AS daisy-chain - no money, no honey

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05 Jan 2008, 11:09 pm

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This being a statement of what your life is like, its pretty hard to know how to respond to it. Do you want people to agree with you, or argue with you, or give suggestions as to how you might overcome your problems?



I'm just looking for someone to relate to my situation. I'm reaching out. If I find no one "gets" my situation, then I must be in the wrong group.

If I had realized I had AS much earlier, I might have averted some of the troubles and wasted time I've experienced.
My original intent with the post was to express how I felt undiagnosed AS led me to waste a lot of time in life. Social interaction impaired everything down the line -career-dating choices-posessions-community associations.


well, having been in the same position as you, forgive me if I am a bit amused by the naivety that now you have been diagnosed that everything is going to be hunky dory now!

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05 Jan 2008, 11:14 pm

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It's not like I am completely dateless. I can get a date anytime, but women in certain age groups are not interested in me for a serious relationship, for all the reasons I gave.


There's your problem. Most women aren't into serious relationships anymore... at least very few that I know of...

Come to think of it, most NT's (male or female) are not interested in serious relationships at all... I cite the divorce rate, especially here in the States, as proof of that, as people don't want to deal with long-term commitments anymore...



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05 Jan 2008, 11:17 pm

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0hanrahan wrote:
It's not like I am completely dateless. I can get a date anytime, but women in certain age groups are not interested in me for a serious relationship, for all the reasons I gave.


There's your problem. Most women aren't into serious relationships anymore... at least very few that I know of...

Come to think of it, most NT's (male or female) are not interested in serious relationships at all... I cite the divorce rate, especially here in the States, as proof of that, as people don't want to deal with long-term commitments anymore...


So what do they want to deal with nowadays?

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05 Jan 2008, 11:26 pm

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well, having been in the same position as you, forgive me if I am a bit amused by the naivety that now you have been diagnosed that everything is going to be hunky dory now!

Merle



I don't expect it all to be hunky dory. It's like a chess game or mystery book. I've the puzzle pieces together now. Every trail leads back to the AS. From there I can work to craft the life I need, or to make lifestyle mods. Since learning of AS, I've challenged myself socially, worked on talking and acting, changed my diet (now Gluten Free), and recently started taking Carnosine. Understanding why I thought and perceived the way I did has really helped me. It wasn't depression, it wasn't because I was stupid, it wasn't because I'm ugly - I just didn't know how to interface with regular NTs, or avoid hyper obsessions.

Be thankful if some of you discovered your AS in your teens or younger, and were able to make adaptations. That alone saved you years of misanthropy, disillusionment and hurt.



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05 Jan 2008, 11:36 pm

I make 90K a year and the type of women that attracts is appalling. They are just losers with a pretty face looking for a meal ticket.


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05 Jan 2008, 11:37 pm

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I make 90K a year and the type of women that attracts is appalling. They are just losers with a pretty face looking for a meal ticket.


That sucks.

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05 Jan 2008, 11:55 pm

Personally, I obviously haven't had an issue meeting women. I've been married (and divorced twice), and that doesn't count all my flings in-between. I have noticed in my town though, that many women just don't want a serious committed relationship. I think a lot of this is attributable to things such as divorce rate and the fact they've just been burned one to many times in relationships.

As far as money, I haven't really seen it as a hindrance to completely finding a mate, though it definitely doesn't hurt to have a little to throw around.

I can tell you that no woman wants to hear from a guy how sad and depressing his relationship status is. Most women I know like confident men in general, or at least men that project a confident nature. They will definitely notice that over your pocketbook first.



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05 Jan 2008, 11:56 pm

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Personally, I obviously haven't had an issue meeting women. I've been married (and divorced twice), and that doesn't count all my flings in-between. I have noticed in my town though, that many women just don't want a serious committed relationship. I think a lot of this is attributable to things such as divorce rate and the fact they've just been burned one to many times in relationships.

As far as money, I haven't really seen it as a hindrance to completely finding a mate, though it definitely doesn't hurt to have a little to throw around.

I can tell you that no woman wants to hear from a guy how sad and depressing his relationship status is. Most women I know like confident men in general, or at least men that project a confident nature. They will definitely notice that over your pocketbook first.


Finding one I am compatible with is also difficult.

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06 Jan 2008, 12:15 am

sinsboldly wrote:
so glad to know it is all the woman's fault that guys can't get laid.
Damn women, always looking out for their own best interests!
Merle


yes. There seems to be a pattern with guys who think derrogatory terms used to describe women are okay and it's the woman's fault for taking it the wrong way too.

Guys like this will never get it. I'm feeling disenchanted.

Also, to the OP...I learned about it late too. I wish I had learned earlier for the same reasons.


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06 Jan 2008, 12:50 am

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well, having been in the same position as you, forgive me if I am a bit amused by the naivety that now you have been diagnosed that everything is going to be hunky dory now!

Merle



I don't expect it all to be hunky dory. It's like a chess game or mystery book. I've the puzzle pieces together now. Every trail leads back to the AS. From there I can work to craft the life I need, or to make lifestyle mods. Since learning of AS, I've challenged myself socially, worked on talking and acting, changed my diet (now Gluten Free), and recently started taking Carnosine. Understanding why I thought and perceived the way I did has really helped me. It wasn't depression, it wasn't because I was stupid, it wasn't because I'm ugly - I just didn't know how to interface with regular NTs, or avoid hyper obsessions.

Be thankful if some of you discovered your AS in your teens or younger, and were able to make adaptations. That alone saved you years of misanthropy, disillusionment and hurt.


I was 57 when I found out. I told you I understood.


Merle



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06 Jan 2008, 1:28 am

Not many people want a "loser", no matter what gender they are; insert whatever socially undesirable "impediment" in the place of "loser" and it's just the same.

Money impeded
looks impeded
brains impeded
socially impeded
status impeded
strength/health impeded
et cetera

The more of the impediments you have the greater the likelihood of people finding you undesirable as a mate (survival and all that).



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06 Jan 2008, 7:09 am

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That phenomenon is attributed to relative cultural prestige. In less educated areas, and min-cultures, wealth appears in the form of toys (cars, electronics) or bling of various sorts. You also tend to find a regression in humanity back to despotism and a removal from modern civilization. In despotism, the loudest and most aggressive wins and gets the spoils, then everyone else couples with what's left.

Here's my problem: I don't live in a project or trailer park where I might be one of the "upwardly mobile". And since I've experienced a different second half of life and education, I am removed from rough neck culture. But I don't have the means to buy into the Joneses culture.



I think that smacks at little bit of distorting things to suit your thesis.

One think I've noticed about people who complain about how picky people are, is they are nearly always blissfully unawares about how picky they are and in fact everyone is. There is nothing especially 'wrong' with being selective.

Everyone has some sort of requirement, and unless you have no personality it usually a bit more complex and individual than the aforementioned. Or are you saying it is not for you?

Even if you take want you say as absolute truth I'm sure there will be a subset of people that meet your requirements if you use your head. Use what you have, I wouldn't focus on the negatives, unless you hope to improve them.



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06 Jan 2008, 7:21 am

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Don't blame AS. This is called being a loser.
And plenty of teachers have "mates". You're just making excuses.

Er...Fight fire with fire?:twisted:

He may be (very) misguided but it takes one to know one. I didn't figure out how to have true reciprocal friends until I was 23-24

You are only a looser if you think you are, in my book.



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06 Jan 2008, 3:55 pm

Hmm your experience sounds similar to mine, especially regarding career. I don't want to have a fancy career making tons of money, I'm going to be a math teacher... and use the free time to write music in some capacity.

Are there no women out there that are so focused on money and careers? I would imagine many this is a concern, but I think there are probably some... the more creative/free-thinking types that don't care at all.


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06 Jan 2008, 4:16 pm

Of course there are women out there who dont care about how much money a guy makes just like there are guys who dont care about what size boobs or how skinny a women isn't.

They're good at hiding though so you have to be sneaky when hunting them so dont wear bright colors.



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06 Jan 2008, 5:17 pm

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They're good at hiding though so you have to be sneaky when hunting them so dont wear bright colors.


So they'll run away from my brightly colored Hawaiian Shirts... :cry:

That's just the kind of girl I'm looking for...


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