Competition

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*sigh* I try to have hope, but it just seems my f$%#ed up nature screws me over every time. I try to improve on my past mistakes, but it's hard when I'm so damn different that I don't even know what those are.

I chalk the anger up to hormones though, they're driving me crazy.

Well, I imagine things will get better in college. I don't know but a lot of girls are out there, rejections suck but dwelling on it isn't very productive.

True, but denying what you very well feel at the time can be even less productive. Good is Evil, Evil is good. Hate is Love, Love is Hate. What a stupid cycle -.-

I see your point.

I guess that's why I try to have a lot of female acquaintances. If one doesn't work out I try my luck on someone else. It sounds weird I know but really I haven't a clue of what I'm doing.

Tip is none of guys do .

Thats why to this day I cannot stand "locker room talk" its all a bunch of BS.

No guy knows what hes doing.


After all these women and years the most I can say is I know what I'm NOT doing.

I'm wondering when the right time is to make a move. If I miss a chance, then some other might have his, is it too early, so confused!

Boggles the mind But, I guess there is no "right time." If you feel she likes you, and you like her, then anytime is the right moment. But of course, try to make it special

Man just ask her out on a date, not be your girlfriend. A date is a casual way that shows your interested in her and want to get to know her better. If she's interested in you, she'll say yes.

Aaaaagh, I know what you mean. There's a club I go to. Anytime I see a pretty girl there, just as soon as I get the courage to actually walk over and say something, some other guy always starts talking to her first. DX I hate competition...I hate gender roles, hate that guys have to be the ones to approach.

I know what you mean :/ Revolution!! This needs to change

^^ the other way around won't be in your favor in you are an omega/beta male , letting girls to approach first will lead to the same natural selection rules that are already applied.

Let's face the truth guys , we are under the mercy of the girls' choice , this is a basic nature and there's no way to change it unless inf your want to change your society into an arrangedmarriage-based society or to a ret*d masculine dominated society like the fanatic Islamic societies and treat women as a furniture.

As long that you live in a free society where dating is free then you'll still be under the mercy of serial monogamy rules==> the mercy of women's choice.

In serial monogamy system , guys ask out girls , the girl keeps rejecting guys till she is asked by the most 'suitable' guy.

So serial monogamy rules are very similar to the natural polygamy rules (not the islamic polygamy!): Females are the main players of the natural selection --> females are the ones who pick the males that most "fit" them (most fit them = that can provide best genes and security).

Nagging, whining , and revolutions will solve nothing ......if you are naturally an omega/beta guy then the best thing you can do is improving yourself , by improving yourself you became a better competitor and you increase somehow your chances to get a girl.


For a better help ,note that there are basically FOUR types of Alpha males in the current human society:

-The Knight (Strength): These are basically the pure natural alphas , the men with high level of Testosterone , the strong, tall , determinant , confident , masculine and handsome men. If you are not already one of those , it will be almost impossible to become one. A strong sport man who can achieve big wins can becomes a King/Knight (ie: the best footballers).This type of alpha might fade with age or can transform to the King type


-The King (Wealth/Social Power): The Kings are the successful men who can turn their success into great wealth and social power, this type of Alpha requires also some basic natural alpha traits found in the Knight-type like confidence and determination (ie.CEOs, great businessmen...etc) ...good physical traits might help too , it also requires mainly traits such as leadership, common sense, courage and good social skills. It is not impossible for Aspies to be one of those but keep in mind that without good-developed natural skills such as social skills and leadership that won't be easy at all.


-The Magician (High Intelligence): Naturally,this is the least attractive Alpha type to most females but they are alphas nonetheless and can attract 10% of females at least. The Magicians are the men who can achieve great things using their high intelligence ,education , great knowledge or great wisdom , the requirement for this type is one : High IQ/Intelligence or at least 1 useful savant skill(rare cases). The Magician doesn't need to be physically strong, confident or leader or any of that sort ....he just needs to be very smart in his field he works in. A Magician who can turns his achievements to success and wealth can becomes a Magician-King (ie. Bill Gates). Aspies with high intelligence should choose this path to Alphahood but if you don't naturally have a very high IQ (above 130)/intelligence or at least 1 useful savant skill this would be almost impossible.

(Even a physically handicapped very genius man such as Steven hawking can be considered as a Magician alpha because his natural high intelligence compensates all the other bad genes ..but of course this case is very very exceptional.)


- The Bard (Talent/Fame): The Bards are the people who get fame through their high talents ie: good singers, cool hardrockers,Hollywood actors, good musicians, excellent painters...

The Bards are the MOST attractive Alpha-type to females nowadays , they can harvest thousands of females' hearts.
Since fame brings wealth and since fame requires sometimes attractive looks then Bards are usually in combo forms mostly as Bard/King or sometimes in Bard/King/Knight , Bard/King/Magician exist but are rare cases (ie. like the savant pianist kids that can even compete adult pianists....will be Bard/King/Magician when they become adults).
Aspie can becomes a bard ....but of course he needs to have great talents.


There are the same types of alphas among females ....but here we are talking about competition between males which is much rougher than the competition between females (competition between females is caused by the artificial monogamous marriage system).

I think a lot of problems with relationships and aspies is that they become almost obsessed with finding a mate.

Shifting your focus off getting a b/gf helps amazingly.....................it worked for me.

People tend to notice you if you're not slobbering over every female you meet.

If you know who you are, have a rough idea where you're going in life, and you actually LIKE yourself and can make yourself happy, then you're perfect relationship material. Hey, you might still have some hang-ups, but if you can admit those are problems, all the better.


That's what I think anyways, it worked for me.

Figured I'd jump into the fray...

I don't date. I just don't. The entire concept itself makes no sense to me. You have no clue who this person even IS, yet you want to engage in a relationship with them? No thanks. I'm also perfectly well aware that the rest of society is in stark disagreement with me Seeing as this is a socially defined construct, I'm pretty much screwed. Heck, I'd only consider initiating a relationship with someone I had already known for a long time -- which is also apparently a big no-no Go figure. Not to mention the whole concept that "flirting" has no serious meaning... huh? That makes no logical sense. Competition for a woman? I guess I don't have the Darwinian instinct in terms of dating either. In short, my normal approach is useless here. (Props to those who catch the reference).

But hey! I'm actually rather positive about it! I constantly hear of all these problems others have with their relationships. I never have to deal with that. As well, I already know that I'm really not the right person for dating. For all that I DON'T know, I DO know one thing: a relationship takes lots of energy to create and sustain. I simply cannot divert my energy from my research and into a woman; I could have a major breakthrough, and she would be more concerned that I'm paying all my attention to her. I just can't do that. Think of it as a way of being nice, stopping a problem before it can even get started. Not engaging in a relationship because you already know that she'll just end up hurt.

And to the nay-sayers that say females don't chase the males... I've been asked multiple times. I just do my best to say no politely, due to the reasons previously specified.

In the end though, I learned that if you play by your rules, you win, someone else's you lose,.
Doesn't make sense, does playing by their rules make any more sense.

I don't know where got the idea that dating someone means your in a relationship with them. Last I checked, dating is a casual way for two people that like each other to go out and get to know each other. Some people stay in the dating process for months before a full on commitment is made. Other times, no commitment is made since through the course of dating you find your not compatiable or don't like the person enough to be in a relationship with them.