17 Aug 2020, 12:51 am
Pepe wrote:
I find this bizarre also.
To think that some one is willing to suicide because they can't find a partner is beyond my comprehension.
To think that some one is willing to suicide because they can't find a partner is beyond my comprehension.
dragonsanddemons wrote:
Yeah, I can see how losing a significant other for one reason or another might make one suicidal if the person was the only reason they were staying alive, but because one thinks they’re going to be single forever? There is plenty of life that does not require a significant other to enjoy/benefit from.
I think it is mostly young men who think like that because they are massively affected by hormones.
Men's testosterone levels are astronomically high from 16 to their early twenties.
Women, on the other hand, tend to peak sexually around their late 30s, but there is some argument about this.
Hormones befuddle the mind. They activate the emotional/primitive parts of the brain, bypassing the cognitive sections, to a large extent. Everyone has heard the expression of the guy thinking with his penis. lol
A more rational consideration of being single wouldn't involve thoughts of suicide, all other things being equal.
I am wondering if these suicidal thoughts, in young men, could be alleviated by something which could reduce their testosterone levels, until they do have a sexual partner.
I am being very serious here.
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6. Take something to lower your sexual urges
If your sexual urges are occupying your every waking thought and becoming problematic, there are a few things you can take to decrease your sex drive:
Anaphrodisiacs: Just as aphrodisiacs such as oysters or chocolate are said to enhance the libido, anaphrodisiacs are said to dull it. There are a number of food ingredients, herbs and supplements that fall into this category including soy, liquorice, chasteberry, hops and wild lettuce.
Antidepressants: much has been much written about antidepressants, particularly SSRIs, dulling the libido. Antipsychotics can also have this side affect. While they are not specifically designed to lower the sex drive, some doctors do prescribe them for this reason.
Reversible chemical castration: hormone drug therapy can often be seen as a last resort. While women can have problematic sex drives, at present these drugs are only being prescribed to men. Cyproterone and Triptorelin both lower the production of testosterone. This treatment is basically a reversible chemical castration.
Change your medication: if your medication is causing you to feel more aroused than usual, it may be possible to change your medication or lower the dosage - enough to take the edge of the urges but still to help what whatever it is you are taking it for. Always seek medical advice before changing your medication. https://www.netdoctor.co.uk/healthy-liv ... sex-drive/
If your sexual urges are occupying your every waking thought and becoming problematic, there are a few things you can take to decrease your sex drive:
Anaphrodisiacs: Just as aphrodisiacs such as oysters or chocolate are said to enhance the libido, anaphrodisiacs are said to dull it. There are a number of food ingredients, herbs and supplements that fall into this category including soy, liquorice, chasteberry, hops and wild lettuce.
Antidepressants: much has been much written about antidepressants, particularly SSRIs, dulling the libido. Antipsychotics can also have this side affect. While they are not specifically designed to lower the sex drive, some doctors do prescribe them for this reason.
Reversible chemical castration: hormone drug therapy can often be seen as a last resort. While women can have problematic sex drives, at present these drugs are only being prescribed to men. Cyproterone and Triptorelin both lower the production of testosterone. This treatment is basically a reversible chemical castration.
Change your medication: if your medication is causing you to feel more aroused than usual, it may be possible to change your medication or lower the dosage - enough to take the edge of the urges but still to help what whatever it is you are taking it for. Always seek medical advice before changing your medication. https://www.netdoctor.co.uk/healthy-liv ... sex-drive/
Pepe wrote:
Platonic love is great.
Romantic love is a wild irrational emotional rollercoaster ride driven by the evolutionary process with the primary purpose of reproduction.
Simples.
Romantic love is a wild irrational emotional rollercoaster ride driven by the evolutionary process with the primary purpose of reproduction.
Simples.
dragonsanddemons wrote:
Yeah, there is a lot of stuff involved with romantic relationships that one doesn’t have to deal with in a platonic relationship. I should probably try to focus on that more than I do.
There are platonic friendships,
And there is also "Platonic *Love*" which complicates the relationship, also.
Pepe wrote:
This is very autistic.
It isn't wrong, it is just different.
It isn't wrong, it is just different.
dragonsanddemons wrote:
I agree, there’s nothing wrong with it, it just means I am not suited to “traditional” married life.
Neither am I.
Pepe wrote:
To me, the ideal relationship would involve both parties living in their own house.
dragonsanddemons wrote:
I agree. Maybe a duplex sort of thing, where it would be easy to have some time together but each person would have their own space.
Sounds perfect.
Pepe wrote:
To a large extent, you can blame our lack of theory of mind, for this.
Not being able to anticipate how someone is going to react, and worry about saying the wrong thing *all* the time, is very draining. At times, it makes it preferable to simply be alone, I agree.
Not being able to anticipate how someone is going to react, and worry about saying the wrong thing *all* the time, is very draining. At times, it makes it preferable to simply be alone, I agree.
dragonsanddemons wrote:
That makes sense. Yeah, that’s the problem, really, is that I’d feel like I needed to be alert at all times, I need to be completely alone in order to relax.
Not having intuitive Theory of Mind is a rather nasty trick played on us by "nature".
Pepe wrote:
All I can say is "To each their own".
And I have stopped "Chasing other people's rainbows" many years ago.
And I have stopped "Chasing other people's rainbows" many years ago.
dragonsanddemons wrote:
Yeah, I need to remember that I am me, not “most people,” and it’s okay to have a completely different lifestyle and such.
I think most ND people would agree with us.
