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As are mine.



Take your own advice, the fact that your ideas do not correlate to my existence says that your idea's are only true for yourself and others like you, if your ideas do not work for me or a sparse amount of others than they are not de facto true.



So morals and honor are neglible? Ha, you shouldn't expect people to treat you respectfully if you believe that, "do unto others as they do unto you", treat the just with respect and the criminal with contempt.



I was extending it to being humanistic, but yes I was merciful, and now I am not.



What is "approachable"?



Again you should take your own medicine.



Why would I want to be accepted by criminals?



Sorry but I'd rather not be a charlatan.



Society: You are an omega, reason given, because we said so.

Moros: HA, futile.

I don't adapt to ridiculousness.



Again take your own medicine.



I don't dress like trash, I actually dress nice, however most women would rather go out with "trashy" guys as you say, well unless you're an executive.



You humans are so funny, always contradicting yourselves. "Do as I say, not what I do".



"My" solipsism is only matched by your own, anywho humans should act up to the standards they set for themselves, unfortunately they don't.



*Yawn*



You should learn to take your own medicine.



I rate society by how they conform to their own norms, which they don't.



You've convinced me, I'll end myself *sarcasm*.



Uh ohs, spagetti-ohs.



Why is the pot calling me black.



You and everyone else are just as "rigid" and "judgmental" as myself, as for "contempt" I only hate those that wish me harm, I do unto others as they do unto me, unlike you who obviously does unto others that which suits your desires. As for why I'm alone, you can rationalize and demonize all you want, I can admit when I'm wrong but I doubt you can, infact I've gone over countless changes throughout my entire lifetime, can you say the same?



And from your perspective, nothing matters other than yourself.



I am cold, I never made any statement to the contrary, I care for those that care about me, and I'm compassionate for the weak, just and honorable. What are you? A flake, you demonize the victim, justify the murderer, laugh in the face of justice. Having a creature such as yourself call me a monster means nothing, when you yourself are 10x the monster I'll ever be.



You first.

Ignoring someone has nothing to do with morality, and the concept of "honor" is an artificial social construct.


Your loss.


Able to be approached. While you physically may be approachable, if you display a cold, condescending, or hostile attitude, then very few people will even want to approach you.


When have I ever stated that my way is the only way? I have, on many occasions (and not just in this thread) acknowledged the validity of other points of view.


What criminals? Do you live in a prison?


Of course ... you would not want to be a hypocrite just to have friends.


You are so funny!


Again, you don't know what you're talking about.


I don't dress like trash, I actually dress nice, however most women would rather go out with "trashy" guys as you say, well unless you're an executive.[/quote]
Then you're trying to attract the wrong kind of woman.


You are human. You display animosity. Animosity is natural in humans.


I reall think that you do not understand the concept. I acknowledge other points of view as equally valid as my own.


You should learn a wider vocabulary.


Well, DUH! Hypocrisy is part of the human condition, just as much as animosity. Didn't you get the memo?


You're hilarious!


Please cite the relevant data.


I'm 51 years old. I've been a seminarian, a father, and a husband. I'm a military veteran and an electrical engineer. I've gone to college, joined the Freemasons and the Boy Scouts, and taken part in combat operations in eastern Africa and the Middle East. I've been elected as an elder of a Presbyterian church, and come out of it with contempt for both politics and religion. I've competed in triathlons and taken part in desert suvival programs. I'm a published author, a SAG member, and have been a back-up vocalist for recording artists. I've set up a crisis hot-line, several emergency communications networks, and I've lost count of the number of CCTV surveillance systems I've designed and installed for private, commercial and governmental concerns. The U.S. Navy has been using one of my SATCOM programs for 15 years, and 3 midwestern colleges still use the same Internet backbones that I designed and installed back in the 1980s.

I can Handle a blowout; Drive on ice and snow; Check and understand automotive diagnostics trouble codes; Replace a fan belt; Wax a car; Drive an off-road vehicle while under fire; Use a stick welder; Hitch up a trailer; and Jump start a car.

I can handle most medical emergencies; Set a broken bone (twice!); Perform the Heimlich manuver (17 times!), Reverse hypothermia (only twice), and Perform hands-only CPR (trained each year).

I can butcher a hog; Carve a turkey; Use a sewing machine; Put out a fire (Navy DC&FF training); Ferment wine at home (cranberry and pear wines); Remove bloodstains; Grow my own food (animal & vegetable); Read an electric meter; Dig and construct a footing and foundation; Solder wire and components; Run cables; Hang drywall; Cut, split, and stack firewood; Replace a faucet washer and plumb a house; Mix and pour concrete; Mix and Paint; Prune bushes and small trees; Launder and Iron my own clothes; Fix a toilet tank flapper; Change a single-pole switch; Replace a broken windowpane and lost shingles; Change a diaper; Grill with charcoal, wood, or gas; Sew a button on a shirt; and Fold a flag.

I know the medically correct ways to Treat frostbite; Treat a burn; Help a seizure victim; Treat a snakebite; and Remove a tick

I can Shine my own shoes; Make a drum-tight bed; and Drop and give the perfect pushup.

I have Run rapids in a canoe; Hung food in the wild; Skippered a boat (a military motor launch); Climbed several cliff faces; Build a fire and a shelter in the wilderness using only stone tools; and Found potable water in Death Valley.

I've survived Floods, Tornados, Extremes of cold and heat, and have been close enough to a lightning strike to receive fistr- and second-degree burns.

I can Cast a line; Change a tire; Throw a spiral; Fly a stunt kite and an RC helicopter; Drive a stick shift (tractors, construction vehicles, military Humvees & APVCs); Parallel park; Tie a bowline (and about a dozen other knots); Tie a necktie (bow and straight); Whittle a whistle or a decoy; and Ride a bike.

I can Build personal desktop computers and set up the software; Take the portraits with film and CCD cameras; Calibrate HDTV settings; Produce a documentary; and recover data from a hard drive.

I can operate Drill drivers; Grease guns; Coolant hydrometers; Socket wrenches; Test lights; Analog and Digital multimeters; Oscilloscopes; Data and Spectrum analyzers; Brick trowels and break sets; Framing hammers; Wood chisels; Spade bits; Circular and Jig saws; Axes, hatchetts, sledge hammers and mauls; Hacksaws; Torque wrenches; Air wrenches; Infrared thermometers; Sphygmomanometers; Sand blasters; Crosscut saws; Hand planes; and Feeler gauges.

Now, what does any fo this have to do with change? Simple: every skill and experience involved a major change from being an arrogant, egotistical, emotistical, judgmental, self-centered, hypocritical jerk into a self-reliant adult in charge of a research lab that develops smart transportation systems.

I have evolved beyond the need to insist that everything be done my way, to the point where people come to me with their needs to know how to do things. Instead of me imposing my ideas upon others, they come to me and ask for my ideas.

The fact that they also pay for my ideas keeps me employed and in demand. This is because I not only have opinions and ideas, but I have both the education and the experience to back up those ideas.


Wrong again. You are projecting your own flaws and fears upon myself and others.


Evidence, Please?


I'm too busy making something of myself. Try it sometime.

I'm sorry, but I laughed, really hard.

And then you wouldn't like me because I only own one fire agate and it's tiny. I wanted it for my birthstone since opal sort of sucks, and agates are cool.

I like Star Opals. I have a cabachon-cut black star opal set into a pinky ring. The star is obvious, even in dim barroom lighting, and whenever some girl commented on it, I just asked her leading questions about rings, jewelry, relationships, children, houses, and committment, and then let them draw their own conclusions. Not once did I say that I was willing to commit to them, but they somehow seemed to assume that I was the committment type.

thanks but i didnt write it. and its not a poem, there lyrics to a slayer song

girls on WP: "and we are tired of guys whining about how girls are not liking them"

Me, I done learned to do a bunch of different stuff too, but it ain't got me nothing and don't nobody think I'm smart.

Ain't no value in this post. I just thought it would be fun to tell Fnord that I'm a skeptic due to a lack of reproducible evidence.

cool stone, but you need moar gem quality

opals much like diamonds are overhyped. shure there pretty, but they lose there color overtime. fire agates stay beautiful forever!

Fnord, some of the things you wrote sounded pretty harsh.

Like when you said, "Confidence, optimism, and generosity will always capture a woman's attention," to which Moros responded, "Falsity, again personal experience and observation," to which you then responded, "Solipsism; again, judging by your experiences as the only valid experiences to be had is likely the cause of your solitude." What Moros wanted to do here was invalidate a universal claim that something will always work, and you can do that with a single counterexample borrowed from your own experience.

Remarks like, "Get over yourself," can be hurtful and really don't have a clear meaning as to exactly what you want the other person to do.

You called him an 'emotistical' jerk. I think prejudice against 'emos' is something that characterizes our contemporary culture in the same way prejudice against blacks did in the past. 'Emo' means 'emotional.' We all have emotions. I, for one, don't hate the emo clique.

You told Richard, "You have to go where the women are, and not just sit on your butt in front of your computer, posting rants about your sorry condition." But just because you do something online doesn't mean that's the only thing you do!

Ditch the anger? Easier said than done! You might have to get rid of what's making you angry first.

Your accomplishments sound impressive. I just wanted to shield some people from the hurt of your insults.

The insensitive order to "stop whining" locks people into the torment of their own private suffering, and that is a very dangerous thing.

Do any other men ever get the feeling that women are... bullying them? To see a beautiful lady in front of me and not be allowed to be affectionate with her... it creates this pain. It's similar to the pain of being choked.

Dude, it's Fnord. Just the name he picked should give you some indication as to his temperament.

i have pretty thick skin so nobodys comments in the topic botherd me

Glad to hear that. I've gotten overwhelmed before answering five insults at a time.

Anyway, I don't understand why we have to feel pain when women don't like us.

Don't you see what you're doing to us, here?

So call a waaaaambulance.


Every man I've known who was successful with the ladies, and every woman I've known who had a mature idea of what a man should be cited those three qualities. Most also cited good hygeine, an agreeable disposition, responsibility, and some form of artistic talent.


It means to stop being egotistical.


Being Emotistical is all about setting one's own emotional state as the highest determinant in all relationships and transactions. It is, by nature, an irrational practice which does not seek resolution, but instead seeks affirmation of one's emotional state. In other words, it's more important for an ill emotist to feel good about dying than it is to seek a cure.


But while a person is posting online, they are not socializing in a real-world context. This leads to being unable to relate to others in anything other than a sterile textual post.


No ... you detatch yourself from the anger first, and then deal with the situation in an analytical fashion. Situations approached in the heat of anger tend to be made worse, while situations approached with cool reason tend to be resolved more effectively and efficiently, and without causing more problems. It's like trying to remove a hangnail with a roaring chainsaw when a pair of nippers will do the job more quickly, cleanly, and quietly.


Truth hurts. I've learned to deal with it in order to overcome my "disabilities" and succeed in life.

Life is harsh, life is cruel, and if a person never learns how to deal with it, then they'll wallow in their emotions for the rest of their lives without ever coming within sight of their full potential.