Folks, don't become like this guy


What works on TV doesn't usually work in real life, and television usually perpetuates unhealthy relationship concepts from generations that now have extreme divorce rates.
Problem is, creepy and stalkish behavior is always romanticized.
People gotta remember that TV is not real life. Whatever works on film would not work in real life.
I remember in the film bed of Roses when Christian Slater told Mary Stuart Masterson how he saw her crying in her apartment window and he gave her flowers. In real life this would have creeped any woman out. Any woman would be creeped out if they were sent roses by a random stranger. In real life this is not how you pick up women if you are into them. The fact he didn't even know her either and didn't know who she was. He only saw her crying and decided he liked her so he sent her Roses and had his address on it to lure her to his flower shop so he could meet her.
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You didn't offend me.
I am emotionally "bullet-proof".
Stop being so autistic.


The creeps were the ones abusing the guy, on the social media, for making a romantic gesture.
Typical neurotypicals.
Always wanting to tear someone down.
They are social hierarchical creatures, you know.
Well, many of them.

Was he in her vicinity, or just in a public place?
While we are on the subject, can I have your phone number?



So I can understand why women would find this to be creepy what this fella did. This man was practically begging to have her come back and wouldn't accept "no."
He gave it a shot, and he wasn't stalking her.
He was open about it in a public place.
It was a *romantic* gesture, FFS.

I gather you have never made one?
I have, and it turned out very well.
It *was* a romantic gesture.
It was a romantic gesture but the woman wasn't interested, that is all.
Yep, everyone is a mind reader.
The trouble is, they really aren't.
I will bet your left testicle that he was genuine.
A more civil way to react to the situation would have been to explain how it wasn't appropriate, and the woman has shown she wasn't interested.
They call "luv" "a touch of madness" for a reason.
Rationality usually walks out the door, when luv enters.
It doesn't mean he was a stalker.
Well, if he didn't comply with their request for him to stop, they could have called the cops, rather than psychically assault him.
But then I am a rational person.
Many aren't.

I have nothing but contempt for "social media" and "keyboard warriors," safely in their mummy's and daddy's homes.


Have I ever said how much I despise the human psyche?


It was a romantic gesture but the woman wasn't interested, that is all.
Except his intention was to get her back and he wasn't going to stop playing until she comes back to him. This is not romance. This is just a guy who thought he can get a woman back if he keeps playing and not stop until she comes back. This is why he got outlash from social media.
Listen, if a woman breaks up with you, move on. Don't try to win her back and "try harder" by continuing to give her flowers and gifts and even play songs for them. This is a way to get a restraining order put on you. This treads on harassment and stalking.
About mind reading, yeah you can be specific all you want to a male as a female and men still "won't get it." Mine certainly wouldn't get it when I told him I didn't want to talk to him anymore, not today and not tomorrow, never. But somehow this was not clear enough for him.

Stalkers do not care.

I certainly hope you are not the guy who would go out and stalk a woman after she leaves you and not stop until she gives in and comes back to you and you call that romance.
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It was a romantic gesture but the woman wasn't interested, that is all.
Except his intention was to get her back and he wasn't going to stop playing until she comes back to him. This is not romance. This is just a guy who thought he can get a woman back if he keeps playing and not stop until she comes back. This is why he got outlash from social media.
Ummm.
She didn't come back.
He stopped playing.
It was a romantic gesture that went wrong.
Trust me, I'm a stalker romantic fool.

He gave it a shot.
It didn't work.
He stopped.
Gross generalisation.
Most men do "get it".

Your experience seems to have upset you.
Understandable.
But you can't blame *all* men as a result.
Most men take "no" for an answer.
You were unfortunate.
So, how was it resolved?
Did you run over him with a Mack Truck?


I certainly hope you are not the guy who would go out and stalk a woman after she leaves you and not stop until she gives in and comes back to you and you call that romance.
What do you think?

He only stopped because he was being called a stalker and a creep and he was insulted that they were implying his ex would be too stupid to come back to him if he were truly an abuser. He didn't realize how this would look so he stopped, not because he got punched. It clearly said that in some of the articles. Google the story and you will find different websites with the same story and each of them are a little different and some will have a little more detail.
You were unfortunate.
Yeah, too many of them online I ran into, every time they would fine out I had a webcam, they would all of a sudden change their tune and turn into a HNG. I even tossed out a 3 year friendship because of it, he was one of those men and wouldn't take no for an answer when he was trying to get me to sexually pose for him and do sexual things.
Plus always being told by men online "you will never get a partner if you don't like sex" and this told me all men ever cared about was sex and not women. Talk about misogyny.

Even my first ex wouldn't take no for an answer and I have dealt with men here defending my ex.

This is very common for women to run into this and be treated as objects like men own our bodies or being told we are sending them wrong signals or giving them wrong messages. How about teaching these dudes the word no and that talking to you does not mean you can assault them. That is why we have all this feminism going on by women and why you keep hearing about toxic masculinity or why women are creating their own spaces and allow no men in them.
Did you run over him with a Mack Truck?

I finally created a new AIM name and started giving it to my online friends so I can log onto there and ditch the stalker. I never shared it online. Then AOL added a feature for their AIM service that you can be logged in all your screen names at once and they added the ability to appear offline when you are online so I started doing that to ditch him and I had all his usernames unblocked and added to my main screen name so I could see when he was online so I would go invisible and keep talking to my online friends. It was quite amusing seeing him log out of each user name and logging back in under each username as if he was searching for me. Then he gave up after awhile.
I did try everything else by being nasty to him to scare him off, leave shameful messages on my AIM bio to shame him and sending people after him to try and get him to leave me alone but none of it worked and I even tried to ignore him and he would just keep messaging me interrupting my typing to my online friends. So I tried this last method that AOL introduced on their AIM and I used that to get rid of him and it finally worked.

You do realise you are venturing into being insulting to me, right?
And I did nothing to deserve that.

You defend a inappropriate behavior that is consistent of a creeper and a stalker and you are offended I am hoping you are not that guy? You do realize it takes one to know one and people tend to defends their own groups so trying to justify bad behavior just reflects badly on you as a person so don't be surprised if someone questions it in you.
It's like bullies defending bullies or bad drivers defending bad driving or child abusers defending child abuse and blaming it on the victim.
Seriously, I really hope you are misunderstanding the story and not actually defending the behavior and thinking this is all okay for anyone to do. It's looking bad. I wasn't offended when you asked me if I am racist and was hoping the answer is no so how is this any different?
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Apparently this was all staged according to someone in the comments.
I had to look it up and yep, they are right.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... olate.html
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sing a different tune.
Yes, crazy women also exist.

My online friend had to put a restraining order on a gal in South Dakota so what a shock when someone showed up at her apartment door step and was handed a restraining order that came all the way from Ohio. She was also harassing him online and he has friends who work for the gov and stuff so they helped him with that.
Plus my brother had a crazy ex who would not accept their relationship was over so she did some crazy stuff and it came back and bit her at school because she bragged about it and rumors started and teachers and students believed the rumors.
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First things first: I apologise if I offended you.
It was not my intention to do so.
In other words, he was being naive.
No, I didn't do massive research into this article, but to me, it seems to be a romantic gesture that went wrong.
You were unfortunate.
Yes, this is common behaviour, I have found out recently.
A 3 year old friendship destroyed because of sexual instinct has gone rogue.
I am sorry you have had to experience that.

My best friend has had this same experience.
Until recently, I was oblivious to the fact it happened so often.
I was also unaware of how devastating it could be.
Is it more an online thing?

OK, I now understand where you are coming from and I am sorry you had to go through that.
What you are saying resonates with me because of what my friend has experienced.
Unfortunately, it does seem to be something men tend to do/think.
I believe many men tend to think it is a mutual agreement/understanding and are surprised when it isn't reciprocated.
The problem is, after men get/understand the message, some don't respect it.
Yes.
Did you run over him with a Mack Truck?

I did try everything else by being nasty to him to scare him off, leave shameful messages on my AIM bio to shame him and sending people after him to try and get him to leave me alone but none of it worked and I even tried to ignore him and he would just keep messaging me interrupting my typing to my online friends. So I tried this last method that AOL introduced on their AIM and I used that to get rid of him and it finally worked.
Isn't this a rather extreme example of online stalking?
Surely there aren't that many examples of this degree of harassment?

You do realise you are venturing into being insulting to me, right?
And I did nothing to deserve that.

I thought better of that comment and deleted it.
Unfortunately, you were too quick for me and you quoted it in your reply.

From my POV, I wasn't defending bad behaviour.
It's like bullies defending bullies or bad drivers defending bad driving or child abusers defending child abuse and blaming it on the victim.
The difference here is that I genuinely believe piano-man made a grand naive romantic gesture.
In my mind, I was sympathising with a gentle misguided individual that was heartbroken.
Hopefully you now understand where *I* am coming from and that I am not defending bad behaviour.
From memory, all I did was turn around what you said to me, to make a point.

Intellectual Ju Jitsu, so to speak.

Well, the difference here is that you were comparing me to a stalker, when I didn't agree what piano-man was doing was stalking.
As I said, I think the guy was simply trying to make a grand romantic gesture.
I believe cberg said the same before me, didn't he?
I think you know me well enough to know I had no intention of offending you.
I am very respectful of women.
I am old school after all.

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Apparently this was all staged according to someone in the comments.
I had to look it up and yep, they are right.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... olate.html
No, one from Cadbury company commented and confirmed it was not a commercial - the proposal was probably sponsored by them but it is not how they do commercials.
If it was really a commercial then how comes no one posted where it was aired? Where is that super hidden full commercial?
And even if it was a commercial, if genders were reversed there would be an uproar. This one caused no uproar.
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Pepe, you are an okay person and I enjoy your friendlies and all your smiles. Even if I don't always agree with you. And thank you for your understanding and your sympathy.
Yes I do agree that man was naïve. But his actions were still wrong.
Until recently, I was oblivious to the fact it happened so often.
I was also unaware of how devastating it could be.
Is it more an online thing?
Forgot to answer this,
Yes and no, Yes because this was where I had experienced it the most but I have met a few creepy men in real life and got my self sexually assaulted. Now I know why woman don't allow men to feel their pregnant bellies.
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Daughter: NT, no diagnoses. Possibly OCD. Is very private about herself.
Apparently this was all staged according to someone in the comments.
I had to look it up and yep, they are right.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... olate.html
No, one from Cadbury company commented and confirmed it was not a commercial - the proposal was probably sponsored by them but it is not how they do commercials.
If it was really a commercial then how comes no one posted where it was aired? Where is that super hidden full commercial?
And even if it was a commercial, if genders were reversed there would be an uproar. This one caused no uproar.
It was filmed at a Dubai mall in India and it was supposed to be an advertisement for chocolate not being so sweet. It was a pun they were trying to do, man proposes to her in front of everyone which is cheesy and it wasn't so sweet.
No I did not get the assault part.
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No, it's not.
Unless it's a black person and the local police are racist and violent, call the police when someone breaks the law.
Don't punch people in the face. Makes you as bad (or in this case worse) than them.
Chances are round here they'd just tell the council to come round anyway, not proper cops. They'd come and say 'can you keep the noise down please'.
Normally I'm against stalkerish behaviour as learnt from the media. The media does encourage far too much in terms of 'not taking no for an answer' and 'stalking is ok'. But I think this is sweet. 4AM isn't the right time for it though.
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