Question to the ladies: Wouldn't you wish a life like this?

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13 Mar 2019, 5:55 am

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And you don't even need to have a such lifestyle either (shopping, outing..), imagine the total freedom and options that you will have to do with your life, like for example you can write a book! You can found a some humanitarian organization and help people! You can take courses and learn plenty of stuff! You can even work in some job just to fill time but without the stress and fear of losing it!

If you put it that way, that's me :P We're not super-rich but I do have plenty of options without financial stress.



...and that's an easy life magz, me as a man, I envy you for that life (Not trying to hex you), because I am 100% sure I will never have it (because of my gender and the gender role that virtually all women I met and will meet expect from me).

You just need a domestic worker, and voila, you will have a superb easy life, It's time to nag on your hubby for t hat.



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13 Mar 2019, 6:03 am

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And why are you guys assuming that they are treated and abused badly by their evil rich husbands? I don't witness that at all, what I see that they're laughing and enjoying their luxury life and relaxing .... I don't think it's easy to hide abuse on the faces. Yeah, I know such cases may exist, but come on, NOT EVERY woman married to wealthy man is abused, you are looking at the exceptions.

Most abuse cases come from the poor classes btw.

And you don't even need to have a such lifestyle either (shopping, outing..), imagine the total freedom and options that you will have to do with your life, fulfilling things, like for example you can write a book! You can found a some humanitarian organization and help people! You can take courses and learn plenty of stuff! You can even work in some job just to fill time but without the stress and fear of losing it!

It's a superb easy life!



@Boo,
I have all of that right now, independently, without a man / woman or partner paying my bills. I had a successful career, made sound investments, and now I am able to stay home full-time "writing a book", helping humanitarian organisations, and learning "plenty of stuff". I don't need to be a kept woman in order to do any of that. I can make my own decisions and I don't need to play Stepford Wives in order to earn the right.

You seem to forget that most autistic women don't feel comfortable hanging out with other women, dressing the part of something they may not be, spending on superfluous things or leaving the house at all if the mood doesn't strike them. This social "masking" in the picture (pretending everything is lovely while, meanwhile, depending on someone for your next dollar), is exhausting and degrading. I would assume the collateral in their relationship is sex. Not to pass judgement but I bet if these women stop sleeping with their husbands for whatever reason, they will be dumped. That's the image I see. I don't care to be kept in that way.

My other issue with the picture or the scenario is that those women have babies, and despite their ample free time they are paying someone else to raise their child. That's shameful. What is it teaching those children? That when we grow up, other people will provide for our needs especially if we're nice looking? That's the last example I'd want my child to learn.

Please remember we as women can earn our own money and raise our own children, and that we likely don't want that much of a social facade to get by. If we do have relationships, they are usually about love, respect and autonomy more than they are about wealth, acquisition, or appearance.


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13 Mar 2019, 6:06 am

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And why are you guys assuming that they are treated and abused badly by their evil rich husbands? I don't witness that at all, what I see that they're laughing and enjoying their luxury life and relaxing .... I don't think it's easy to hide abuse on the faces. Yeah, I know such cases may exist, but come on, NOT EVERY woman married to wealthy man is abused, you are looking at the exceptions.

Most abuse cases come from the poor classes btw.

And you don't even need to have a such lifestyle either (shopping, outing..), imagine the total freedom and options that you will have to do with your life, fulfilling things, like for example you can write a book! You can found a some humanitarian organization and help people! You can take courses and learn plenty of stuff! You can even work in some job just to fill time but without the stress and fear of losing it!

It's a superb easy life!



@Boo,
I have all of that right now, independently, without a man / woman or partner paying my bills. I had a successful career, made sound investments, and now I am able to stay home full-time "writing a book", helping humanitarian organisations, and learning "plenty of stuff". I don't need to be a kept woman in order to do any of that. I can make my own decisions and I don't need to play Stepford Wives in order to earn the right.
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But how old are you now? How long did it take to reach that?

If I recall right, you are a surgeon (or something similar?) who made like $300K a year, the rest of us mere mortals aren't that lucky.



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13 Mar 2019, 6:13 am

Nah, not really.

Maybe to be independently wealthy sure. But I don't want to have to rely on someone else for my lifestyle and my income. There's no self respect in that. And I sure as heck don't trust anyone else enough for that either.


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13 Mar 2019, 6:20 am

My last point, I promise:
If my partner was sufficiently wealthy that I could stay home with our child, then that's lovely. I do see merit in staying home to raise my own children. However, during that time I would contribute to the family by actually DOING something of value such as cleaning my own house, raising my own children, making the family's meals and helping to curb expenditures in any way possible so I could save for my child's future. I sure as hell wouldn't spend my time drinking lattes with a bunch of women while other people are paid my partner's salary to clean the house and raise our baby.

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13 Mar 2019, 6:23 am

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My last point, I promise:
If my partner was sufficiently wealthy that I could stay home with our child, then that's lovely. I do see merit in staying home to raise my own children. However, during that time I would contribute to the family by actually DOING something of value such as cleaning my own house, raising my own children, making the family's meals and helping to curb expenditures in any way possible so I could save for my child's future. I sure as hell wouldn't spend my time drinking lattes with a bunch of women while other people are paid my partner's salary to clean the house and raise our baby.

Rant over.


So you didn't make $300K a year?



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13 Mar 2019, 6:25 am

I'm not a woman, but I'd love to live a life of complete financial independence, on my own terms.



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13 Mar 2019, 6:32 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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My last point, I promise:
If my partner was sufficiently wealthy that I could stay home with our child, then that's lovely. I do see merit in staying home to raise my own children. However, during that time I would contribute to the family by actually DOING something of value such as cleaning my own house, raising my own children, making the family's meals and helping to curb expenditures in any way possible so I could save for my child's future. I sure as hell wouldn't spend my time drinking lattes with a bunch of women while other people are paid my partner's salary to clean the house and raise our baby.

Rant over.


So you didn't make $300K a year?


I had a very nice salary, but that's not the point. Your point is that I should be happy living off someone else's salary. I wouldn't do that unless I was contributing equally to the relationship by raising our children and keeping our house to save on expenses. That way we would both be contributing work of value. I don't see shopping with a clique of fancy friends and nannies to be valuable, enviable or remotely interesting.


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13 Mar 2019, 6:33 am

IsabellaLinton wrote:
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IsabellaLinton wrote:
My last point, I promise:
If my partner was sufficiently wealthy that I could stay home with our child, then that's lovely. I do see merit in staying home to raise my own children. However, during that time I would contribute to the family by actually DOING something of value such as cleaning my own house, raising my own children, making the family's meals and helping to curb expenditures in any way possible so I could save for my child's future. I sure as hell wouldn't spend my time drinking lattes with a bunch of women while other people are paid my partner's salary to clean the house and raise our baby.

Rant over.


So you didn't make $300K a year?


I had a very nice salary, but that's not the point. Your point is that I should be happy living off someone else's salary. I wouldn't do that unless I was contributing equally to the relationship by raising our children and keeping our house to save on expenses. That way we would both be contributing work of value. I don't see shopping with a clique of fancy friends and nannies to be valuable, enviable or remotely interesting.



The shopping/clique lifestyle wasn't the main point of the topic though.



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13 Mar 2019, 6:41 am

Boo, domestic help could be about keeping our apartament clean and groceries done but no one except me can support my husband and raise my children. It's about emotions and relationships, tricky for an autistic person but if I didn't do it, we would have a little hell here with obviously immature children plus poor social skills of the adults.
For my husband, inventing technologies someone pays him for is way easier and more natural than managing a little Aspie girl in a meltdown or remembering names of your daughter's friends.
With my current health it's a full time job.


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13 Mar 2019, 6:52 am

A good instructive movie to see: “The Great Gatsby.”

It mocks this lifestyle, mocks the general life philosophy of the “idle rich.”



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13 Mar 2019, 7:50 am

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Boo, domestic help could be about keeping our apartament clean and groceries done but no one except me can support my husband and raise my children. It's about emotions and relationships, tricky for an autistic person but if I didn't do it, we would have a little hell here with obviously immature children plus poor social skills of the adults.
For my husband, inventing technologies someone pays him for is way easier and more natural than managing a little Aspie girl in a meltdown or remembering names of your daughter's friends.
With my current health it's a full time job.


Hell, I don't envy you anymore.

Do you regret having this life? To be a mom?



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13 Mar 2019, 7:54 am

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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
IsabellaLinton wrote:
My last point, I promise:
If my partner was sufficiently wealthy that I could stay home with our child, then that's lovely. I do see merit in staying home to raise my own children. However, during that time I would contribute to the family by actually DOING something of value such as cleaning my own house, raising my own children, making the family's meals and helping to curb expenditures in any way possible so I could save for my child's future. I sure as hell wouldn't spend my time drinking lattes with a bunch of women while other people are paid my partner's salary to clean the house and raise our baby.

Rant over.


So you didn't make $300K a year?


I had a very nice salary, but that's not the point. Your point is that I should be happy living off someone else's salary. I wouldn't do that unless I was contributing equally to the relationship by raising our children and keeping our house to save on expenses. That way we would both be contributing work of value. I don't see shopping with a clique of fancy friends and nannies to be valuable, enviable or remotely interesting.




Isabella, frankly I think you are being harsh on these women.

Some of them can be very responsible moms!




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13 Mar 2019, 8:01 am

No.


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13 Mar 2019, 8:09 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Boo, domestic help could be about keeping our apartament clean and groceries done but no one except me can support my husband and raise my children. It's about emotions and relationships, tricky for an autistic person but if I didn't do it, we would have a little hell here with obviously immature children plus poor social skills of the adults.
For my husband, inventing technologies someone pays him for is way easier and more natural than managing a little Aspie girl in a meltdown or remembering names of your daughter's friends.
With my current health it's a full time job.


Hell, I don't envy you anymore.

Do you regret having this life? To be a mom?

I wouldn't say I regret it... but honestly, I had no idea what I was signing for. I knew having children was going to be a challenge and mainly my responsibility but I had no idea what the hardest parts of parenting would be for me.


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13 Mar 2019, 8:20 am

This asking ladies feels so American to me and even so, I'm sure I've seen some toy boys who are nobodies but have rich wives. I think Vanessa Felps is with one? I certainly hadn't heard of him. He's married to her and has to keep in shape...

To me it's not much different to the life Prince Charles has been living for eg.

I'd prefer the life of a royal and not a married in royal either. Just think about it. All this but not for sex with a shallow person. You could have sex with whoever you wanted and because of who your grandma or mum was, you would have all the money and not have to do a day's work.

In a perfect world, I'd be poly. I'd have one handsome young man who I would treat like this. I'd have one wife who again I'd treat like this. They wouldn't envy each other. I'd have a job but not a proper job. My job right now isn't a proper job either. What I consider 'not a proper job' is for eg - Wayne Rooney got to have a better looking woman, money to afford prostitutes, and his 'job' was kicking a ball about. I'd be a footballer or an actor or singer or something. That's no more work than my poetry writing now is. Then I'd come home and have the sex I wanted.

Or I'd be born royal. Never have to do a day's work. Be able to marry who I wanted. Be immensely wealthy with little to no chance of ever losing it.