Forever being alone as a Aspie

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31 Mar 2020, 3:32 pm

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What do yall think about Adam Wonders(from Youtube)? He's also a aspie who talk about different things concerning Asperger's Sydrome,including datiing/relationships.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixgV5-OBQXg


I like this guy. Why can't I meet someone like this??

My ideal is to find a guy who doesn't like football.


Thanks for the link! Interesting video so I subscribed and will watch more. :)



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01 Apr 2020, 10:35 pm

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- but I'm a nonromantic asexual, I realize I'm probably happier not having any kind of romantic relationship anyway.


Consider yourself lucky then. If you have no interest in relationships, romance, or sex, life will be much easier for you then if you desire any of those things. I would have loved to be in your shoes.



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02 Apr 2020, 6:32 am

ProfessorJohn wrote:
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- but I'm a nonromantic asexual, I realize I'm probably happier not having any kind of romantic relationship anyway.


Consider yourself lucky then. If you have no interest in relationships, romance, or sex, life will be much easier for you then if you desire any of those things. I would have loved to be in your shoes.

Agreed. Being a hopeless romantic in a hookup culture is a Hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy :cry:



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02 Apr 2020, 10:06 am

SportsGamer35728 wrote:
ProfessorJohn wrote:
dragonsanddemons wrote:
- but I'm a nonromantic asexual, I realize I'm probably happier not having any kind of romantic relationship anyway.


Consider yourself lucky then. If you have no interest in relationships, romance, or sex, life will be much easier for you then if you desire any of those things. I would have loved to be in your shoes.

Agreed. Being a hopeless romantic in a hookup culture is a Hell I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy :cry:
I wouldn't wish it even if the culture wasn't hookup. I've known a bit of people who've been divorced & I've known a bit who were in very messy relationships. Thankfully I don't think any of em were in physically abusive relationships but things were very f#cked up & they ended up being majorly hurt. My best friend got in serious financial trouble from his ex-wife & from other women he was involved with or wanted to be. He ended up losing his house, transferred jobs a couple times, & had to file bankruptcy in the span of a couple years before he got involved with his current wife. She seems nice & they've been married like 9 years now.


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02 Apr 2020, 11:03 am

hurtloam wrote:
My ideal is to find a guy who doesn't like football.


Does laughing insanely when my national team get knocked out of the world cup count? :twisted:



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02 Apr 2020, 1:24 pm

hurtloam wrote:
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Relationships are difficult so long as you expect them to be all about you.

The moment you let go of that, you'll be fine.



Well, that's not true.

I do hate these throw away lines.

I am a very caring person and I look out for others, but doesn't matter what I do for guys. They don't magically fall for me.

I'll give an example of how I have a nice little relationship with someone. Take my brother-in-law's best friend for example. I do look out for him. Make sure he's ok. Invite him places. I don't expect anything back from him. He's just part of our lives and I make him a part of things because he's one of us. And my friend's brother too. He's a great guy. We talk about music mostly. I've invited him along to things we do. We're on good terms. We have not fallen for each other either.

I've known quite a lot of men actually, I've just treated them as humans and not expected anything. No one fell for me. We had no sparks.

Mysteriously he hasn't fallen for the girl that looks out for him :D

It's not a magic panacea to just be caring and someone will fall for you.

Ah, well, at least this made me write about some of the nice people I know.

How long before this thread gets locked? I give it an hour.





He’s probably not physically attracted to you, that’s why. Either that or he’s got a girlfriend.
If he found you attractive, he likely would have made a move by now.

For the vast majority of men, they want someone who they find physically attractive. If the physical attraction isn’t there, it doesn’t matter how nice you are, how much you two have in common, he won’t even consider you. Also we generally want someone in our age range. If you’re a 25 year old man, you’re probably not looking at women in their fourties, unless they’re super hot.


A good example would be an 80 year old woman. I ain’t ever going to be attracted to an 80 year old woman no matter how much she’s there for me.



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02 Apr 2020, 2:37 pm

Or he doesn't care about relationships, or is really scared of rejection. There were plenty of women I was attracted to, but was terrified to ask them out or make a move because I thought they might say no.



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02 Apr 2020, 4:26 pm

Muse933277 wrote:
hurtloam wrote:
Fnord wrote:
Relationships are difficult so long as you expect them to be all about you.

The moment you let go of that, you'll be fine.



Well, that's not true.

I do hate these throw away lines.

I am a very caring person and I look out for others, but doesn't matter what I do for guys. They don't magically fall for me.

I'll give an example of how I have a nice little relationship with someone. Take my brother-in-law's best friend for example. I do look out for him. Make sure he's ok. Invite him places. I don't expect anything back from him. He's just part of our lives and I make him a part of things because he's one of us. And my friend's brother too. He's a great guy. We talk about music mostly. I've invited him along to things we do. We're on good terms. We have not fallen for each other either.

I've known quite a lot of men actually, I've just treated them as humans and not expected anything. No one fell for me. We had no sparks.

Mysteriously he hasn't fallen for the girl that looks out for him :D

It's not a magic panacea to just be caring and someone will fall for you.

Ah, well, at least this made me write about some of the nice people I know.

How long before this thread gets locked? I give it an hour.


He’s probably not physically attracted to you, that’s why. Either that or he’s got a girlfriend.
If he found you attractive, he likely would have made a move by now.

For the vast majority of men, they want someone who they find physically attractive. If the physical attraction isn’t there, it doesn’t matter how nice you are, how much you two have in common, he won’t even consider you. Also we generally want someone in our age range. If you’re a 25 year old man, you’re probably not looking at women in their fourties, unless they’re super hot.


A good example would be an 80 year old woman. I ain’t ever going to be attracted to an 80 year old woman no matter how much she’s there for me.


Thank you. That's what I was saying. There's more to it than making all your actions about other people.

Though, I'm not sure why you immediately jumped to writing about a 25 year old and a woman in her 40s. Where'd that come from. That's nothing to do with my example.



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02 Apr 2020, 4:30 pm

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Or he doesn't care about relationships, or is really scared of rejection. There were plenty of women I was attracted to, but was terrified to ask them out or make a move because I thought they might say no.


Also true. Doesn't matter how not focussed on yourself you are if the other person is too shy to believe you could really be interested.



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05 Apr 2020, 1:06 pm

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I am an Aspie female who has never been on a date in her life. It annoys me when people act like simply by being female, I can have my pick of guys falling all over me. True, males are the ones typically expected to initiate things, but men are only going to approach a woman if she seems at all desireable, which apparently I don't since no one who's seen me in person has so much as looked at me twice. My looks apparently aren't the problem, either, because when I share a picture of myself online, I get told I'm pretty. Maybe part of my problem is my youthful appearance, at age 27 I still get mistaken for a high school student, so maybe men think I'm too young. In any case, I do believe I will be alone forever - but I'm a nonromantic asexual, I realize I'm probably happier not having any kind of romantic relationship anyway.


I don't think you should take it personally. The male and female dating issues are just different sides of the same coin.



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06 Apr 2020, 3:36 am

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Seem like Aspies,especially Aspie men tend to stay alone forever

Only the lucky ones. :( Cherrish being single while you still can.


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06 Apr 2020, 10:57 am

RetroGamer87 wrote:
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Seem like Aspies,especially Aspie men tend to stay alone forever

Only the lucky ones. :( Cherrish being single while you still can.



Sounds like you don't enjoy having a girlfriend. My question is why don't just you stay single and be alone if that's what you enjoy so much?No one is forcing you to have a girlfriend dude. You may feel like single men are lucky,however that's not always the case. Some of us suffer from loneliness. Some of us are involuntary single due to circumstances,but not lonely. Some of us just dislike women overall,and want nothing to do with women. In ether case however,consider yourself lucky. For many of us as Aspie men,we go through our entire lifetimes without a single woman liking us.

For myself specifically,I haven't really even talked with females outside of family within the last couple of years,let alone tried date.Not that women would even want to talk with me anyway. I don't believe I have ever met a single woman who even liked me as a friend,let alone romantically. Women see me as boring and weird. They don't see me as interesting. They seem me as socially awkward which is something I can't control due to my Aspergers.



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08 Apr 2020, 1:41 am

I’d have to agree this seems like a general problem rather than an aspie male one (the disparity in diagnosis aside). It really isn’t true that all we have to do is breathe and we’ll have guys at our doors (sometimes I wish it were, man life would be easier...but possibly more overwhelming).

For me, I’ve never had a real boyfriend in my 25 years of drifting through life. I’d see some girls who just WENT for it, even when the guy didn’t put the moves on first and it was like watching a movie in mandarin. I couldn’t understand. I didn’t know where to begin copying them.

And on some occasions where I was approached, I’d get so quickly overwhelmed and freaked out. My brain would hit panic mode or worse—leave me tf alone mode. Sometimes I just didn’t know what to say or how to carry a convo and the guy would think I was uninterested and stop talking to me. Can’t speak for every aspie girl but for me, it seems like it’s not a gendered problem.



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08 Apr 2020, 3:43 am

Quite a few aspie men can’t live up to society standards for dateable men.
I’m 32 and never had a gf and can’t even get dates anymore.


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08 Apr 2020, 9:04 am

DaniDiNardo wrote:
Sometimes I just didn’t know what to say or how to carry a convo and the guy would think I was uninterested and stop talking to me.

Same. Social anxiety or lack of conversation skills is usually interpreted as rejection.



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08 Apr 2020, 9:34 am

NorthWind wrote:
DaniDiNardo wrote:
Sometimes I just didn’t know what to say or how to carry a convo and the guy would think I was uninterested and stop talking to me.
Same.  Social anxiety or lack of conversation skills is usually interpreted as rejection.
There used to be a program on TV called "The Red Green Show" (one of the few great Canadian exports).  The lead character used to close one segment with the words, "If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy". It makes sense to me.

I mean, the "strong, silent type" who gets things done may be an archetype for every theatrical release featuring a male hero, but there is a lot if good to be said for people who show their interest by being able to perform tasks and not complaining, when the world seems full of people who either can not or will not do what needs to be done without a lot of moaning and whining.

Just don't expect a woman to hop in bed with you as a reward for changing the oil in her car.


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