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FairyFox
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13 Feb 2022, 2:49 pm

just to explain to those who think that he can pretend to be a Muslim just to get married.. just to pretend for a little while. and what if he manages to get married to some ehm.. religiously zealous lady. then he has to pretend and pretend.. and Darwin forbid there are children. By outing himself as non believer, his wife is no more his wife, he has no right to children custody as he would have in case he remained religious.
well my dear, I wish you to meet someone. try online dating. I met my stronger half this way.

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13 Feb 2022, 3:05 pm

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

I was a Muslim, but I was mostly comfortable with Christians. I don't know how much they have gotten in the way of meeting non-religious ladies who wanted to have sex.

You left this out of your previous posts. Aren't your family able to organise a marriage for you?

No they can't. I can't go to Libya because I'm not a Libyan citizen and do not have any legal status there.

More importantly, Muslim women are forbidden from marrying non-Muslim men.

Just pretend, pray 5 times a day, it's not a big deal. You can then have a wife.

Islam is a much bigger commitment than just 5 prayers a day. There are times of the year when you can't eat or even drink water all day. You're expected to live your whole life according to a very specific set of rules that govern every moment of your life. They tell what you can and can't eat. Who you can and can't be friends with. You can't take out any loan that you'll have to pay interest on; that means no student loans, mortgages, car loans. Nothing. How can someone ever get ahead in life like that? You're not even allowed to listen to music. Even dictates every detail of how to go to the bathroom: you have to walk into the bathroom a certain way, recite a specific prayer, and you're not allowed to pee standing.

Then there's all the homophobia and antisemitism.

As for getting married, you have to commit to marrying someone before you're even allowed to talk to her.

And I refuse to spend the rest of my life living a lie regardless.

Totally not worth it.

And all this music produced in the Arab world is for who? O.o
That’s a very extreme version of Islam.

But yeah, It sucks either way.

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13 Feb 2022, 7:06 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

I was a Muslim, but I was mostly comfortable with Christians. I don't know how much they have gotten in the way of meeting non-religious ladies who wanted to have sex.

You left this out of your previous posts. Aren't your family able to organise a marriage for you?

No they can't. I can't go to Libya because I'm not a Libyan citizen and do not have any legal status there.

More importantly, Muslim women are forbidden from marrying non-Muslim men.

Just pretend, pray 5 times a day, it's not a big deal. You can then have a wife.

And all this music produced in the Arab world is for who? O.o
That’s a very extreme version of Islam.

But yeah, It sucks either way.

Yeah. A lot of the Arab world ignores a lot about Islam. But there is still so much to it that's just not worth the trouble. I could handle not eating all day, but no water is extremely hazardous.

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14 Feb 2022, 4:16 am

dorkseid wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

I was a Muslim, but I was mostly comfortable with Christians. I don't know how much they have gotten in the way of meeting non-religious ladies who wanted to have sex.

You left this out of your previous posts. Aren't your family able to organise a marriage for you?

No they can't. I can't go to Libya because I'm not a Libyan citizen and do not have any legal status there.

More importantly, Muslim women are forbidden from marrying non-Muslim men.

Just pretend, pray 5 times a day, it's not a big deal. You can then have a wife.

And all this music produced in the Arab world is for who? O.o
That’s a very extreme version of Islam.

But yeah, It sucks either way.

Yeah. A lot of the Arab world ignores a lot about Islam. But there is still so much to it that's just not worth the trouble. I could handle not eating all day, but no water is extremely hazardous.

Muslims are in constant inner conflicts with their faith; Islam is a strong part of their identity/culture yet they keep questioning when things don't go their way.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/11/ ... r-old-girl

That video is translated in french only sadly:

https://www.facebook.com/10004507943107 ... 3579071952

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14 Feb 2022, 7:02 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

cyberdad wrote:

dorkseid wrote:

I was a Muslim, but I was mostly comfortable with Christians. I don't know how much they have gotten in the way of meeting non-religious ladies who wanted to have sex.

You left this out of your previous posts. Aren't your family able to organise a marriage for you?

No they can't. I can't go to Libya because I'm not a Libyan citizen and do not have any legal status there.

More importantly, Muslim women are forbidden from marrying non-Muslim men.

Just pretend, pray 5 times a day, it's not a big deal. You can then have a wife.

And all this music produced in the Arab world is for who? O.o
That’s a very extreme version of Islam.

But yeah, It sucks either way.

Yeah. A lot of the Arab world ignores a lot about Islam. But there is still so much to it that's just not worth the trouble. I could handle not eating all day, but no water is extremely hazardous.

Let's not dance around the bush on this matter: the delimma faced by Muslim societies is, because Mohammed married a child, they cannot outlaw child marriage or acknowledge in any way that it is wrong or harmful without condemning their own prophet. This is a clear example of just how damaging and dangerous religion is.

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14 Feb 2022, 7:14 am

You can’t eat or drink during Ramadan during the day….but you can indulge completely after sundown.

Ive known a few Muslims. Some are devout…but some don’t even pray five times a day, and are otherwise quite secular.

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14 Feb 2022, 7:34 am

To me, “getting laid” means nothing. I used to pine "not to be a virgin"----but when I actually "lost my virginity," it was quite the anticlimax. It did not make me a "man" overnight.

There are lots of good, smart, useful, and attractive people who have trouble getting laid.

I’m good and smart (I think). But am not useful and attractive—yet Ive gotten laid thousands of times. It doesn’t make me “more of a man” because Ive had relative success sexually.

Anybody who teaches severely-disabled children is useful.

I sense, Dorkseid, that you make extreme statements, and make negative analogies out of left field. Maybe that cuts into your potential success?

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14 Feb 2022, 8:12 am

Muslims live in denial, that’s for sure.

Most governments of these countries did outlaw child marriage but it still happens in remote areas.
Sunna schools did raise the minimum marriage age to 15/17 for both sexes.
Hanafi and Jafari are the worst.

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14 Feb 2022, 11:06 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

You can’t eat or drink during Ramadan during the day….but you can indulge completely after sundown.

As I said already: obtaining from food for several hours isn't a big deal as far as I know. But not drinking water for that long is extremely hazardous.

And the over-indulgence that takes place after sunset isn't exactly healthy either.

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14 Feb 2022, 11:16 am

kraftiekortie wrote:

I sense, Dorkseid, that you make extreme statements, and make negative analogies out of left field. Maybe that cuts into your potential success?

Perhaps. But I've already explained why its too late for all that at this point.

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14 Feb 2022, 11:24 am

I certainly do believe that not drinking water during the day is hazardous to your health.

I would never indulge in such a fast.

I wonder if there are exemptions granted for those who are not in optimal health.

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14 Feb 2022, 11:30 am

just imagine having diabetes and try fasting ala Ramadan...
very old, pregnant and breastfeeding women, children up to 12 I think..

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14 Feb 2022, 11:52 am

By the time I was 40 I had given up on finding a significant other.

When I was 42 I met a nice gal at a party and we had a wonderful conversation. There were some geographical and schedule issues so after the party I figured I would likely never see her again. She tells me she was disappointed I didn't ask for her phone number—which is something this Aspie would've been far too timid to do.

A few months later she needed a favor and realized it was something I could probably do for her, and she had enough information to find me. She called me only planning to request that favor, but during the call I noticed something else I could do to help her...but that required us to meet...which I was quite willing to do but I additionally worked dinner out into it.

We'll be celebrating our 22^nd anniversary soon!

My suggestion to you: Don't give up. Just be nice to the gals, not predatory, and be someone they can rely on when they need help with something.

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14 Feb 2022, 1:31 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

I wonder if there are exemptions granted for those who are not in optimal health.

People are allowed to skip the fast for health reasons. If its a temporary illness they are expected to recover from they are required to make up the days they missed after Ramadan. If its a chronic condition (like diabetes), they make it up by feeding a poor person for every day of Ramadan provided their financial situation allows for that.

There are also exemptions for travelers. They make up the days they missed after Ramadan.

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14 Feb 2022, 1:42 pm

To me, there are cool aspects of Islam, as well as not-so-cool aspects.

Their view of "alms" is most admirable.

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14 Feb 2022, 3:13 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:

To me, there are cool aspects of Islam, as well as not-so-cool aspects.

Their view of "alms" is most admirable.

The problem isn't that it lacks anything of value; its that all the worst parts and made sacred and above reproach.

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