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20 Apr 2025, 2:45 pm

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I'd just become a monk :lol:


Being or becoming a monk doesn't sound so bad! :lol:



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20 Apr 2025, 2:47 pm

Alana's got a lot to answer for hasn't she

I mean it's OK to say she meant it in good faith after the fact innit


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20 Apr 2025, 2:49 pm

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Alana's got a lot to answer for hasn't she

I mean it's OK to say she meant it in good faith after the fact innit


I don't think she would foresee the development of what today's incel culture has become. The article seems to imply she created the community in... 1997? Which was a long time ago and a whole other world.



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20 Apr 2025, 2:59 pm

Yeah I suppose


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20 Apr 2025, 3:04 pm

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I sometimes think I'd probably be an incel if I raised the bar a bit higher


I thought the point was incels have no standards and still can't find anyone?


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20 Apr 2025, 3:07 pm

But I still think the statistic could be true but it's nothing to do with anything malicious. It's just the way it is

Like when you're young you might be more inclined to "punch" and thats where the 20% of people are but when you get a bit older and realise that the 20% are just people under the illusion then you start to get real and go for people who are more on your own level of expectations

Personally I've never "punched" because I just wanna chill but if I did then I might have always been left on the shelf


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20 Apr 2025, 3:09 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
babybird wrote:
I sometimes think I'd probably be an incel if I raised the bar a bit higher


I thought the point was incels have no standards and still can't find anyone?


Oh right I'm thinking the opposite


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20 Apr 2025, 3:10 pm

I don't think I've knowingly met someone who identifies as one


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20 Apr 2025, 3:32 pm

I'm still not getting it.
If the "in" is short for "involuntary", why choose to be one?

And if you somehow got lumped in with them, is being even more of of a prick really your best way to get laid?

Not that I'm qualified to have an opinion anymore. My charm seems to have evanesced and the sublime has sublimated.



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20 Apr 2025, 3:34 pm

Thanks man
I was starting to feel stupid


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20 Apr 2025, 3:37 pm

Carbonhalo wrote:
I'm still not getting it.
If the "in" is short for "involuntary", why choose to be one?

And if you somehow got lumped in with them, is being even more of of a prick really your best way to get laid?

Not that I'm qualified to have an opinion anymore. My charm seems to have evanesced and the sublime has sublimated.


I don't think people choose to be one, at least not consciously.

They just realize the label is appropriate for their situation.


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20 Apr 2025, 3:40 pm

It's kinda like they've claimed the word for themselves so as it can't be used as an insult against them, so it must have been used as a derogatory term against them in the first place

But that's sort of bit them on the arse

I don't feel sorry for these guys but they might actually be really nice guys if they give themselves a chance and dropped the label


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20 Apr 2025, 3:48 pm

It seems to me that the label is just something negative that people align with or embrace, due to circumstances, but which can actually be a self-fulfilling prophecy.

I mean, for incels who move on from being an incel, either temporarily or permanently - who has the better chance of getting a date, someone who labels themselves as an incel, or someone who is just (hopefully temporarily) single?



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20 Apr 2025, 3:52 pm

Do you think it's front some of the time then maybe


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20 Apr 2025, 4:30 pm

As I recall, when I was in my 20s I found well over half the women my age attractive enough to come on to.


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20 Apr 2025, 4:34 pm

Oh yeah and how did that work out for you then


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