and realized that the issues I have are my own and mine alone to deal with.

I mean the whole "it's all my fault" and "stop placing so much important on sex and relationship" stuff. I think you are sort of overdoing it, just chill and focus on bettering yourself without such useless and irrelevant thoughts.
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Men typically become more desirable as dating partners as they get older. This isn't true for most women.

https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-a ... ger-women/
Here is some data to back that up.

It's useless to say such things on these forums, don't even bother. Margaritas ante porcos.



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24 Jul 2018, 7:19 pm

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MR20 wrote:
I didn't "jump to another extreme", I just stopped pitying myself and realized that the issues I have are my own and mine alone to deal with.

I mean the whole "it's all my fault" and "stop placing so much important on sex and relationship" stuff. I think you are sort of overdoing it, just chill and focus on bettering yourself without such useless and irrelevant thoughts.
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Men typically become more desirable as dating partners as they get older. This isn't true for most women.

https://www.zoosk.com/date-mix/dating-a ... ger-women/
Here is some data to back that up.

It's useless to say such things on these forums, don't even bother. Margaritas ante porcos.


I'm pretty chill. I think you're misrepresenting my post(s), and are assuming things based on that.



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25 Jul 2018, 1:45 am

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I'm pretty chill. I think you're misrepresenting my post(s), and are assuming things based on that.

I don't think I misrepresent anything. I have read your first post and I think you overdo it, but you can keep on this way if you like it and disregard my advice.



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25 Jul 2018, 10:53 am

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MR20 wrote:
I'm pretty chill. I think you're misrepresenting my post(s), and are assuming things based on that.

I don't think I misrepresent anything. I have read your first post and I think you overdo it, but you can keep on this way if you like it and disregard my advice.


I don’t “beat myself up” about the things in my post. Those things are in my past and I brought them up to show how I’ve changed my views and attitude on life. Maybe that can help some of people that are going what I went through on here. I don’t feel any bitterness and I’m not miserable or depressed, so that’s why I think you’re misrepresenting my posts.



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25 Jul 2018, 11:11 am

Now....if your screen name was M80, I might start to wonder :P



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25 Jul 2018, 11:17 am

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If I were you I'd try to put less effort on self-blame and more on improving myself.


He already has.

Everything that MR20 posted in his original post is written in the past tense. Meaning he is no longer dwelling on self-blame and moved into taking responsibility for his behavior and his actions.

He literally has already done (and continues to do) everything that you suggest.


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25 Jul 2018, 12:38 pm

MR20 wrote:
I don’t “beat myself up” about the things in my post. Those things are in my past and I brought them up to show how I’ve changed my views and attitude on life. Maybe that can help some of people that are going what I went through on here. I don’t feel any bitterness and I’m not miserable or depressed, so that’s why I think you’re misrepresenting my posts.

When I say self-blame I don't mean your incel-like phase. You have understood your problem, now if I were you I'd try to change things in my life to better myself so I am more attractive. But if you'd rather stay in your current situation, ok.
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He already has.

Everything that MR20 posted in his original post is written in the past tense. Meaning he is no longer dwelling on self-blame and moved into taking responsibility for his behavior and his actions.

He literally has already done (and continues to do) everything that you suggest.

You don't understand what I mean I think. Before he was blaming others I suppose and being angsty (incel phase), now he is blaming himself (too much imho). That is good and all, but as I said acknowledging a problem doesn't mean putting effort into resolving it.



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21 Jul 2019, 3:21 pm

Necro bump!

I've been feeling kinda down lately, so it was nice to come back and see how far I've come from the person I've been in the past to who I am now.

I once again thank the posters that are still on here for offering me advice and putting up with me even when I wouldn't listen.



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23 Jul 2019, 8:28 am

Success stories are not very popular around this part of the forum and the whole forum is about tree quarters dead these days, but good for you dude, keep up the good work :thumright:


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