Ten Politically Incorrect Truths About Human Nature

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31 Jan 2008, 7:57 pm

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That's also why I think the 46 chromosomes in our bodies are the ultimate evil source of all evil in this world. A lot of the evils not caused by sexual competition are caused by more secondary forms of competition that we may have disassociated from the need to mate but they're still there. Religious fanaticism happens for instance because, by the drive of our genes, self-actualization can never truly stop for a lot of people and that very need to have some lofty purpose is I think a much bigger part of why suicide bombers blow themselves up or would much rather believe they're heroes in some great cosmic war of good and evil rather than just face the fact that they're nothing particularly special against 6 billion other people.

How many aspies have you heard of being religious fanatics? Sure, there are religious aspies out ther (such as myself), but there aren't fanatics in the classical sense... this is what I meant by NT's still being bound to said biological tendencies.

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In otherwords is just a nasty reality that we live in, there's not much we can do about it. As people with AS we've done our best to make the most of our potential and what we have but we have to face the facts that the gene pool doesn't give a damn what we think or feel. If we're a result of genetic decay things just are what they are.

The gene pool is no longer the only driving force when it comes to humans. Learned skills (which are independent of the gene pool) are far more important.



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31 Jan 2008, 8:22 pm

remember this is just one person's opinion/theory on psychology.... which is anything but a hard science. Next week someone will have a different 10 truths. -my 2cents



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31 Jan 2008, 10:34 pm

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How many aspies have you heard of being religious fanatics? Sure, there are religious aspies out ther (such as myself), but there aren't fanatics in the classical sense... this is what I meant by NT's still being bound to said biological tendencies.


Isaac Newton. The man was an absolute nutjob when it came to religion. I remember reading somewhere that he wrote more about theology than he did about science, and the works are preserved but not circulated. They're... nutty. :lol:

On the other hand I laughed my ass off reading that article. And I agree, blue eyed blonds are nice but give me a green eyed redhead any day... WOOF!! ! :twisted:


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31 Jan 2008, 10:42 pm

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How many aspies have you heard of being religious fanatics? Sure, there are religious aspies out ther (such as myself), but there aren't fanatics in the classical sense... this is what I meant by NT's still being bound to said biological tendencies.


Isaac Newton. The man was an absolute nutjob when it came to religion. I remember reading somewhere that he wrote more about theology than he did about science, and the works are preserved but not circulated. They're... nutty. :lol:

On the other hand I laughed my ass off reading that article. And I agree, blue eyed blonds are nice but give me a green eyed redhead any day... WOOF!! ! :twisted:


I wouldn't call that nutty though, if you are of any intellectual bent and also religious... much of your thoughts are going to also go towards theology too. It envelops everything around you, you can't really get away from thinking about it.

Any scientist that actually believes in God is going to have some interesting ideas on the subject. And they may not be 'mainstream' the unconventional thinking of scientists tends to blend into religious matters too... they don't have to accept everything that is presented to them about religion.


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31 Jan 2008, 11:06 pm

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How many aspies have you heard of being religious fanatics? Sure, there are religious aspies out ther (such as myself), but there aren't fanatics in the classical sense... this is what I meant by NT's still being bound to said biological tendencies.


Still though, genes and biology do rule the world. I'd really think that two aspies could get together, pool their autism genes, and have an even more functional kid. I know people keep talking about the here and now in our reality as a temporary bottleneck that will iron itself out, I'm not quite as optimistic - the more I look at what happens from reproduction and byproducts the more I understand why NTs do what they do, its like their natural instincts in understanding the basal realities of that are much more in tact and they just fly with it, we come in as fully developed humans but with all kinds of glitches that make it very easy for us to get bucked (well, some aspies are naturally physical alpha but I still think they're more the exception than the norm).

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The gene pool is no longer the only driving force when it comes to humans. Learned skills (which are independent of the gene pool) are far more important.


As much as I hate it though they still have the final say, no matter what our preferences or society becomes. And yeah, natural law is failing us - badly, but as long as we have these 46 genes we're anchored to and owned by it to a degree.

I could be wrong, I'd REALLY like to be. I guess I'll just have to watch the developments that happen in the next 20 or 30 years, the autistic spectrum finally has enough of a spotlight for this to really be figured out and put to rest.



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31 Jan 2008, 11:08 pm

Ah... I thought by saying "nutty" the implication was clear. Apparently the content of those religious writings is soooo far off the beaten track they really don't want Ol' Isaac's reputation dinged by them. I am beating my head trying to remember if this was an article or from the early part of the recent biography of him.


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01 Feb 2008, 1:02 am

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I find the use of the word 'truths' in the title rather ludicrous. I think 'overblown generalizations based on extremely limited research into a very narrow social grouping' might have been slightly more appropriate, albeit still a weak introduction to the ensuing babble.


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01 Feb 2008, 3:34 am

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The thing about suicide bombers is pretty suspect because anyone who claims to have studied the psychology and history for suicide bomber would know that al qaeda and other Islamist groups are greatly influenced by the *Hindu* nationalist group LITE (Tamil tigers) in Sri Lanka. They copied their techniques down to the letter. LITE had used subside belt long before they were used in the middle east. they also did suicide .


Maybe it is a little, but there is some truth in it. Any society can develop kamikaze soldiers. It is weapon that works, and it cannot be stolen by the enemy.

In wartime, If you traded 1 war-plane for 6 you would probably win a war. So the same would apply to any kamikaze unit. Religion and ignorance plays a big part in the kamikaze ideology.

One thing that was correct was that most suicide bomber was young single males. Mother Nature has decided that they probably have less use to society.



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01 Feb 2008, 9:32 am

Was it the same thing in Japan during WWII? I know there was the religious fervor involved with that, but I was also under the impression that most of those guys had wives and/or girlfriends to come home to after the war...



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01 Feb 2008, 1:09 pm

The actual kamikaze's were a different motivation.... Japan was losing the war and needed a weapon cheap enough to expend that was deadly enough to threaten US warships. We were sinking their ships to fast and they couldn't effectively engage us "ship to ship". Air power was defined in World War 2 as being vital to success. Just as in some future war, control of orbital space and the ability to "shoot down" into the gravity well will win a war. I just wish I thought we'd be the ones with that control As it is, I'm not betting on it....


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01 Feb 2008, 4:46 pm

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In otherwords is just a nasty reality that we live in, there's not much we can do about it. As people with AS we've done our best to make the most of our potential and what we have but we have to face the facts that the gene pool doesn't give a damn what we think or feel. If we're a result of genetic decay things just are what they are.