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15 Apr 2023, 9:47 pm

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I suppose a crush can become an obsession. When I was a teenager I was prone to getting crushes on random men and sometimes it would turn into an obsession. And, believe me, that is not healthy. If I were a guy obsessing like that over women I'd probably have gotten arrested. But society is more accepting of girls obsessing over men, so I was just seen as an annoying pest. I knew what I was doing, but the obsession was like what heroin is to drug-addicts: everything. The obsessions I had took over my mind and my life and became more important than my schoolwork, friends, exams, and ambitions. And I didn't even enjoy these obsessions. It alienated me and I felt quite isolated by it, especially when my closest relatives started telling me not to talk about my obsessions. But how can you not talk about something that's overtook your mind and is more important than anything else?

I think I should have got the same help for my obsessions that a heroin addict gets for their addiction, because it was that bad. :(

Not crushes, but I had this problem with my other special interests at one point. I developed a legitimate addiction to my special interest. I wonder how common an issue this is for ASD folk.


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15 Apr 2023, 9:49 pm

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I think I should have got the same help for my obsessions that a heroin addict gets for their addiction, because it was that bad. :(


What kind of help can be available for obsessions like that? Or any other type of obsession that takes over your life?

It should be treated as an addiction imo, because at some point that is what it becomes. Mine was so bad I got legitimate withdrawals that made me want to kermit.


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15 Apr 2023, 11:01 pm

I'd assume it would have the same therapeutic and pharmaceutical treatment as any other OCD or perseveration.


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15 Apr 2023, 11:04 pm

I resolved my obsession/addiction without professional involvement, so idk. It took my brain like two years to go back to normal though..... I remained in a continual state of severely depressed until that point.


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15 Apr 2023, 11:07 pm

colliegrace wrote:
I resolved my obsession/addiction without professional involvement, so idk. It took my brain like two years to go back to normal though..... I remained in a continual state of severely depressed until that point.


Oh for sure people can do it on their own.
I just meant if they weren't able, or if it was severely affecting their life. ^
My daughter has this issue a bit.
She's always had obsessive "people interests", so I know what you're all referring to.

I've only been obsessed with dead people, myself.
I mean authors and artists from other centuries.


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15 Apr 2023, 11:13 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:
colliegrace wrote:
I resolved my obsession/addiction without professional involvement, so idk. It took my brain like two years to go back to normal though..... I remained in a continual state of severely depressed until that point.


Oh for sure people can do it on their own.
I just meant if they weren't able, or if it was severely affecting their life. ^
My daughter has this issue a bit.
She's always had obsessive "people interests", so I know what you're all referring to.

I've only been obsessed with dead people, myself.
I mean authors and artists from other centuries.

I went ahead and started a separate thread on this topic. I'm curious how common an experience it is for ASD/neurodivergent folk.


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16 Apr 2023, 2:21 am

We tend to have bigger heads so, maybe.

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16 Apr 2023, 2:54 pm

My head's small for my size. :roll:


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16 Apr 2023, 2:56 pm

I crush like a hydraulic press. :oops:


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18 Apr 2023, 7:39 pm

I've only had one crush in my life & it was extremely intense. She was my special interest & I was very obsessed. She very likely literally has no clue I even exist & the crush may of been a little bit of a delusional disorder like Erotomania. It faded a bit when I got in my 2nd relationship but came back rite after that relationship ended after half a year. The crush faded again some when I got in my current relationship 11 years ago but the crush is still there some. All three relationships I've had were all very intense as well & I was very obsessed with them during & after the 1st two relationships ended until I got in another relationship. I'm still obsessed with my current but very luckily we've been living together for over 10 years now so it's a lot easier to manage.


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18 Apr 2023, 10:21 pm

colliegrace wrote:
I resolved my obsession/addiction without professional involvement, so idk. It took my brain like two years to go back to normal though..... I remained in a continual state of severely depressed until that point.


What were some of the things you did to resolve it?



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19 Apr 2023, 12:46 pm

My mum once knew a boy with ADHD who had got an obsessive sexual crush on her. While expelled from school (due to bad behaviour) and being at home a lot, he used his time to spy on the house my mum lived in at the time, and when everyone had gone out he found ways to break in just to steal her shoes. He didn't steal anything else; not money or expensive gadgets, just my mum's shoes. To cut a long story short, he finally got found out and the police searched his room and found all of my mum's shoes under his bed, arranged very neatly. He was tested for drugs but was clear. It wasn't drugs that was making him do these things, it was the demands of an obsession with impulses that he found hard to resist. He admitted it all to the police and to his parents and accepted help. He said he didn't like his obsession but found it hard to control himself, because he was feeling depressed, lonely and frustrated by being expelled from school. He was only 14 at the time.

I understand that feeling. While I never broke into people's houses, I still got obsessions that were difficult to resist. When your mind is 100% occupied with an obsession, it's like a computer that's infected with malware. All my thoughts were taken up with the obsession I had at the time and I acted on impulse, like not being able to do anything until I have spoken to him, so any opportunity I had of him noticing me I didn't waste, even if it meant making an embarrassing nuisance of myself. I wasn't unaware of the social cues though, it was just I couldn't resist the urge. I had to do it, I had to go through hell and high water just to see my crush for 2 seconds, whether he liked it or not. I just had to. I nearly got into trouble with the police but being a girl they seemed to pass it off as a 'teenage obsession'. And it did pass. I wouldn't call it a special interest, because it took a hold of me and I didn't enjoy it at all. So if it wasn't exactly classed as a special interest as such then I can say that I have never really had a special interest before.


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19 Apr 2023, 3:07 pm

^^^Do you have an idea of what kind of help they gave that boy Joe :?: What your describing of him & yourself sounds to me like it could be sever OCD. Your case reminds me of myself when crushing & being in a relationship. I'm on a med for OCD that helps my OCD in other ways & I'm also on an antipsychotic to prevent meltdowns & irritability but the meds didn't seem to have an effect on my obsessing & crushing on my gf nor my crush. Talking about it just goes round & round in circles. At this point I kinda accepted that the crush will last the rest of my life & I kinda learned to live with the pain of not being with her. At least practicing avoidance helps some. Focusing on my girlfriend helps a bit as well. It's like I'm under the effects of a drug.


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20 Apr 2023, 11:26 am

ProfessorJohn wrote:
When we form a crush on someone, do you think it is more intense than the crushes that NTs generally form? That seems to have been my experience-that past crushes involved me feeling more intense about it than the other person did. I would think about the person all of the time. Given our tendency to hyperfixate on things, this would make sense. We can make the object of our crush a special interest for us.

Anyone else have this experience?

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It is not possible to measure the intensity of a crush.

You are just one person. (n=1) is not a representative sample. Other autistics might have stronger or weaker crush intensities than you.

There is no way for someone to communicate objectively the intensity of a crush.

Not a controlled experiment.

In your situation, maybe the other person just did not find you attractive. If and when someone finds you attractive, maybe they will get an intense crush.

Different people find different things attractive. Just like some people like apples, some people like bananas, and some people like mangos.

If nobody has a crush on you, that does not show/prove/mean anything about you.

Some people with a lot of friends, or people that are attractive to others, are not always as great as they appear.



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ProfessorJohn wrote:
When we form a crush on someone, do you think it is more intense than the crushes that NTs generally form? That seems to have been my experience-that past crushes involved me feeling more intense about it than the other person did. I would think about the person all of the time. Given our tendency to hyperfixate on things, this would make sense. We can make the object of our crush a special interest for us.

Anyone else have this experience?


I sure did as a youngster.
I mean, I still have developed intense feelings for someone but as a pre-teen or teen, it was completely over the top.
I had zero means of controlling my feelings and zero ways to parlay them into any kind of confidence.
I couldn't muster up the courage to talk to someone, or if I did, of course I sounded and acted like a giant dork, and the usual responses embarrassed me no end.

I've since learned how to navigate a little better but even my wife says I looked like a lovesick puppy when I first met her in 1984. Ah well, it only took fourteen years of pining away for her and one failed marriage each for her to finally give me a chance :lol:

I was a goner the moment I laid eyes on her.
And you know what? It wasn't just how attractive she was, it was her vibe man, her vibe...
She was real, she was what computer people call WYSIWYG, "What You See Is What You Get".

She said what she meant and she meant what she said, no masks, no games, no guile, no deceit, she felt like a real person, which made her so approachable it was like a force of nature to me.
I knew right away she was really something.



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08 May 2023, 1:55 pm

Yes.


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