coming to terms with being alone

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19 Aug 2008, 11:11 am

I never could come to terms with being alone for the rest of my life I'm just so glad that I am able to maintain a reasonably healthy relationship, it's not perfect I have AS but I know how difficult it is to find someone who can cope with people like us.

The saddest thing is the way we're often treated (like we're monsters or something) it couldn't be further from the truth a lot of AS people are as careing, loving, sensitive, creative and interesting people you could ever wish to meet.


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19 Aug 2008, 1:19 pm

No_YOU_get_over_it wrote:
And those of us who do* so aren't very open-minded about getting closer to men who refuse to shower, wear deodorant etc. Most men THINK they're "good enough" hygiene-wise, but even NT men screw up royally in this area.


I hate when NTs become lazy because they have it so good. And then they come to the conclusion that I am not an NT, because I have hidden most of my aspie traits, out of desperateness.



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19 Aug 2008, 1:39 pm

@ Chav,

I hate to think you have to hide the AS side of yourself. Hygiene and social skills are great to develop, but having busted my glutes to master those skills, I feel I've already made huge accommodations for "NT handicaps." It gets my goat that NTs expect us to modify/tone down AS aspects that are just different, not offensive.


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19 Aug 2008, 1:56 pm

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Ever wonder why women are attracted to married men? Good credit. They have someone vouching for them. And just like banks treat people with no credit history worse than people with bad credit, I would say that even having a string of exes who hate you is better credit than no previous girlfriends at all.


Yeah, well where does that leave someone who's well into their thirties and has never had a girlfriend? Branded UNSAFE for no good reason, all because of irrational female prejudices. Those b*****s that rejected me when I was younger knew full well that would lead to women avoiding me in the future. What the hell do we do about that?


From the disrespectful way you talk about women, it sounds like a good reason to me.

@NYGOI:
yes, there are some degree of gender issues going on there, but I think in my age bracket there are a small but significant subset of men who are willing to be (even want to be) partners rather than pets. There are good men out there.
I can't seem to maintain friendships even with other women, though, so as far as mates go I would probably be limited to some jerk who can't get anyone else to put up with him. And I'd rather be single.



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19 Aug 2008, 2:21 pm

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I think in my age bracket there are a small but significant subset of men who are willing to be (even want to be) partners rather than pets. There are good men out there.


For sure. I'm only a few years older than you are ;) so I do see those guys. Their ideas of "partner", though, still don't seem to include being a haven and providing comfort to the degree they expect the woman to do so. I get the impression they're up for 30/70, which they'll experience as 60/40. Am I being too picky about this? Should I be giving them more credit for trying? OTOH I've occasionally met men a decade my senior who describe marriages that truly sound 60/40.


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I can't seem to maintain friendships even with other women, though, so as far as mates go I would probably be limited to some jerk who can't get anyone else to put up with him. And I'd rather be single.


LOL I hear you. I'm at the point where I no longer accept "fault" for not getting on w/ other women, though. I started setting boundaries and paying attention to what's enjoyable and healthy for me, so right now I have almost no authentic interpersonal contact. One sister, a great aunt. (There are good people I know, who are happy to hear from me, but these days I have a hard time talking most of the time.)

What scares me more than the "some jerk" option is the ... ugh I'm shuddering. The really decent but super-bland NT conservative guy who's got it made career- and material-wise and wants a family to frost the cake. Since I 'found my style' I seem to attract them in hordes. They seem to dig the integrated foreigner bit as well, as though that would spice up their lives without challenging it too much.


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19 Aug 2008, 3:01 pm

i will never come to terms with it, i'm always going to keep trying......dieing alone is a big big fear for me.x



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20 Aug 2008, 7:49 am

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i will never come to terms with it, i'm always going to keep trying......dieing alone is a big big fear for me.x


Hmm, dying alone sounds comforting to me, but it doesn't include growing old alone. More like off trail in the Swiss Alps during a storm. Exhaustion + alcohol + snowbank. If I knew how to never be found, or at least to prevent ID, that would be my ideal way to go.


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20 Aug 2008, 8:22 am

No_YOU_get_over_it wrote:
@ Chav,

I hate to think you have to hide the AS side of yourself. Hygiene and social skills are great to develop, but having busted my glutes to master those skills, I feel I've already made huge accommodations for "NT handicaps." It gets my goat that NTs expect us to modify/tone down AS aspects that are just different, not offensive.


I don't mind advice from NT for change, but it should not be a moral obligation. Tact would never be needed in a world where no one bad-mind each other.



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20 Aug 2008, 2:17 pm

No_YOU_get_over_it wrote:
( My gourd, I really did everything in my power to be the best bloody client, and still got kicked in the teeth.)


I'm not sure if it was legal for them to just abandon you without contact but it seems unethical. They should have at least hooked you up with someone/somewhere else!

BPalmer: Not to butt in but since you posted it publicly I will ask: How do you know "those b*****s knew" the effect their rejection would have on you years later? Maybe they were just ignorant kids. Or ignorant full stop. A lot of people do what they want without knowing how it might affect someone else let alone decades later. Unless they were ridiculing you or something which isn't cool.



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21 Aug 2008, 4:24 am

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How do you know "those b*****s knew" the effect their rejection would have on you years later? Maybe they were just ignorant kids. Or ignorant full stop. A lot of people do what they want without knowing how it might affect someone else let alone decades later.

They were socially aware enough. They would've been told to steer clear of any guy who hadn't ever had a relationship by a certain age. Over the years they would've been given advice by their friends, parents, etc - some of which makes sense, alongside some absolute rot. Now, no-one ever set me up with anyone, or said "See that girl over there? I think she likes you." No, they wrote me off as Not Relationship Material, and now that's true, eh?



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21 Aug 2008, 4:30 am

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i will never come to terms with it, i'm always going to keep trying......dieing alone is a big big fear for me.x


Good for you. Best of Luck.



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21 Aug 2008, 10:16 am

would it be REALLY controversial to hypothesize that people who say that they're really happy about being alone forever are either a. lieing b. given up on life? i guess in a few cases, some people develop and grow up without any desires for 1. sexual activity 2. affection 3. companionship or a mixture of any of the 3, and in that case, they probably will truly be ok with never dating/marrying etc.

this topic just really interests me.x



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21 Aug 2008, 2:08 pm

I want to accept it, as I'll always be alone it seems. But for some reason this fantasy that I'll be with someone one day persists. :x

Get out of my head stupid fantasy! And stop giving me false hope!! :x


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21 Aug 2008, 4:17 pm

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I want to accept it, as I'll always be alone it seems. But for some reason this fantasy that I'll be with someone one day persists. :x

Get out of my head stupid fantasy! And stop giving me false hope!! :x

I know exactly how you feel.

EAT SH** AND DIE, YOU STUPID ILLOGICAL FANTASY!! :evil:



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21 Aug 2008, 5:14 pm

GO TO HELL USELESS FANTASY!! !! ! :evil:

Hey, this is strangely therapeutic. I'm feeling better. :lol:

*goes inside of my own head, finds fantasy, flips it the finger, kicks it in the balls, and gets in its face and screams obscenities as it writhes in pain until other members somehow get inside my head and try to pull me away*


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21 Aug 2008, 6:04 pm

Alone is so dull and meaningless. It's time for a change. You know guys need to put a nice smile on your face and embrace the day. Don't be so serious. Be confident, stop obsessing that your special interest is the best thing in the world and that everything else comes second to it. Loosen up. :lol: