Marriage and child is no longer feasible [ranty]

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04 Apr 2019, 10:12 pm

Its not so much about actually getting married or having a child. It's about the choice itself being taken away.

I don't want to have kids, but I didn't really get to actually make the decision. Circumstances dictated that I cannot. To be fair, my Mum was born when her Mum was 40, so I could still have kids, but I'm the same age as boo. I'd need to meet someone and get to know them before deciding to have children with them, but yes development issues arise at this age in babies and I'd rather not risk it. Its a choice, but not the choice I had 10 years ago.

I read something random the other day, "Will you choose to get married? Will you choose to halve kids?" I laughed. I don't have a choice. You need a willing partner to make those decisions and I have no one to make those choices with. Odds are, I probably never will.

I can pretend I've made a choice based on my personal preferences, but I actually haven't chosen in reality.



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04 Apr 2019, 11:52 pm

That’s a added good point :cry:


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05 Apr 2019, 12:24 am

Not an uncle story but a cousin... XP He had married but she decided she didn't want kids so they divorced. He found someone else who was on board with having a family, and was younger than him. They had their first kid when he was over 40. He has three kids now and his youngest will be graduating high school when he is about 80. It's pretty extreme, but it is possible. He really wanted a family and felt he needed it to feel fulfilled so he got it to happen. There are certainly things that he would/will miss because of his age, but say he lives only to 80, that means his daughter got 18 years with him. That's 10 more than I got from my dad so it doesn't seem that awful to me.

It's a personal decision though. So if you feel you're too old to be having kids than that's a decision you made and your family ought to respect that.

Adoption would be an option though. Especially if you were to take on an older child(no 2am feedings!), they can be challenging but they are the ones that need it the most.


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05 Apr 2019, 12:34 am

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I’d bet his nation won’t allow a single man to adopt a kid. I don’t even think most agencies in the USA would.

I certainly will never be allowed to adopt due to being on disability income and I’ll never be able to afford paying some lady privately to adopt her kid



In my nation only Christian christians can adopt, from Christian orphanages.



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05 Apr 2019, 12:42 am

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Face_of_Boo, you are lacking in imagination.



You lack realism.



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05 Apr 2019, 12:57 am

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Not an uncle story but a cousin... XP He had married but she decided she didn't want kids so they divorced. He found someone else who was on board with having a family, and was younger than him. They had their first kid when he was over 40. He has three kids now and his youngest will be graduating high school when he is about 80. It's pretty extreme, but it is possible. He really wanted a family and felt he needed it to feel fulfilled so he got it to happen. There are certainly things that he would/will miss because of his age, but say he lives only to 80, that means his daughter got 18 years with him. That's 10 more than I got from my dad so it doesn't seem that awful to me.

It's a personal decision though. So if you feel you're too old to be having kids than that's a decision you made and your family ought to respect that.

Adoption would be an option though. Especially if you were to take on an older child(no 2am feedings!), they can be challenging but they are the ones that need it the most.



Oh no....not again, another "uncle story". :lol:

And it is not so encouraging, what was he smoking when he decided to have this 3rd child? I bet it was an accidental pregnancy.



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05 Apr 2019, 1:34 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Not an uncle story but a cousin... XP He had married but she decided she didn't want kids so they divorced. He found someone else who was on board with having a family, and was younger than him. They had their first kid when he was over 40. He has three kids now and his youngest will be graduating high school when he is about 80. It's pretty extreme, but it is possible. He really wanted a family and felt he needed it to feel fulfilled so he got it to happen. There are certainly things that he would/will miss because of his age, but say he lives only to 80, that means his daughter got 18 years with him. That's 10 more than I got from my dad so it doesn't seem that awful to me.

It's a personal decision though. So if you feel you're too old to be having kids than that's a decision you made and your family ought to respect that.

Adoption would be an option though. Especially if you were to take on an older child(no 2am feedings!), they can be challenging but they are the ones that need it the most.



Oh no....not again, another "uncle story". :lol:

And it is not so encouraging, what was he smoking when he decided to have this 3rd child? I bet it was an accidental pregnancy.


I didn't say it would be encouraging lol Its simply an example that it can be done. He's found it worthwhile even though he is much older. I don't know how intentional the third was but, I do know they had been wanting a girl so I don't think it was an 'accident'.


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05 Apr 2019, 2:13 am

As you don't want uncle stories, I'll refrain from stories of my husband's uncle, my mother's father, my close friend and my another close friend. Biologically, 37 is not really much for a man - but there are of course factors other than biology.

I suspect you may live under high social pressure about family matters. Social pressure sucks.


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05 Apr 2019, 4:00 am

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That seems to be the crux of the matter - do you actually want to get married and have children or do others make you feel inadequate for not having that type of life?

If that's actually what you want, you can still do it, although it would take concentrating all your resources towards it. I had my first child in my mid-40s, by choice.

If that's not what you want, you need to start telling people to piss off and mind their own business. Once you get the hang of it, it can be very satisfying and saves you a lot of headaches. The worst choice you can possibly make in life is to try to live the way other people want you to.


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05 Apr 2019, 4:24 am

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^ is he still footing the bill?


Sorry, are you referring to my post?

If so -- yes, my brother and I have paid many expenses over the years.

My nephew worked several different jobs around the world after high school. He supported himself during those times because he was never afraid of hard work and he didn't want handouts after turning 18. He survived some tough economic situations on his own. He's back now. He has his own place but we help him now because he's a little burnt out. He was also stabbed in a violent attack in October, so he is being treated for PTSD.

Sorry for going off topic, but adoptions can and do happen for single parents.


Adoptions can and do happen for single moms*.


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05 Apr 2019, 4:44 am

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That seems to be the crux of the matter - do you actually want to get married and have children or do others make you feel inadequate for not having that type of life?

If that's actually what you want, you can still do it, although it would take concentrating all your resources towards it. I had my first child in my mid-40s, by choice.

If that's not what you want, you need to start telling people to piss off and mind their own business. Once you get the hang of it, it can be very satisfying and saves you a lot of headaches. The worst choice you can possibly make in life is to try to live the way other people want you to.


How old is your child now? and you?



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05 Apr 2019, 4:45 am

More about social pressure:

I remember reading an interview with a truck driver who frequently drove to Turkey and back to Poland. He said, Turkish truck drivers socialize by showing each other photos of their children on their phones - and each of them has six children or so.

If Lebanon is even slightly like this, no wonder you feel an outcast for not being married at 37.


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Why is it too late and what's your financial situation? The latter's probably one of the most important questions. My Dad had me when he was 53 and on his second marriage. Now granted he was a university professor, my parents never found out about my own ASD, he was working all the time and didn't want my mom to have me b/c he didn't think he could raise a son. But he didn't do a terrible job and there were no real financial problems for me growing up. I'm 45 now myself and I probably can't be a parent, but that's b/c of my financial situation and my own difficulty in taking care of myself, not b/c of my age per se. Frankly 37 isn't that old, so you'd either have to elaborate further on why you think your age is such a critical factor in your case or you have to figure out how much you want a kid and what you'd be willing (or not) to do to raise one. Same thing for your partner.


Is my financial situation good? Well, yes and no, I do earn well, about $2750 + $1000 monthly but my employer is extremely delusional (and listens to no one) and has a long history of bankruptcy. So it is a good job, but no security.



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05 Apr 2019, 5:56 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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That seems to be the crux of the matter - do you actually want to get married and have children or do others make you feel inadequate for not having that type of life?

If that's actually what you want, you can still do it, although it would take concentrating all your resources towards it. I had my first child in my mid-40s, by choice.

If that's not what you want, you need to start telling people to piss off and mind their own business. Once you get the hang of it, it can be very satisfying and saves you a lot of headaches. The worst choice you can possibly make in life is to try to live the way other people want you to.


How old is your child now? and you?


I'm in my late-50s and have two teenagers. I'm healthy and strong and keep very fit - I often take them on hiking or skying trips and regularly play tennis with my son.

They had a good effect on me too, as they keep me updated with internet culture and new technology, my son got me into electronic music and I'm much more inclined to consider the younger generation's problems in context instead of brushing it off to them being spoiled and lazy. They definitely contributed to keeping my mind open and active.


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05 Apr 2019, 12:17 pm

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BenderRodriguez wrote:
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That seems to be the crux of the matter - do you actually want to get married and have children or do others make you feel inadequate for not having that type of life?

If that's actually what you want, you can still do it, although it would take concentrating all your resources towards it. I had my first child in my mid-40s, by choice.

If that's not what you want, you need to start telling people to piss off and mind their own business. Once you get the hang of it, it can be very satisfying and saves you a lot of headaches. The worst choice you can possibly make in life is to try to live the way other people want you to.


How old is your child now? and you?


I'm in my late-50s and have two teenagers. I'm healthy and strong and keep very fit - I often take them on hiking or skying trips and regularly play tennis with my son.

They had a good effect on me too, as they keep me updated with internet culture and new technology, my son got me into electronic music and I'm much more inclined to consider the younger generation's problems in context instead of brushing it off to them being spoiled and lazy. They definitely contributed to keeping my mind open and active.



Well, I am not much healhy nor strong though, I have chronic tinnitus, I have chronic fatigue. I am fit and I do gym but that’s it, not much energy. I was used to do hiking but not anymore since I lost touh with people who were into it.
So.... in my late 50s I don’t think I’ll be like you.



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05 Apr 2019, 1:17 pm

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There's a lot more you can do for/with your kids.

But do you actually want kids?

It takes a lot of hard work, patience and sacrifices to do a decent job and TBH a lot of the people I've met who just had them because "that's what you're supposed to do" are pretty miserable.


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