Geeky girls are just as mean

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Hmm... I read this and went off to think about it for a while.

At first I wanted to contradict you because I thought you were saying that deviance leads to wisdom, then I realized we're actually on the same page. Or nearby. Just gonna muse here... it might not come out very coherent I suppose.

We can see that some people lead pretty dangerous lives in their youth and come out full of zen and wisdom. We can see also that plenty of their companions just spiral down into a pit of selfishness and despair. I think what's going on is that someone who appears to have made a lot of atypical or counter-cultural choices isn't necessarily choosing to explore and learn... he may just be going with the flow of his own emotions and urges (or bowing to the pressure of whichever mini-culture he has been around), even if ostensibly he was raging against the machine. That subsection of "rebels" is really made of sheep, just as much as the cookie-cutter crowd. It seems like there's a certain quality that ends up being invaluable for sustaining relationships, and it transcends all cultural spheres and backgrounds.

The examined life vs. the unexamined life, I guess. Is that the difference between the peaceful girlfriend and the one who freaks out because you squeeze the toothpaste tube from the middle? I don't know... maybe it's not always readily obvious what kind of life someone is leading. I've known smart, progressive people who'd put their lives at stake to campaign for social justice... then go home and rip their partners to shreds over small potatoes.

Maybe it's humility that makes the difference. Real, genuine humility. The kind that doesn't come unless you work hard for it and are not destroyed or infected by trials but rather galvanized by experience (whether that be observations of others or first-hand involvement).

So "worldwise", yes... maybe that sort of wisdom will only come to those whose lives have robbed them of their arrogance.

Geeky girls are viewed of as mean because they don't take crap. It's not mean, it's just that alot of males get away with saying some really rude stuff because it's just considered "not a big deal" but when a woman stands up for herself, suddenly she is mean for doing so.

Geeky girls would be a hell of alot nicer if you would quit treating them as though they are dumb women who like to go shopping alot and have nothing important to talk about.

Geeky girls can be nicer or they can be really vicious. It's up to you like a Zork game to choose what road you want to travel down in the geeky girl's world.

I also wonder if living certain ways and having certain types of internal dialog actually does slowly hedge away at certain types of ego. I mean it doesn't hedge away at the straight-with-the-law and staying out of trouble way, they'd still beat the sense out of someone who was messing with em, but with everything in between it seems like they're polish in dealing with people and they're honor in terms of holding to terms, treating their friends well, and being true to their word with the people they care about really seems to go on the incline; then again part of that is probably also that transition between late teens and early twenties that I was seeing so I guess I can't be surprised if maybe my observation of that just had more to do with the fact that the particular crowd I was talking to a lot were either friends of mine from way back or the friends who I mentioned in the last post.



You know, I don't think they ever saw it as being deliberately rebellious. They did what they liked to do because they liked to do it. Drink, smoke, trip, roll, hit the yay, it was more about partying and as you had indicated a lot of that was very self serving and short sighted and it (particularly because they took it all to a place well over excess). Still, its hard to really make the delineation of sheep either just because with a lot of the people I knew like this, there was no clear leader of a group of friends commanding the rest, just like minded people doing what they wanted to do and they were overall different. The one close friend I had from that sort of group, kind of like one of the friends I have right now in our neighborhood, used to be very much like that, very much a fighter, but at the same time they were something like independents - they had their friends but at the same time they hung with and talked to anyone, the high school social territories and who to hang with/not hang with wasn't really something they paid a lot of heed to - if they wanted to hang with someone and saw something in them that they liked in terms of personal ethics or values, that's just how it went.



True, its complicated. I could get into descriptives on this but it would take a lot of e-paper, just because every instance would need to be pretty well explained; things can happen so many different ways, under different timing, different intent, that all those things matter so just saying one or two things probably wouldn't capture the dynamic well. I think when partners coerce each other over the more arbitrary conformity issues - out of fear, or they end up hating interests they don't understand even when the other partner isn't putting the interest ahead of them, especially those times where if your with someone, your stuck working 40 hours a week, going to school part time, and you've got someone who won't leave till 4:00 AM, says "Are you kicking me out?" when you say your tired, and after a while says "Hey, if your at work, school, and can't be there for me I can easily find someone that will" - that last scenario happened to me in the past and I was more than happy to cut my losses. I also just think general brittleness, lack of altruism, or not being able to approach relationship problems analytically are also signs of immaturity; some guys would tell me that its too much to expect of women but I disagree, I know plenty of women who can. I hate how traditional roles and attitudes have pieced up some people's willpower to do, heck, what's even best for them in the long term.

wise words.

That is not true at all. It's actually the other way around. Females that crave attention will end up cheating when their male partner is not giving them the attention they crave. It happens alot.

If you are a computer geek and spend too much time playing computer games and you are with a female that craves attention, she will be more prone to find it elsewhere in comparison to a geeky girl who has her own hobbies.

From my experience, if you have a girlfriend that constantly accuses you of cheating it's probable that she the one doing the, ahem, "playing around." I've never dated an AS woman before so it'd be difficult to compare and contrast. Normies occupy a bell curve, most people are somewhere in the middle with the exceptions being at the trailing ends.

Never been much for computer games, but my thing is memorizing license plates to and from work. Thankfully, this doesn't interfere with past relationships...

Tim

From my experience, if you have a girlfriend that constantly accuses you of cheating it's probable that she the one doing the, ahem, "playing around." I've never dated an AS woman before so it'd be difficult to compare and contrast. Normies occupy a bell curve, most people are somewhere in the middle with the exceptions being at the trailing ends.

Never been much for computer games, but my thing is memorizing license plates to and from work. Thankfully, this doesn't interfere with past relationships...

Tim

Geeky girls have come into power.

There are so many geek girls now that they have bargaining power. Who else are you going to go to?

Really I see groups getting bigger and swallowing up others. Preps and goths basically. Geeks live in the goth zone. Hot Topic has all the video game and movie geek stuff we love.

Preps are the fitness nuts who are pro political and team sports.

Soon there will be only two casts.

It normally means untidy and unkempt. I believe it comes from the word dag which is a lump of poo caught in the wool around a sheep's anus. I must add that if an Aussie on this forum calls you a dag, don't take offence to it. Normally it is meant as a friendly dig.

On topic:
I wouldn't disagree that there would be some "geeky" girls out there who are quite nasty. My experience with them (limited as it may be) has been fairly positive. Geeks in general get a hard time from their peers more so than the average person and I believe that this makes many a lot more understanding and easier to get on with. They also tend to be more interesting imo and for me, easier to find common ground with. A "geeky" girl would be the sort I'd prefer to have friendships with and certainly be the sort, I'd prefer to have a relationship with.

Society tells you not to do some things for good reasons.

Going against society for sole purpose of "Not conforming to the norm" doesn't make you more intelligent or more mature; it just makes you arrogant and in most cases: screwed.

no one has loved me forever yet.

But I do keep hearing weird things from people here and there. Like at my last job, with the girl who was training me. I came back after the weekend, told here I'd been downtown drinking with my buddies, and she said something to the effect of "Yeah, I used to be all rebellious like that but I kinda got it out of my system a few years ago". For one, she was only 25, and I've heard that rebelling thing from other people. I don't get it, doing something just to rebel sounds really stupid - like you really are just doing things to be a sheep and doing what young angsty sheep do just to be young angsty sheep.

When it comes to not conforming to the norm though, at least peoples approaches on that have become less brittle and more pragmatic to that in recent years. There are certain things that make sense - heirarchy based on skill, intellect, reflexes, etc. is definitely a good thing for instance particularly when the higher up on the chain someone is the more responsibility they have and the more clarity they need. On the other hand there have been things in the past where people just broke down over nothing more than fear - that's the kind of stuff where I look at the situation and I think "Wow, your generation really dropped the ball on that one" - but, then again, so did so many generations before theirs.

>Dating Scene. There is a woman here; possibly unkempt, definitely intelligent, and possibly interested.

>Treat woman nice

>The Woman responds positively. What's your next move?

>Treat woman badly

>You are trapped in a room with a Slavering Grue...

dang, that brought back memories. But my torch grows dimmer...

Zork zork zork....zo-zork zork.....

Geeky girls tend to have an extra pair of kidneys.

That is not true. I met some very bossy "smart" girls who actually expect more than "other" girls.