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Have you read Men are from Mars, women are from venus, and did it help you?
Yes - It helps a little 5%  5%  [ 1 ]
Yes - but it didn't help. 11%  11%  [ 2 ]
Just reading it now 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
No. 84%  84%  [ 16 ]
Total votes : 19

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01 Aug 2007, 8:07 pm

Yeah, that sounds more masculine to me.
Though, I don't much mind advice, as
I like to shoot it down - but that's just
because I look at everything negatively.



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01 Aug 2007, 11:01 pm

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I never bothered to read it, but now I'm thinking about it. Maybe it'll help me understand my NT husband's communication style a bit more. Guess I'm from whatever planet spawns people who cut the crap, discuss the issue directly, solve the problem, and move on. Pretty sure that's neither Mars nor Venus, from what I've heard.


It's said to be a small planet, somewhere in the vicinity of Betelgeuse.



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02 Aug 2007, 4:48 am

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What really annoys me is when a guy wants to give me advice regarding something that I know a lot about and he doesn't. As if I hadn't already thought of all those possible solutions myself. :roll: Depending on the guy's tone, it can feel very insulting.


Well, when you know that you have a more in-depth grasp on an issue than most people its going to be very difficult to find anyone who can add to that perspective. The best someone can do in that case is just be a sounding board - if they'll sit and listen I really don't know what more you can ask.



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02 Aug 2007, 8:35 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
gwenevyn wrote:
What really annoys me is when a guy wants to give me advice regarding something that I know a lot about and he doesn't. As if I hadn't already thought of all those possible solutions myself. :roll: Depending on the guy's tone, it can feel very insulting.


Well, when you know that you have a more in-depth grasp on an issue than most people its going to be very difficult to find anyone who can add to that perspective. The best someone can do in that case is just be a sounding board - if they'll sit and listen I really don't know what more you can ask.
That's just the trouble when we talk about things - how many other people are willing to just listen and not jump in with unwanted advice. I would only want advice that was something I hadn't already thought of and that I felt I could take up.


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02 Aug 2007, 11:42 am

calandale wrote:
unnamed wrote:
Guess I'm from whatever planet spawns people who cut the crap...


Uranus.

ROFL! :lol: Actually according to one of those quizzes, I'm from Jupiter.



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02 Aug 2007, 12:35 pm

gwenevyn wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Especially with music, my one NT friend put it this way - guys tend to like more what sounds good or what they can feel, with women "Is it popular? Is it on the radio? Ok, I can get down".


Are you serious?

No wonder I don't understand women.


Women seem to be more of the herd type than men. I mean, "loner guys" are so common they've become a cliché. (And I'm one.) It's more common for women to flock together, with "the girls", than for a guy to say, "Man, I wish I could go out on the town with the guys!" :roll: No thanks.


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02 Aug 2007, 2:57 pm

unnamed wrote:
calandale wrote:
unnamed wrote:
Guess I'm from whatever planet spawns people who cut the crap...


Uranus.

ROFL! :lol: Actually according to one of those quizzes, I'm from Jupiter.


I got pluto.



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03 Aug 2007, 2:02 am

Pugly wrote:
gwenevyn wrote:
I find I have a lot of male traits, but my major feminine trait is that I like to talk about problems that I don't want or need help with. If I want advice, I will ask for it directly. Otherwise, I'm just sharing what's on my mind.


Is that a feminine trait? I find myself just talking about a problem... and not really expecting a solution... but explaining a problem helps solidify my own ideas.


Good point. No, I don't think it's a feminine trait. It's just a stereotype.

Pandora wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Well, when you know that you have a more in-depth grasp on an issue than most people its going to be very difficult to find anyone who can add to that perspective. The best someone can do in that case is just be a sounding board - if they'll sit and listen I really don't know what more you can ask.
That's just the trouble when we talk about things - how many other people are willing to just listen and not jump in with unwanted advice. I would only want advice that was something I hadn't already thought of and that I felt I could take up.


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Though I may not consider potential solutions, I don't think worse of a person that offers help.


I should correct what I said. I don't think that the advice is what bothers me, per se. It really depends on the personality and air of the advice-giver. For example, "Hey, did you think of doing xyz?" would be acceptable, even if xyz wasn't a good idea. Somebody who says something like that is just trying to be helpful. What I don't like is when somebody offers advice as a way of stroking his own ego, not in an honest attempt to communicate with me or know anything about me. People offering advice in an earnest attempt to help actually listen to the details of what you've said, take your background and experience into consideration, and probe you a bit to see how much you know about a given subject. He will meet you as an equal, not lecture you as an inferior.

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But that's just generally not liking people who exude expertise in areas they don't understand.


Yeah. Arrogance is pretty gross.

Though I've been told I inadvertently come across that way myself on occasion. :oops:



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03 Aug 2007, 5:01 am

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Yeah. Arrogance is pretty gross.



As opposed to vanity, which is pretty.



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03 Aug 2007, 7:06 am

Pandora is a loner and only has male friends.


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