WHAT tanks your relationships?

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lotusblossom
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16 Sep 2008, 5:13 pm

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Well you know, I'm sure kids could put a lot of guys off, but that just means then, would you rather stay with someone who wants to keep your kids at arms' length?


I think its only safe to keep a 6 year old with a bread knife at arms length lol :lol:

actually , I think I am far more off putting than my kids.

I seem to make people hate me but I am not able to do the things that stops it.

I think maybe I give people the brush off with out meaning too or I am just really annoying.

People rarely give honest feedback do they :? Its always "its me not you" or "you are an evil b****" neither of which tells you what to do right :?



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16 Sep 2008, 5:43 pm

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Good lord, those are all my last boyfriend.

I am no longer needy and don't wait on reactions, but I have had a lot of help :-)

PS: What a beautiful set of tanks, those, Prince!


It's amazing what becoming older does for one's wisdom eh? I have laser like insight into these things, I should write a book or something... :P



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16 Sep 2008, 6:18 pm

Their unwillingness to compromise on certain things.


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16 Sep 2008, 9:06 pm

I strongly suspect that it could be any number of issues, but perhaps at the heart of it all is a failure on BOT parties sides to adapt and make allowances.

The relationships that do work, both people need to be able to compromise

e.g My AS husband HATES with a passion our local shopping mall.. all the people .. the backgorund noise.. the visual distractions, combined with being jostled around if it's busy are often just too much for him to cope with. Add that to two small children who are not always on their best behaviour and it can make for a very challenging outing.

However..... our kids love to go there, especially our child with ASD, he has the opposite reaction to the background noise etc.. he loves it and finds it comforting. He is the kind of kid that likes music on FULL volume and will listen to the TV when it is on no channel at all and producing white noise.
So over the years my hubby has persisted with going in small doses ( if he is not having a bad day ) and now finds he can tolerate it for long enough for us to run errands and for the kids to have a Noodle lunch there ( one of the few places my little one will eat out at ). He starts to hum if he finds the noise gets too much.
The mall used to send him into a full blown panic attack.. and he could feel himself getting more and more agitated.. flapping and moving on the spot.. humming .. and finally just having to leave.

Intially I had to make the adaptation for him .. either going to different places that were not so stressful .. or making the trips super short , getting the noodles to go, or just meeting him elsewhere. Quite frankly it used to make me upset, I felt restricted in what I could/could not do. But I did recognise that for him it was very difficult.
Over time now we can both go and it is now ok for both of us .. because we have both learned to compromise on the issue.
Navigating relationships is interesting .. and working out how compromises can be made and things can be kept interesting is part of the challenge.

It is not about what is going wrong .. but how you can both make things RIGHT, problem solving .. not focusing just on the problems and then leaving it at that. If a relationship is worth having , it is worth making an effort for.



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17 Sep 2008, 7:38 am

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JohnHopkins wrote:
Well you know, I'm sure kids could put a lot of guys off, but that just means then, would you rather stay with someone who wants to keep your kids at arms' length?


I think its only safe to keep a 6 year old with a bread knife at arms length lol :lol:

actually , I think I am far more off putting than my kids.

I seem to make people hate me but I am not able to do the things that stops it.

I think maybe I give people the brush off with out meaning too or I am just really annoying.

People rarely give honest feedback do they :? Its always "its me not you" or "you are an evil b****" neither of which tells you what to do right :?


I don't know. You have a lot of features that I personally find very attractive but Britain has become highly depoliticised since our politics became America's politics in a bullshitty kinda way, I know someone who refuses to even discuss politics at all. And you have strong viewpoints on that.

Actually, maybe that's it. Too many guys these days are afraid to be challenged by their lady, whereas that's exactly what I'd want.



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17 Sep 2008, 10:32 am

JohnHopkins wrote:
lotusblossom wrote:
JohnHopkins wrote:
Well you know, I'm sure kids could put a lot of guys off, but that just means then, would you rather stay with someone who wants to keep your kids at arms' length?


I think its only safe to keep a 6 year old with a bread knife at arms length lol :lol:

actually , I think I am far more off putting than my kids.

I seem to make people hate me but I am not able to do the things that stops it.

I think maybe I give people the brush off with out meaning too or I am just really annoying.

People rarely give honest feedback do they :? Its always "its me not you" or "you are an evil b****" neither of which tells you what to do right :?


I don't know. You have a lot of features that I personally find very attractive but Britain has become highly depoliticised since our politics became America's politics in a bullshitty kinda way, I know someone who refuses to even discuss politics at all. And you have strong viewpoints on that.

Actually, maybe that's it. Too many guys these days are afraid to be challenged by their lady, whereas that's exactly what I'd want.


I went to political groups a few years ago but I didnt pull there either.

"Challenging" is probably the key word though as Ive not been known for humering people or keeping my mouth shut.



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17 Sep 2008, 2:32 pm

A lack of understanding and communication.


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17 Sep 2008, 2:51 pm

Communication, and trust.


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17 Sep 2008, 4:17 pm

Well, my first girlfriend (when I think back 35 years ago) was probably an Aspie, too. We met because she sent me a note through a mutual friend. Not that strange in 8th grade - but we rarely talked to each other in the year we went together. Instead, we wrote letters (several each week) & met to go walking, usually ending up in a park where we would hold hands (for hours) & eventually kiss. Neither of our families knew about us & she suddenly stopped seeing me not long after we started 10th grade (broke up with me in a letter.)

So that relationship tanked because neither one of us knew how to interact with people.

With my second girlfriend, our relationship tanked because we were just completely incompatible. She was an actress & very outgoing. I didn't know I had AS, but I knew I had different thought processes, a different way of dealing with emotions & REAL issues with social situations. She would take me to parties & not understand why I would completely shut down. Plus, she seemed completely unable to accept that I might feel things differently from everybody else. But the thing that put the nail in the coffin (so to speak), was that I was perfectly content to hold her & kiss her (we were both 17 at the time) & she was dismayed that I hadn't even tried to get to second base - and there I was, waiting for her to make the first move! So, she just informed me that she was going to start seeing another guy (who was gay - even though she swears to this day that she didn't know) and that was that.

My third girlfriend (don't worry, this doesn't go on much longer) and I had a really good relationship the entire time we were together (about a year.) She knew I was different, but totally accepted it. If she hadn't been two and a half years younger than me (I was eighteen), we probably would have stayed together. But to her credit, she realized that she needed time to figure out who she was, instead of being identified in terms of her older boyfriend (especially since I DIDN'T know who I was.)

I don't count that as a "tank" - just bad timing.

My last girlfriend (for about 2 1/2 years in college) I think might have wanted me to just straighten myself out. We talked about my social difficulties & she seemed to be of the opinion that I should "snap out of it." She sort of had a life in addition to our relationship. I kept asking her to maybe take me into her social circle a bit and help me learn to interact - but that is something she was absolutely unwilling to do. So I started obsessing about her other life & got pretty jealous - that was the beginning of my first major meltdown. What a turnoff! I can't blame her for not wanting to be around me.

Tanked because of my poor social skills & inability to control my emotions.

I can't stress enough that these girls were all very sweet, good people (especially GF #3, with whom I've recently reconnected - and we're becoming friends again.) None of us had any idea about the autism spectrum - let alone AS. They were just as confused as me.

Now I'm starting to think about the possibility of me in another relationship (after 27 years.) I've got a handle on the basic social skills (I can even survive at a party - for about an hour) - so my big goal is to learn to *gradually* open up emotionally to another person.

Without a doubt, my difficulty in moderating my emotions has been the greatest impediment to forming close relationships.



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17 Sep 2008, 9:47 pm

My boyfriends broke up with me because I didn't express my feelings, like a girl ought to. :*( It's been very hard for me to deal with. Other than that, I thought those relationships were great, but then, suddenly what they perceive as lack of emotion makes for a good point to break up with me. It's really starting to kill me inside.



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18 Sep 2008, 3:44 am

Does any relationship that ends (other than in death of one or both persons) fall into category of "failure" ? These may have been "successful" for many years, but eventually did end. I don't attribute causation for such conclusions to my particular personality or dx profile-plenty of "NT" folks have relationships that don't last "forever", either.

My 8+ yr. LTR (with ex-husband) ended because he decided that he did want kids-and I did not change my mind, he knew I never wanted them, so he left me for someone else.
My 4+ yr. LTR (with ex-fiancee) ended because he thought he could deal with me, but after awhile he was unfulfilled: he's outgoing, athletic, social person & I am not-so he left me for another woman (one more similar to him and his interests).
Now trying to figure out what (who) might be next relationship, nothing yet on the horizon...


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18 Sep 2008, 4:21 am

Belfast that is a really positive way to view things.. good on you! :D



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18 Sep 2008, 9:47 am

Belfast wrote:
Does any relationship that ends (other than in death of one or both persons) fall into category of "failure" ? These may have been "successful" for many years, but eventually did end. I don't attribute causation for such conclusions to my particular personality or dx profile-plenty of "NT" folks have relationships that don't last "forever", either.

My 8+ yr. LTR (with ex-husband) ended because he decided that he did want kids-and I did not change my mind, he knew I never wanted them, so he left me for someone else.
My 4+ yr. LTR (with ex-fiancee) ended because he thought he could deal with me, but after awhile he was unfulfilled: he's outgoing, athletic, social person & I am not-so he left me for another woman (one more similar to him and his interests).
Now trying to figure out what (who) might be next relationship, nothing yet on the horizon...


Excellent point, Belfast... good reminder that our end-game assessments often devalue what we have experienced.


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