Assumptions you make about women based on dress sense
i found i notice girls who look "harmonious" - for lack of a better word.
a lady can be all dolled up, and that can totally catch my eye. if shes prettied up tastefully, can wear it, fits herself... when it all goes together nicely.
just as well, a girl can be wearing the most casual kind of clothes, maybe even tomboyish things like army trousers and a huge t-shirt - if it fits with her, how she wears it etcetera... thats just as great as something tiny, short and black, glimmery earrings and high heels in my book.
in regards to the underwear thread in the adult section: theres women who look stunning in frilly, half-transparent and whatnot underwear, and theres girls who look just as seductively in plain white cotton panties.
its about fitting... if you feel at home, yourself, and comfortable in high heels, short skirts et al... by all means go for it. if you have a blue day and want to just walk around in flat sports shoes, jeans and some sweater - do it.
you are right.
my basic problem is that I have no inbetween point between very very dressed up and adrogeny. I guess I feel most comfortable in skinny jeans, brogues, skinny cut trench, and a nice flowery shirt. With a nice cardigan if cold. The trouble is most people then think I'm a pretty, adrogenous guy.
I have officially decided to stop thinking about this issue altogether because it is doing my nut in.
Hmm... well I am a girl, so can't say anything for anyone else...
but I honestly never notice what people are wearing... like I see it, but never think anything about it, unless it really stands out (like a pretty skirt that *I* want, or some goofy attire that doesn't go or something)... but definitly don't think anything of the person wearing it because they chose it o_O;;;
I actually don't think all that much about my attire... I tend to like skirts and stuff, so go around wearing w/e I think looks nice at the moment... although I've had people say to me "why are you so dressed up today?" when only time I left my room was for dinner... so guess I fail at this dress sense stuff
I really think you should just go with whats comfortable... after all, your the most you in your comfort clothing, wearing soemthing a tad too short and constantly worrying about it being too short, or pulling it down, or wondering if your makeup smeared or whatever puts more stress on the situation than you need, as well as splitting your attention and putting your mind into a 'superficial' state.. you may NOT be superficial, but if your not comfortable with what your wearing, your mind is gonna subconciously think about it, and you won't fully be you ^^
Of course, you could be very comfortable in such clothing, in which case, go for it and wear it
Now that you know what makes you feel invisible you might as well remember that for the times you want to be invisible. It is 90% how you feel that is important. It will have a knock on effect on how you will carry the clothing, surely? You should wear something that you’d feel comfortable in and gives you confidence. At the same time if no clothes on earth are going to make you feel that way, then you need to learn to feel good about yourself by other means.
Quite a lot of style can just come from within. I know a girl who has been hand painting her nails since she was a teen in different patterns and designs. She told me they can last a number of weeks before she has to change it. She is also naturally drawn to anything stripy and also sparky. You may not think that is particularly special but the way she caries it off is because she is always genuine. It suits her pop and 80s roller disco venues that she likes to go to.
Very much personal taste but I tend to like things that are not 'obvious' maybe that little bit unique or different with materials, textures, patterns and colours, concepts, etc.
There is nothing intrinsically wrong with miniskirts and heals or trying to look and feel sexy. It is more a question of applications and types. A girl doesn’t look ‘hot’ or better to me just because of because of it, but you can use skin, flesh and bones as a valid part of your outfit in order to make you look and hopefully feel sexy/sensual amongst a whole host of other ways you could do it. I would avoid a denim skirt, fishnets, white heals and tight top/or, shirt tied above the midriff, for example. Way too boring. Wool/blend skirts can look very sexy on a woman. They look sophisticated and good quality in a way that a skirt made from just cotton wouldn’t. Dresses can look equally good as a skirt if not better. Trousers and leggings look hot, black leggings less so. You might as well reverse the status quo and go for a single colour skirt and top or dress and patterned leggings. Anything PVC and glossy/candy lip gloss definitely not sexy IMO. Yes with the brogues, suits, hats (pillbox maybe?), etc.
It can just be one tiny detail that makes you stand out such as a bracelet. If you have nice bracket, scarf, belt or whatever might stand out under the lights, you can use that as your focal point.
Shape wise: Clothes that are not just curvy but also have lines and angles are good. Realistically if you got a burlap sack and cut holes in it for the head and arms and you would only need to something like a belt to get some shape. I bet it would look quite fetching too. Might be a bit itchy though
There are the more standard Indie clothes like PLO head scarves and sailors outfits have been done to death. I wouldn’t be surprised if somebody walked into a venue with sporting a lime green burrka. Then again I wouldn’t go for something too themed, but borrowing from other applications is kind of cool.
I always liked the feel of the sailcloth smocks I wore for art at school and how straight cut they are, especially how the pockets are just two abrupt rectangles at the front, and especially the ‘round’ collar on some fisherman’s smocks that cuts straight across the neck. I’m getting one that is just the bare canvas/sailcloth then I’m going to put a design on it. Your probably not seeing, it but the few online pictures don’t really do it justice at all. I think this is quite a unisex piece of clothing. It makes sense to me that the basic shape should be used in more applications.
Short hair looks good on you. The hair does have and impact on how a woman looks and feel, it seems. I remember doing this test on attractiveness and the candidates were all Miss Germany contestants. But they looked kind of rough because their hair had to be pulled back tight for the purpose of this test. The one the couldn't quite manage it/cheated got my vote. Just that tiny bit of body or length to the hair creates a feminine pretty girl. The tom boy thing is a no bad thing all at.
alright mr. I like your reply. I can't believe how long it is! I'm sorry I haven't written you a PM in ages. I would write you one now were I not supposed to be writing an essay. But anyway...
I doubt you'll be suprised to learn that I've never hit the town in white heels and a denim mini. My dressed up look is still - suprise suprise - a bit indie. I got far too excited about high waisted shorts coming back into fashion, and I'll typically wear them with a pinstripe shirt tucked in, and suede playform court shoes. The thing that always occurs to me when I look in the mirror is that I'm not actually showing that much flesh, because I cover my legs up with the thickest ribbed tights money can buy.
Thanks for making me feel like showing a sense of style is the most important thing, (that seems to be the gist of your post). I guess I posted this thread in a fit of worry. I think a small part of me knew that most people are noticing interesting details rather than exercising prejudice.
I feel good enough to write my essay now.
Take as long as you like no sweat. Yes it is a bit long sorry...ever so slightly worrying.
I thought so yes.
I feel good enough to write my essay now.
I wasn't worrying, I just had something to say on the matter and hoped it might be helpful. Glad it made you feel a bit better
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Please forgive me if this comes across with aspie rudeness, because that's not my intention, I'm actually curious. But... are guys who target their love interest based on physical appearance alone, like in a club... ever "The Right Type of Man"?
Achh . . no matter how edumacated and polished we make ourselves, we're still just apes with car keys; ain't no changing that. Just because we drool like Pavlov's dog when a fine female frame is on display doesn't mean we're bad people. And as is displayed by Sarah's reaction, you'd worry if we didn't.
I should add, too, that we wouldn't necessarily consider a woman who is dressed very sexily not to be intelligent per se.
I would think that she was out stalking big game -- like a Donald Trump or O.J. Simpson kind of guy that would use her as arm candy.
Not that any of the guys here would be averse to using you as arm candy, if that was your desire. But, 99.99999% of the time, that wouldn't be the desire of a woman who appeared excessively glamorous.
I would think that she was out stalking big game -- like a Donald Trump or O.J. Simpson kind of guy that would use her as arm candy.
Not that any of the guys here would be averse to using you as arm candy, if that was your desire. But, 99.99999% of the time, that wouldn't be the desire of a woman who appeared excessively glamorous.
"stalking big game"... hilarious. Makes me think of girls in camoflage minis taking rifles to the bar. But I see what you mean. Incidentally, I have had two boyfriends who were more than a decade older than me, who did sort of use me as arm candy. And I do have to remind myself that others don't want the same things they wanted.
That's funny. Yesterday I heard of boyfriends being referred to as "assessories." Today, girlfriends are "arm candy." I've heard of "trophy wives" (Has someone else been polishing your trophy wife?) but these are new to me.
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Please forgive me if this comes across with aspie rudeness, because that's not my intention, I'm actually curious. But... are guys who target their love interest based on physical appearance alone, like in a club... ever "The Right Type of Man"?
Achh . . no matter how edumacated and polished we make ourselves, we're still just apes with car keys; ain't no changing that. Just because we drool like Pavlov's dog when a fine female frame is on display doesn't mean we're bad people. And as is displayed by Sarah's reaction, you'd worry if we didn't.
Oh, bad people, no. I didn't intend to insinuate that. But I don't think that all guys go around leering at strangers and I've always personally been more impressed and attracted to men who show temperance in that regard, because I see it as a sign of self-discipline and the willingness to direct their urges toward a single source. Not to mention that I really respect a guy who shares my ideals and is willing to be counter-cultural in order to live up to them. I know not everyone shares my preferences.
Anyhow, her answer about these venues being places to meet people for friendship and fun makes sense to me. The only club I've ever been in was clearly nothing more than a meat market, so that's part of my frame of reference. I imagine that many places are much nicer.
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Assume that both are well maintained, ie. decent haircut, make up on, not smelling, etc.
Do you notice the more casually dressed woman at all?
I may as well admit this is a bit of paranoia on my part, I've decided to calm down my dress sense, (and drink less) so that I don't attract "The Wrong Type Of Man", but I went out twice and felt invisible.
If I were to hit on one I would go with the one who was more casual dressed because she would be less likely to be a major whore.
Although, that is kind of like reverse analysis so it could be a TRAP.
It doesn't really matter because I don't go to pubs/bar/clubs anyway because they support alcoholism.
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