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18 Mar 2022, 6:06 pm

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^^ It's all about the looks at the end of the day, the same white man who is seen as 3/10 in the looks department among his community may be seen as 9/10 in the asian community.

I agree 100%.

I'd also like to add that often, after bringing a foreign bride to the USA, she may slowly start to acclimate and realize that the "good-looking" white man that she thought was a 9/10 is actually just a 3/10 in his homeland and she can find better.

The one white man in the Philippines mogged the Filipino men; but now in his country, she can see there are better looking white men to chose from.


Actually they saw me as 8-9/10 despite them living here, in a white country (not sure if Arabs are considered Whites, but Asians do consider us Whites too).


I believe the US Beureu of Cynsus considers Arabs Caucasions.

But isn't Lebanon in Asia? Wouldn't that make you Asian?



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18 Mar 2022, 6:12 pm

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So how old is too old? What can I realistically expect being in my early 40s?



Filipinas are actually known for being willing to date older men. For instance, if you date a 25 year old woman in the west, others might think that is strange, but in The Philippines, that is normal. I would try to stick with women who are 27 or older though. Any younger than 27, and that might be a little too young.




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I'm an atheist. I don't want to dismiss anyone entirely for being a Christian, but it comes down to how serious she is about it; if she is the type that is constantly obsessed with Jesus and the Bible and church (like many are here in the Bible Belt) then I just don't see things working out. No sex before marriage would normally be a deal breaker, but someone relocating from another country is already a huge commitment.



That is something you should be upfront about because for some women, you being an atheist will be a deal-breaker. Some women are more religious than others.




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Maybe the Filipinas aren't the best choice. What about women from other Asian or South American countries?



I would avoid Indonesia as women there tend to be conservative as well in their beliefs and ideologies, probably even more so than Filipinas. They also don't speak as good of English compared to Filipinas either.

I don't have enough knowledge of women from other Asian countries through. Although if you're looking for more secular non-religious women, perhaps China, Japan, or South-Korea would be a good choice. Perhaps doing your research on how the dating scene is for foreigners in a particular country might be a good idea. Although keep in mind that you will probably need to learn the native language as many women from those countries don't speak good English. That is one advantage of looking for love in The Philippines is that English is widely spoken in that country.






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I do not trust that these kinds of sites or legit anyway. If some are, how can I tell which ones?



FilipinoCupid is legit, just expensive.

Asiandating.com is also legit, and the same company that hosts FilipinoCupid also hosts this website. The advantage of AsianDating is that you'll be talking to women from different countries, not just The Philippines.


But you should be upfront within a day or two of talking to a girl, that you will never send her money under any circumstance. That way, women who are just looking for cash, will know not to waste their time with you.



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19 Mar 2022, 3:53 am

dorkseid wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
ezbzbfcg2 wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
^^ It's all about the looks at the end of the day, the same white man who is seen as 3/10 in the looks department among his community may be seen as 9/10 in the asian community.

I agree 100%.

I'd also like to add that often, after bringing a foreign bride to the USA, she may slowly start to acclimate and realize that the "good-looking" white man that she thought was a 9/10 is actually just a 3/10 in his homeland and she can find better.

The one white man in the Philippines mogged the Filipino men; but now in his country, she can see there are better looking white men to chose from.


Actually they saw me as 8-9/10 despite them living here, in a white country (not sure if Arabs are considered Whites, but Asians do consider us Whites too).


I believe the US Beureu of Cynsus considers Arabs Caucasions.

But isn't Lebanon in Asia? Wouldn't that make you Asian?


Technically yes, we are Western Asians, In my language we never say « Asian » without indicating if east, west or south.
But I know anglophones refer to Eastern Asians
when they just say « Asians ». A bad habit I took it from them.



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19 Mar 2022, 3:56 am

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It's sexist, racist, and very likely illegal. I know that too many men, especially those of the incel variety, believe that Asian women are all submissive and will allow their men to be abusive to them. It's frightening to think this actually exists in the 21st century. Not surprising, but frightening


What are you accusing me of?


I don't even like your regular posts here but it appears the accusations are certainly applied against you for no reason to boot.


That particular user hates all men, and she wants to picture this forum as an Incel hen. But it is not. In fact, I can see she is the one who has racist typical assumptions of (East) Asian women. I have never ever met an (East) Asian who is « submissive » as some Whites claim them to be.

Carry on, let her blabber alone with her projections.



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19 Mar 2022, 5:36 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Nades wrote:
dorkseid wrote:
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It's sexist, racist, and very likely illegal. I know that too many men, especially those of the incel variety, believe that Asian women are all submissive and will allow their men to be abusive to them. It's frightening to think this actually exists in the 21st century. Not surprising, but frightening


What are you accusing me of?


I don't even like your regular posts here but it appears the accusations are certainly applied against you for no reason to boot.


That particular user hates all men, and she wants to picture this forum as an Incel hen. But it is not. In fact, I can see she is the one who has racist typical assumptions of (East) Asian women. I have never ever met an (East) Asian who is « submissive » as some Whites claim them to be.

Carry on, let her blabber alone with her projections.


It's a reoccurring theme from several users who seem to wait to pounce on men.

I had a similar experience a while ago until the thread posters started ganging up against that individual and only then was there any sort of a backing down.

A lot of posters are sexually immature (it is an autism forum afterall) and/or have their own reasons for saying what they do, whether valid or not.



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19 Mar 2022, 7:52 am

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Although if you're looking for more secular non-religious women, perhaps China, Japan, or South-Korea would be a good choice. Perhaps doing your research on how the dating scene is for foreigners in a particular country might be a good idea. Although keep in mind that you will probably need to learn the native language as many women from those countries don't speak good English.

In Japan it usually comes down to Tinder, language exchange (my path), or IRL. If you find a woman speaking fluent English in Japan, she's 99.9% likely to have lived abroad and usually judge men by the same standard as would a woman in any Western country. If you want to date a Japanese woman who has basically only lived in Japan, you'll have to put in a lot of time learning Japanese in order to make it successful. Just a fact. (And you most likely have to go to Japan first and date them there for a while.)

Since Japan is a rich but currently languishing country economically, you'll find that a lot of women will take your financial situation into deep consideration before they consider you serious material. My wife openly admitted she did so with me. The standards of attractiveness are completely different as well, so as Boo mentioned even if you're scoring low in the US you might score way higher in Japan. Just look at the anime bishounen. Can't say they look like David Hasselhoff.

No clue how you'd get a Japanese woman to move with you to the States, though, with no previous history of living together with you. I'd figure the likelihood of Catastrophic Failure is probably higher even if you could make it happen.



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19 Mar 2022, 8:04 am

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I keep seeing ads pop up online for sites like asianmoonshine.com and asian-love-magazine.com. These sites seem highly suspicious to me, but the idea of dating and marrying someone from across the world seems to be growing in popularity. I've heard about the show 90-Day Fiancé. I personally like the idea, and foreign women do seem more appealing than many of the single women here.

But I have reservations about how safe it is to look for foreign women online. I've heard of scam where women get American men to send them money b pretending to be interested in coming to the US. And I've heard of some foreign women who marry American men just to use them to get here and file for divorce as soon as their naturalization is finalized.

Ok, that right there…

I’m not a lawyer, but I did paralegal work for a while. Helped out with some divorces and even served papers a few times. Wife and I had to work through some issues early in our marriage and gave serious thought to what would happen if one of us brought up the “D” word.

Sure, your mail-order Asian bride could file for divorce. The problem is that a quick and easy NFD is something she can only ASK for and you GIVE her. People don’t realize that once you’re married, for all intents and purposes you OWN that person. And I’m not being sexist, it runs both ways.

There are all kinds of tricks you can use to legally keep you marriage together. You just have to be rock-solid consistent and not screw up.

At all times, you have to be the devoted and loving spouse who wants your SO back. No cheating. So the first thing to remember is you never, EVER agree to anything or sign any papers. Second, remember what I said about papers! There are tons of them. You can make all kinds of unreasonable demands you know she’ll never agree to, so you keep sticking it to her, bury her in paperwork, and pray that she’ll eventually just give up and come back. Third, if she’s not coming back, then you play the waiting game. People who want out of a relationship will almost always screw up and break the law. Then you stick them with a contested divorce for grounds. NOBODY wants that to happen, because it’s messy. But you collect evidence on her and make it so you keep all the marital assets in common and SHE has to pay YOU spousal support (if that applies in your jurisdiction. See actual lawyer for details). If you have kids, you can sue for primary custody AND WIN with her being forced to pay child support. You can even drag her lover into a civil suit (again, see your local laws) for stealing her.

You see, this rabbit hole is deeeeeeep. You don’t have to accept divorce if you don’t want to or if your spouse had poor intentions in the first place. You have rights and you should fight for them. Your husband or wife wants a dee-vorce? Repay them with hell. Make life a living hell all the way to the bitter end. Drag the divorce out and strike hard the instant they screw up, burning everything in your path.

Now…let’s be real. If anyone wants a divorce bad enough, they can EVENTUALLY get a divorce with or without your consent. What I’m saying is there are things you can do to reconcile, punish, or drag out proceedings as long as possible. Even when you’ve exhausted every legal option and you DO end up signing papers (reminder: no one can MAKE you sign papers), most places make you wait some 6 months before a judge will sign the divorce decree. During that time, you are still married. It often happens in that time he or she will start dating someone else. Then you can take the NFD off the table and sue for grounds. When that happens, you have to start ALL OVER AGAIN, and that will cause your husband/wife a ton of stress.

Divorce can really ruin lives. It typically doesn’t these days because it’s gotten so easy. But it’s only easy because couples make it easy, plus lawyers will use divorce grounds as leverage for an easy divorce for their client and big fees for themselves—by blackmail, and lawyers get away with it more times than you’d think. Contested divorces cost time, money, and energy for the lawyer, and they hate that. But you have that option. If you want to, you can utterly destroy your SO if they choose to go that route.

Sounds cruel, I know. But divorce is cruel anyway. I’ve heard people say “If you love him/her, why not just let them go? Don’t you want him/her to be happy?” If it happened to me, I’d ask, “Yeah, but what about MY happiness?” Seriously, doesn’t that count for something? Geez, it’s like your feelings and well-being only matter if you’re the one walking away. That’s not right or fair, either.

So if I were on that end of a mail-order Asian bride thing, I would gently tell her up front I’m not a nice guy and I’m not inclined to just let it go. If you want easy citizenship, look elsewhere. But if you want a good, lifelong relationship, I’ll treat you like the queen you are. My marriage has worked well because we’ve been so open about everything and because we’re committed to it before all else. We’re best friends, and we don’t even bring up the “D” word. Regardless of where your bride comes from, as long as you both have that kind of understanding, you have nothing to worry about.

The good news about Asian brides is traditional culture discourages divorce, anyway. They just want a good man, that’s all, and part of looking to western men means they can’t find what they want where they are. So just be careful and make sure the girl is real and avoid scams. If you get taken for a ride, you don’t have to accept it. Give ’em hell and let that be a lesson for the next girl thinking about doing the same thing.



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20 Mar 2022, 9:24 pm

First of all: I do not have the means to afford to bring someone here from another country, or to provide her with housing and other necessities upon arrival.

Aside from that: I have not touched a woman in over a decade, and if I desperately need a partner now because I am losing my mind. I do not have the time to invest in a long distance relationship, especially considering that there's no guarantee either of us will like the other once we actually meet.

This is not a viable option.



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21 Mar 2022, 5:58 pm

dorkseid wrote:
First of all: I do not have the means to afford to bring someone here from another country, or to provide her with housing and other necessities upon arrival.

Aside from that: I have not touched a woman in over a decade, and if I desperately need a partner now because I am losing my mind. I do not have the time to invest in a long distance relationship, especially considering that there's no guarantee either of us will like the other once we actually meet.

This is not a viable option.

I get it. I just wanted to clarify some things that I think are worth discussing, like the idea of marrying for the green card and dumping a husband as soon as she gets citizenship. There are scams, but there are ways of fighting back, too.