All women are demons from Hell that like to mess with men.

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I agree; a sizable portion do for a large part of their interactions with males.

Let's add some to your list from my experiences:

• The woman who sees how long you'll stay interested to increase her self-esteem. I was originally oblivious that she was doing this and just kept proceeding; this went to her head in a major way.
• The woman who wants to get dinner with you but then constantly reschedules

Amen.

Yea, I ought have put 'A good majority' before women

And that first set sounds like those female items, as they are not women, on Sex and the City. One episode and I wanted to barf.

I'm wondering how much of this stupidity is women and how much of it is people and then, if it is just people in general, then is it just NT people in general? I'm personally hoping for a saner class of women when it comes to aspie women. This would be my last hope, I think. Not that I think women are crazier than men on average necessarily, NT or AS, just that men's insanity is not my concern in the same way as a heterosexual male.

-Frank

I think woman like men hanging off them for a self esteem thing.

If you are looking for a serious relationship, only start to considerate after you get to know the lady better.

Here's a fundamental question which Ive been unable to answer myself or get an answer: WHY, yes Why do women play all these social/emotional/mind games? Especially the young ones Is it because they havent figured out what they want? Is it cuz they often have conflicting impulses and feelings and they're trying not to be too blunt with people? Perhaps a better question is why are women so incredibly dishonest and disingenuous when it comes to relationships..............

Hey Ken, mayyyybe stop wishing eternal torment on people that do something that's mildly annoying, like this woman doing this or the time you said everyone that works at Yahoo should burn in hell because they accidentally deleted your personals ad. You take little things way too seriously. Simmer down.

Thats another thing that irritates the sh1t out of me about most women(NTs especially): they never take anything seriously

it almost begs the question, if not all women do this, why are men attracted to women who do this?

I mean, aren't the men somewhat responsible for whom they chose to have play with their heads?

in the last 30 years women have been taught to be selective of what men they chose, how to spot the bullies, the beaters, the emotional vampires. Why aren't men more aware of whom they are choosing as potential partners?

It just seems to make sense that men are just as responsible for whom they associate with as women. Or am I way out of line, here?

Merle

No Merle, you are not. IMO Men & women are equally responsible for the miseries of the human race. Had Eve not eaten that piece of fruit and had Adam not tried some ...





*this biblical reference is intended as allegory*

Not at all. Bear in mind that there is Always going to be an exception to every rule you make about human behaviour; but if More than half of one sex behaves a certain way-ESPECIALLY within a certain age range-it really begs the question in my mind as to what their motives are for doing what they do.I certainly would NEVER associate with a woman who I KNEW was manipulative and dishonest! But you see, the very nature of dishonest people is that they are very good at fooling those they meet for the first time about their true nature. There certainly ARE man who are good at decieving women, but even if I had those intentions I personaly Wouldnt get very far with it cuz I am a VERY bad liar(or so Im told). Lying is very much a social skill, to be good at it you have to *read* people in order to determine what they're likely to believe and not to believe.You see-one of the most OBVIOUS behavioral differences between the sexs that Ive noticed first hand is that MOST women are FAR less direct than men; and that certainly DOES include women with aggressive impulses.Aggression in women is VERY REAL but its rarely direct and seldom physical(towards men), so it often goes undetected. Am I making any sense Merle?

Not all women want to mess with men.

I don't.

Unless they're here to fix my heater or something, I don't even really want to talk to them at all.

Don't worry. With your charming attitude, you'll win some lucky lady over soon.

You talkin to me?

I think that KenM clearly did not pick up on the clues that this girl was being dishonest and stringing him along. I once read a distrubing article which claimed that Many aspie/autistic women have been Date Raped because they didnt recognize the danger signs. I have no doubt that men who perpetrate such acts choose women who seem naive and clueless because they are easy prey. From now on though, if I hear a woman here whining about men and how men are so rotten-because they were mistreated by one I will promptly blame the Victim .

Despite popular opinion, there actually are all kinds of women out there:

Some are honest. Some are not.

Some like nice guys. Some prefer douchebags.

Some enjoy playing mind games. Some don't even know how to play mind games.

One can take these things into consideration when deciding who to date. There are ways to filter out the ones you want to avoid before you get seriously involved with them. There are ways to test a person's honesty and reaction to honesty.

You can find out if they really like nice guys by asking about previous boyfriends, crushes, and guys they find attractive. For example, you could ask, "If you could date any famous guy, who would it be?" That can give you an idea of her type.

Girls who like to play mind games often do so with their friends and family as well as their boyfriends - this tends to be the way they interact with people in general. If you observe the way the girl interacts with other people, you may get a sense of whether or not she is like this.

It's a matter of learning how to find and attract the kind of girls you want to spend time with, while learning how to avoid the ones who are dishonest, etc.

And by the way, getting hurt and rejected and confused is always part of the dating experience. Nice, honest girls who like nice guys can hurt you and confuse you too - it's the nature of the situation.

oh! that myth from Genesis is something to break my heart with
woman as a cruel temptress is an image I would like to part with
tell it to a boy, before he is five,
he'll be blaming women for the rest of his life.
Oh that myth from Genesis is something to break my heart with!

Allagory or not, it sets up the idea that women are somehow the enemy, or the friend of an enemy (the devil). Guess it shows who made up the religion in the first place.

Merle

Ok, I think I must be missing something here (quite likely, so I apologise in advance). She told you after the first date that she just wanted to be friends. How is that playing games? if anything, you're the one who's not being totally honest (with her or yourself)- she thinks of you as a friend. You still think of her as a potential love interest. It's not going to happen. Either remain 'friends', or move on, but don't blame her just because she doesn't fancy you back.