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29 Jan 2008, 11:11 pm

I'd have cried, too.


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29 Jan 2008, 11:13 pm

i should say the creepiest thing about the friends was that some of em had GFs... i'm not sayin the GFs had problems with what they were doin... just that i could never do that.


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29 Jan 2008, 11:19 pm

God, are they all like that? :(


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29 Jan 2008, 11:27 pm

Wow! This thread has really taken off finally :lol: . Mikomi, I am perfectly aware that Not all strippers whore themselves to clients. I resent how you falsely accuse me of calling this girl a whore or suggesting that she's slu*ty because in fact she really isnt.What I would be worried about is not that she'd be sleeping around but that she would put up a Lot of barriers to me getting close to her and that there's nothing she'd do just for me that she wouldnt do for other men at the club-except maybe f*****g but even so. I wish I could find the right words but a woman like that who has so many men wanting her and adoring and giving her hansome tips....she'd have a hard time being not only exclusive to her bf but close to him emotionally.
What I didnt like about her was how she's freakin' paranoid about being
"obsessed over" that when I asked her a question about why she was setting her hair
for work the next day when she was going to be going to bed she flipped out
and accused me of suspecting her of lying. She even said that even if I
were to not to ask question like that she was "already creeped out" :roll:.
Because of her profession she has Ridiculously high standards of behaviour for anyone who's going to date her,
and being an aspie and not being good at reading people I honestly feel like I cant really meet her expectations
about how Im supposed to act. This is definitely Not a good match.
In general, I dont really enjoy being around people with big ego's-and that seems to go along with being a stripper.



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30 Jan 2008, 12:05 am

Just the fact that you like her for her and not the fact that she's giving you a lap dance gives you a HUGE advantage over all those clients... and may be precisely the "high" standards she's set...

Can't say for sure (each person is different), but it is a possible case...



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30 Jan 2008, 12:20 pm

ToadOfSteel-thats what one would be inclined to think. I mean that seems like a rational conclusion, but the Truth is a whole different story. Strippers get Soooooooo much attention from so many different men that they cant really focus their own attention and affection on one person. EVEN IF that person happens to be their bf(imagine how much worse it is if she's married :o ).



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30 Jan 2008, 3:34 pm

Mikomi wrote:
You're right, dating this girl is a bad idea. I don't think she's the one with the problem. You're making some grossly inappropriate assumptions based on nothing more than where this girl works. Just because she dances for a living doesn't make her a whore who will sell herself to the highest bidder. Women who dance often deeply appreciate the "nice guy" (read: someone nothing like the patrons of the club) because they encounter a lot of jerks.


What a load of crap.


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went with guy friends. was just too weird to see them all acting like that. and of course they wanted to get me lap dances so they could watch. i just couldn't imagine being like that (how my friends were, how the strippers were)


These guy friends are your 'friends' =) , friendship between the 2 genders is crap , it simply doesn't exist my dear =) ....you think it's friendship but it's something else ...even if you deny this (except for childhood friendship which is much more like brotherhood than friendship).

Ah oh, even if these guys have GFs , males are just polygamous by nature ....even if they deny this. =)



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30 Jan 2008, 3:54 pm

^^^

they were friends as much as in the sense that i actually have friends at all IRL :roll: :roll: :roll:

i understand this aspect of guys... as i've always preferred their company... it's just quite another thing to actually experience it this up close and personal.

wish i were a guy often, many things would have been much easier.


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30 Jan 2008, 4:01 pm

Sedaka wrote:
^^^

they were friends as much as in the sense that i actually have friends at all IRL :roll: :roll: :roll:


Failed to understand the sentence , kindly rephrase it.

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i understand this aspect of guys... as i've always preferred their company... it's just quite another thing to actually experience it this up close and personal.

hmmmm

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wish i were a guy often, many things would have been much easier.


...and you won't suffer from monthly periodic bleeding :D . Anyways, guy' life is not as easy as you think , each gender has its own struggles...so watch out for what you wish ;).



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30 Jan 2008, 4:16 pm

So LePetitPrince, if friendship between the sexs is a load of crap what do you have to say bout so-called "faghags"?
As a straight guy I rather enjoy being around lesbians and there was a time when they comprised a big part of my circle of friends. Being friends with straight women is a Lot trickier. But Ive found that the more things in common you have with women, the more time you spend around them not expecting them to sleep with you the better you get along with them and the more successful you are in romantic relationships with them! A lot of women, well certainly the SMart ones, like men that they can relate to as people-NOT JUST someone who is sexually attractive. You know I will admit that there are some times where I wish I were a woman-they have it SO much better for the 1st 30 years of life. Sedaka, why on earth do you wish you were a guy? BTW LePetitPrince, for just about every rule describing human behaviour there is pretty much always an exception. WTF makes you think that ALL males are polyamorous by nature? What makes you think women dont have those impulses because you know what, they do! If I had more than one gf I would feel very confused and somewhat torn, the former is a state of being I really CANT STAND. When it comes to people I can only focus on one person at a time; I realize most men arent like that but I am certainly Not like most men when it comes to That.
I'd like to add that I have ALWAYS wanted to be a Ram among Sheep-i.e.:the only guy in the company of a group of girls(my age our younger-but I happy to be with women slightly older as long as they're hawt). There was a time 7 years ago when it looked like I was gonna get the chance but one of the girls-a staunch feminist-pretty much turned the other 2 girls against me and pushed me out of their clique :( .



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30 Jan 2008, 4:22 pm

i just meant that these guys weren't actual friend friends of mine. we did a type structured group activity together... but i rarely hung out with them... this was one of those gems.


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30 Jan 2008, 4:24 pm

BTW LePetitPrince, HOW exactly do you define friendship? If you're going to claim that friendship doesnt exist between str8t's of the opposite sex first you need to elaborate on the term itself :wink:



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30 Jan 2008, 4:30 pm

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WTF makes you think that ALL males are polyamorous by nature?


Yes, ALL males are polygamous by nature . We are talking about nature here and not about religious illusionist beliefs or some illusionist western values about relationships.Period.

The fact that humans are dimorphic (males are larger than females) means that human males in prehistory and even in the early known history were at least mildly polygamous.

All dimorphic species in nature are polygamous for one way or another .... there's no exception.



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30 Jan 2008, 4:36 pm

D1nk0 wrote:
BTW LePetitPrince, HOW exactly do you define friendship? If you're going to claim that friendship doesnt exist between str8t's of the opposite sex first you need to elaborate on the term itself :wink:


By you:
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Being friends with straight women is a Lot trickier. But Ive found that the more things in common you have with women, the more time you spend around them not expecting them to sleep with you the better you get along with them and the more successful you are in romantic relationships with them!


So so , is this your definition of 'friendship' between the sexes?......You just said it , this is your goal of your 'friendship' with girls.The end justifies the means, eh?



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30 Jan 2008, 4:48 pm

Not quite LePetitPrince :lol: . There is a friend of mine, we went to elementary school together and I definitely do not want to sleep with her. But I still value her as a friend. You see, love and sex in fact have VERY LITTLE in common with each other. Thats what a lot of NT women dont seem to get :P . It certainly Is possible to have an empathic connection with someone Without wanting to f**k them! That for me was the point of having platonic relationships with women. For the longest time, girls who I met whom there was no interest on either her or my part but I still wanted to hang out and chat with them cuz women are better listeners on average and are also generally more empathic....well, they evidently werent mature enough to get past the sexual tension and so they ultimately broke off the friendship.



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30 Jan 2008, 4:55 pm

LePetitPrince wrote:
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Being friends with straight women is a Lot trickier. But Ive found that the more things in common you have with women, the more time you spend around them not expecting them to sleep with you the better you get along with them and the more successful you are in romantic relationships with them!


So so , is this your definition of 'friendship' between the sexes?......You just said it , this is your goal of your 'friendship' with girls.The end justifies the means, eh?


I think you're reading into this a little too much. Spending time around woman X, who you are NOT in a relationship with (regardless of whether you find her attractive or not) helps one understand how women act and react in given situations. Hanging around women X, Y, and Z give one a view on how several women act (as each woman is unique). Eventually, that allows for the buildup of social skills required, so that when woman S walks into the room, one would know how to act and pursue a romantic relationship.

At least, that's what I understood from Dinko's post...